are you racist?

[Saifullah]

Our people are to blame for many of the things happening to them....in 'khyber pukhtunkhwa' if punjab pays certain people money they would also kill anybody and sell out

[Nokia_Apridy]

parsiwaan bro, no need to get emotional. I hate the enemies of Afghanistan as much as you do but ordinary pakistani citizens have nothing to do what their government does.

They are a victim of the government as much as Afghans are, all they care about is money. They will kill their own people for money so why would they care for Afghans?

@Nokia bro

why do you bring in farsiwans into this discussion? Which pashtunistan did they destroy? When you talk nonesense like that then ofcourse you deserve the response parsiwaan gave you.

pashtuns have been the ruler of Afghanistan for 300 years, how can you blame farsiwans for our misfortunes? when did farsiwans come to pashtun areas and play with their namos as the pak army is doing now?

1:Tima Mara mata su su zala kanzlay oshay

khu walay serf PUKHTU da para ......

Saba KHUDAY pak ta ba khudalay sham chay

ma da Khpal TABAR ta da para sa Zagmley wu.......

2: ao Pak Army pa 1930 ka PAK army khu nama hem na wa ?..

3:Ao dryam da chay sta rogh post da para

Yu matal..........

CHAY K____I ya hem krey bya ta Waham Lambwalu...

Manam.......

khu kala da KUCHYANU khunu na awa Pukhtana waka chay

staso zmakay shway ?....

[IamDZJ]

1:Tima Mara mata su su zala kanzlay oshay

khu walay serf PUKHTU da para ......

Saba KHUDAY pak ta ba khudalay sham chay

ma da Khpal TABAR ta da para sa Zagmley wu.......

2: ao Pak Army pa 1930 ka PAK army khu nama hem na wa ?..

3:Ao dryam da chay sta rogh post da para

Yu matal..........

CHAY K____I ya hem krey bya ta Waham Lambwalu...

Manam.......

khu kala da KUCHYANU khunu na awa Pukhtana waka chay

staso zmakay shway ?.... __________________

taa ta kanzali bal sok kho na kawe yawaze za kawom.
ka pakhto ta ma ghukhtal chi kanzali okam no pukhatana dalta deer de. zma bal cha sara gharaz nashta.
asal sarray asal we aow kamasal kamasal. kamasaltob ta oki aow bia khabara pa pukhto warawey.
ta makhamakh kom dasey pukhton makh ki "parsiwan"nano ta pa khkata nazar wogora chi khola darbandi mat ki aow pa khabara d lag poi ki. computer shata har sok har sa wailey shey.

[IamDZJ]

shlombay and sher khan
based on the posts you have made in the following thread you are both racist hypocrites for claiming otherwise.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/religion-15/cant-friends-christians-jews-4043/index2.html

[parsiwaan]

Nick Khaana.. thank you for your insightful response

I have asked you a few times to please elaborate on the term 'Tajik' that is used by Afghans to refer to.. well.. people who do not belong to any other ethnicity like Pashtun or Hazara or Uzbak ya Baloch as opposed to the term 'Tajik' that is used for a citizen of Tajikistan, or someone who is from there.
The 'Tajiks' I and most Afghan refer to are those people who from an ethnic viewpoint are not part of any of the other ethnicities. For example, if you go to Qandahar, everyone there speaks Pashto. There are Iranians, Sikhs, and ethnic non-pashtnuns who speak Pashto.. As it was mentioned earlier, the mere ability to speak Pashto.. or the fact that one speaks it as a mother tongue doesn't make one a Pashtun because "Pashtun" doesn't refer to a linguistic group only. Farsizubaan does, as far as I know.

Half of my family are non-Pashtuns. Call them Tajiks, Farsizubans, whatever.. but the term Farsizuban is not accurate for them because they are not farsi- zubaan people; they do not speak Farsi, the only language they know is Pashto. But the Pashtun society is patriarchal, the mere ability to speak Pashto doesn't make them Pashtun by ethnicity. That doesn't mean that they don't have a Pashtun mentality or a pashtun mindset.. they spent generations in Qandahar, living amongst Pashtuns. Unless you point it out, nobody will be able to tell the difference between them and "actual" Pashtuns.

Which is precisely my point. The questions I asked and the rather incoherent reasoning I made were a response to the "I am racist against Farsizubaans" comment that was quoted earlier, in hopes of making a point. (which I obviously failed at lol)


Personally.. I'm not going to deny half of my identity just because it is being discriminated against. Half of my family is part of that group that was referred to by "Parsiwaans".. and I merely wanted to point out that its not a dualist world and there are Pashtuns who speak Dari and nonPAshtuns who speak Pashto etc

In Persian literature the word Tajik is used interchangeable with that of Persian....until force conversion of Persian of Iran into Shaism by Saffavid Turk...there were no need to distinguish one from another. Over all Tajiks do not organize themselves by tribes and refer to themselves by the region, province, city, town, or village they are from; such as Badakhshani, Baghlani, Mazari, Panjsheri, Kabuli, Herati...so keeping the invasion record of our region in mind...a lot of people come, settle in these cities and towns but with passage of time were all dissolved into Tajiks culture…this is actually the strength of Tajik culture…over years they were able to dissolved Turks, Arabs, Greece…for over 100 of years Turks rule the region…but today you can hardly find Turkic people except Uzbak and Turkman whom are actually descendent of Mongols…Hazara today speak Dari as first language. so are the Turks of Iran.. descendent of Saffavid, Qajaried and… total dissolving into Tajik/Persian culture and identity.
Pashtons too MUST realize that they are not a racial group…they are simply a cultural group..who ever that practice pashton culture and speak Pashto language is a Pashton…and those that don’t are not. This is why I do not consider myself pashton even both of my parents are pashtons by blood…simply because I do not related to pashton ppl… I do not speak their language…among them I feel like a 6th finger. : ) hahah

[parsiwaan]

parsiwaan is gud u admitted it coz many ppl dont even though they are rascist....i dont like certain qualities which exists in some 'ethnicities' in general....but when i meet a person i dont judge him straight away and stereo-type him...but after gettin to know him if he has those qualities then i wud dislike him, if he doesnt then i have no problem wid him wherever he is from...

parsiwaan u ever think that in your people, your race there might be people who are filthy or ugly or zalim or criminal??? If u say no then you must be delusional

Saifullah,
There are good and bad people in every race...but we are speaking generally...i hate it when these pakis try to play the Islam card...here in state pakis are the most religious of all...you will see them wearing Afghan cloth and going to Masjid...but if you try to know them...they are the most unethical and corrupt in whole world.

[parsiwaan]

Like i dont wanna name races, some races are well known for certain things and most of the time its not stereo-types but actually the majority of people from that race, who give themselves that image.....but that doesnt justify rascism, coz rascism is against everybody from that race, even if they are good....i wud be more close to a pakistani who holds the same views as me, same principals and follows islam...more than my own pashtun who goes to night clubs all day, who drinks and who has left his culture/religion...

What does leaving cultural or religion has to do with ethics? You are mixing up stuff... let me tell you something...from my experience those that talk about Islam 24/7 are the most unethical people in whole world....i don't know if you been back home or not.. but if you go and see how people talk about islam and then go kill, steal, rape. One of our family friend is Afghan Hindu.. they live in Kartiparwaan Kabul...when these Jahadi animals got Kabul...they went looted their home...when they ask those people why you are doing...they said your Hindu and looting your home is not sinful. I have more respect for those that go to club and drink..but do not harm ppl or do ppl wrong then those that pray 24/7 but then do nasty stuff.

[Dukhtar-e-Kabul]

Parsiwaan generalization is also wrong.

[AnGaaR]

Nick.

Afghans do not mean Pashtun. Afghan was a word given by Iranians to people who live in that geographical area. Pashtuns are Pashtuns.


Tajiks are Tajiks. together they are Afghans.

wait
source?
where did u get this info?
we afghans dono about it.. how come u know?
can u gime the full proof of what u said?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Nick.

Afghans do not mean Pashtun. Afghan was a word given by Iranians to people who live in that geographical area. Pashtuns are Pashtuns.


Tajiks are Tajiks. together they are Afghans.

Ye what a genius lolzz. Khushaal Baba called Afghan nang the nang of somebody. Khudae ao Qur'an tha ogoraa nur zamung khalk ma zaleel kawaa. Quite frankly you switch so many sides it is beyond comprehension. I can list and bring all your posts and it will be as if it was by 30 different people. At least be honest.

[Master Khan]

I am not racist I just hates everybody equally

[ijaz yousafzai]

What is the definition of being a " racist"?

[Master Khan]

A racist is someone who hates a group of people because of their skin colour or ethic

[Feroza_Banu]

na shukur i don't think i have that problem.

I am not racist because i don't believe a race exists. we are all part of a human race and none of us can deny that. I respect every human being and I believe this is taught to me by my religion! I believe in fighting for the opressed, for the one facing injustice... may it be pashtoon or anyone else.

Having said that, i want to point out that i love my country and its people. I am against anyone who is out there to destroy my country. I love every person in afghanistan, Pashtoon, uzbak, hazara, tajik, sikh, hindu, pashayee, nuristani, or whatever else. They are part of my beloved country and adding to its beauty. how can i hate something that is there to add to the beauty of my love!...

EVERYONE who works against my country is my enemy, every pashtoon of pashoonkhwa who has joined forces with ISI of pakistan to destroy my country is my enemy. every pashtoon of afghanistan who has harmed my country is my enemy. every panjabi who supports destruction of my country is my enemy (even ordinary citizens)... ever tajik, uzbak, hazara that supports the destruction of my country is my enemy. I am not racist... but i do have enemies... and they come from every corner of the world... including afghanistan!

[ijaz yousafzai]

A racist is someone who hates a group of people because of their skin colour or ethic

Well, that's it and it is surely a negative persuit but I asked this question because many here confuse it with " nationalism", which is a positive mindset