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  • Shaheed Hakimullah Mehsud on Pakistani scholars

    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

  • #2
    Those who blame Pakistani Taliban to be agents and tools of ISI and CIA should listen to this video carefully. Taliban are not the agents of any one. They are not playing directly in the hands of any one. Others may take advantage of the movement to destroy Pashtuns or Pakistan but Taliban is an ideological movement. They have their arguments, their reasons, their proofs, their evidence and their inspiration.

    He tries to prove that his movement is Jihad against the infidel system of Pakistan. He considers leaders like Qazi Hussain as infidel and friend of infidels. He calls him secular. If the scholars are infidels then the rest of Pakistanis and government officials are worse infidels and thus jihad of Taliban against these infidels.

    He quotes verses of Quran relating to Chritians and Jews for Shiites and thus 15 % population of Pakistan direct infidels and thus jihad.

    Taliban are violent extremists, violent Salafi wahabi movement and may be taken in that context. They are stooges of any body.

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    • #3
      Indeed jamaatis are secular criminals. They are your brothers in faith.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #4
        he is good in inventing new ahadis.

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        • #5
          shamla do you believe this guy is muslim? he is denouncing all the prophets openly.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by afghan View Post
            shamla do you believe this guy is muslim? he is denouncing all the prophets openly.
            He appears to refer to their "daur" being khatham or their era being over.... and talks about Muhammad (s)'s message superseding theirs. That's all I heard - no apparent insults, just that musa and isa's daur is over etc
            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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            • #7
              He is just trolling as usual.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                He appears to refer to their "daur" being khatham or their era being over.... and talks about Muhammad (s)'s message superseding theirs. That's all I heard - no apparent insults, just that musa and isa's daur is over etc
                he is referring to the jihad daub since mullas aren't talking about jihad anymore. he clearly says that the teachings of all the prophets in the pasts aren't valid. watch it again.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                  Those who blame Pakistani Taliban to be agents and tools of ISI and CIA should listen to this video carefully. Taliban are not the agents of any one. They are not playing directly in the hands of any one. Others may take advantage of the movement to destroy Pashtuns or Pakistan but Taliban is an ideological movement. They have their arguments, their reasons, their proofs, their evidence and their inspiration.

                  He tries to prove that his movement is Jihad against the infidel system of Pakistan. He considers leaders like Qazi Hussain as infidel and friend of infidels. He calls him secular. If the scholars are infidels then the rest of Pakistanis and government officials are worse infidels and thus jihad of Taliban against these infidels.

                  He quotes verses of Quran relating to Chritians and Jews for Shiites and thus 15 % population of Pakistan direct infidels and thus jihad.

                  Taliban are violent extremists, violent Salafi wahabi movement and may be taken in that context. They are stooges of any body.
                  stop playing an ignorant you are much smarter to say such stupid things.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by afghan View Post
                    he is referring to the jihad daub since mullas aren't talking about jihad anymore. he clearly says that the teachings of all the prophets in the pasts aren't valid. watch it again.
                    I listened to it again and its too long to transliterate but the part starts off with musa, nuh, Ibrahim etc and their daur being over. Then he repeats some of the Prophets names and says "ay huzuur the makhshaay ambiyaa daur meh khataam ko" Then he goes on to say a part where he says "Da Ibrahim alaay salaam sara QAUM muqbala" And then he goes further and talks about the Prophet completing the kitaab.

                    Sounds like he is referring to the verse or prophecy in Islam in which Muhammad (S) is told his people would supercede all the previous nations in numbers etc.

                    Earlier he gives the Taif example somewhere if I remember correctly and refers to Muhammad (S) as Rahamatul alaameen.

                    Not making any excuses for him as I know little about H Mahsud or the TTP, just found it an interesting piece of primary evidence.
                    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                      I listened to it again and its too long to transliterate but the part starts off with musa, nuh, Ibrahim etc and their daur being over. Then he repeats some of the Prophets names and says "ay huzuur the makhshaay ambiyaa daur meh khataam ko" Then he goes on to say a part where he says "Da Ibrahim alaay salaam sara QAUM muqbala" And then he goes further and talks about the Prophet completing the kitaab.

                      Sounds like he is referring to the verse or prophecy in Islam in which Muhammad (S) is told his people would supercede all the previous nations in numbers etc.

                      Earlier he gives the Taif example somewhere if I remember correctly and refers to Muhammad (S) as Rahamatul alaameen.

                      Not making any excuses for him as I know little about H Mahsud or the TTP, just found it an interesting piece of primary evidence.
                      he refers to ahadis and verses from the quran, twisting all into his benefits. but the same time contradicting himself. calling prophet muhammad rahmatullilalamin who prayed for his enemies the kuffars and mushrekeen. but the same times he wants the mullas to encourage the people to fight.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by afghan View Post
                        stop playing an ignorant you are much smarter to say such stupid things.
                        Badlun is a Pakistani National pretending he is Afghan that's why he's trying hard to pass the narrative that Taliban have no connection to Pakistani ISI.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                          Badlun is a Pakistani National pretending he is Afghan that's why he's trying hard to pass the narrative that Taliban have no connection to Pakistani ISI.
                          the paki government and ISI dont deny the facts that they are related. badlun is like shamla living in dark , they see and hear what they wanna see and hear.
                          Last edited by afghan; 11-03-2013, 09:52 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                            He is just trolling as usual.
                            yeh trolling when your heroe is lieing and contadicting himself. doesnt have enough brain to stick to his story, twisting the verses of the quran typical paki.

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                            • #15
                              i think.. its good that basterd (hakimullah masud) died.. he was on american payroll anyways.. when he wanted to negotiate with pakistan. he was taken out.. so that Americans can raise another hierarchy that is more acceptabel to them, stretch the war even further and have a bargaining chip .. Pakistan should never negotiate with these talibans.. because clearly they are fighting a proxy war on behalf of americans and many others.. so its good that there wont be any peace between pakistan and talibans because these talibans have killed Sunnis, shias, christans and eveyone else in the name of religion.. they are deranged.. might as well cleanse of the earth from this **** i.e. Pakistani Taliban. Pakistani taliban will never keep their word.. the idea is not to give them respite or breathing space wherein they can regroup.. keep hitting them. I believe most Pakistani Taliban don’t even know who is paying them.. they believe Allah is just inspiring people to give them “free lunches”
                              What really drives me hazy is it me or are the others crazy

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