Redrawing new provinces in Pakistan

[Pukhtoon]

If we stop the supply of food your entire nation will die cus of hunger.
Lets close the chaman and torkham crossing and see.
Punjabis would be happy but it is us not accepting duraniline

lol then do it, I didn't know you were the Khan of KPK and the President of Pakistan lol I'm sure the Pakistani establishment is at the beck and whim of Pakistani Pashtoons like you, who love Afghanistan so much and don't accept the border lol Afghan Pashtoons are the ones who don't accept the border, people like you already are gone, you've lost your mind, brainwashed completely.

[Pukhtoon]

Rora, have you been in Kabul or have you relatives who could tell you more about the civil war in Kabul? I am with you with 99% of your statement but with this part which reflects pure ignorance and illusion I do not agree. The civil war in Kabul was about power between Farsiwans, Uzbeks, Pashtuns and Hazara brothers. Hekmtayar was supported by Pakistan to control Kabul and other factions were supported by Iran and Russia. Kabul was destroyed but the main battles were led in Pashtun regions. Blood-sucker Hekmatyar´s rockets never reached their targets. Hekmatyar, Dostum, Massoud and Mazari all of them fought on Pashtun soil and Pashtun graves. 90% of those 80 000 killed innocent civilians were Pashtuns. Makaroyan 3 was taken by Mazari and Massoud and alot of crimes happened on Pashtuns. Before telling us your false version of history in your personal battle against Gadoonwal which Pashtun side is better you should inform yourself who the victims were. Mazari was commiting genocide on Pashtuns. Dostum was commiting genocide on Pashtuns. Massoud was commiting genocide on Pashtuns and even Kharuti Hekmatyar was commiting genocide and plundering on Pashtuns. Who burned chilsitun and chaharasiab? Surely not Pashtun civilians.

watch this video. Do you know those dancing women are Pashtuns from Mazar and Faryab and some from Kabul district 9? Just BS you claim

I'm not your wrorah, real Afghans know what really happened and who Pashtoons are in Afghanistan, what our history in Afghanistan is and was, and what was yours. We all know whose customs these things are, you can't change that by lying on a few forums. Puh dwa guttah limar ne putaygee.

[Bost Bastan News]

look here. these blood-sucking Russian atheist and wodka drinking charsi is threatening Pashtuns of Faryab with raping, looting and killing. So i don´t know where you take your information from

Humble Abdul Rashid Dostum with humiliated captured Pashtun Taliban fighters - YouTube

inshallah he will burn in hell after election. inshallah

[gadoonwal]

I say the same to you, an actual Pashtoon would never post as you did, you were cocky that Pashtoons bully Punjabis lol What Pashtoon brags about that? You tried to mock 1 million Afghans who died fighting Russia, our widows, and orphans, who died and live under harsh circumstances with ghairat and nang, they were ready for Qurbaani, that is a Pashtoon, something I can't say for you. You are 110% Punjabi - an insult to their race to have someone like you included with them.

If you say your Pashtoon I challenge you to respond line by line through the bulleted list I provided and tell me its not all true and tell me how, if its all true, Pakistani Pashtoons and Pashto have more status in Pakistan then Afghanistan.

Your post is also garbage as you didn't respond to my post, again. When I ruin your argument, you ignore it just like you always do.



If were Farsibaan because Karzai attended a Persian summit, then you are Punjabi because Pashtoons attend Punjabi summits. So incredibly childish in your reasoning.



It's a lie that they teach Pashto in all secondary schools. While in some they do as I mentioned its not all grades and its only a recent thing. Every Pakistani Pashtoon I know asks me to write in Urdu not Pashto because they can't read it. The mere fact that you use Afghan Pashtoons as a measuring stick for quality Pashto education shows its lack of status in Pakistan. Further, as to school, they certainly don't teach Pashto in Karachi, Islamabad, Lahore, and even when they do in KPK it was after so many years of fighting, so whose in charge, you or them?



Okay so, Urdu is absolutely imposed on you, Pashto not a national language, all government documents not in Pashto, national anthem in Urdu, so by your logic, your even worse then us, so what does that make you?

You then said our majority turned minority, so then since your forever a minority, how bad does that make you? You keep insulting yourself and don't even realize it.

You keep talking about the current government, DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN INSTALLED REGIME AND A SIZEABLE CHUNK OF THE PASHTOON POPULATION DOES NOT SUPPORT THE GOVERNMENT OR SUPPORTS THE INSURGENCY? That being the case, of course there not as represented in government and even then your numbers are off. Further, since Farsibaans invited foreign troops to Afghanistan of course they will have more say in the government created by the foreigners. DO YOU NOT THEN UNDERSTAND WHY THOSE FIGURES YOUR USING ARE NOT ACCURATE TO SHOW PASHTOON INFLUENCE IN GOVERNMENT? ARE YOU THAT DENSE AND SLOW?



Farsibaans also cry for the right of Farsi language, so what? Does that mean it doesn't have influence then? And what about Urdu? That's another Desi language, what about its place compared to Pashto? lol Urdu is your national language, is Pashto even a national language in Pakistan?



Afghans call you the puss kuhrray khalig, something you learned from your adopted bretheren, and?



Where are all these Pashto speaking Punjabis coming from? There shop owners and business owners and best friends with you Pashtoons. Just read this forum, you act like your all enemies, they live with you and work with you in KPK, your full of it.



Just complete and utter garbage, seriously? This is what you come up with? You just make things up.



lol tell that to the guys in the video. You know your one of the poorest areas in the world right? You make it out like its Dubai and you don't even control what little wealth you have, it all goes to Islamabad so why are you talking about wealth?

So now i have to prove my pashtunyath to the farsiban of kabul who first run to my land and gain green passport escaped to the west.
Now the same parsiban insulting his savier and teaching him pashtunyath o my god.
You are writing your self created history.
Why would farsiban cry for his language when the entire papulation of afghanistan speak and write parsi?
The whole of afghan media is dominated by persains.
The real pashtun in afghanistan are called ,,dumdar,spagan and saikun.
They also call you paki.
There are many jokes and words we use for kabulis but cus of a fake pashtun i am not going to insult fellow pashtuns.

We never attend punjabi summet.There is no punjabi country in the name of punjab.You on the other side attended the persain summet.Your country is member of persain nation.Your country name is in farsi even what els you want.
Like once wali khan said ,,,pashtana da tol pakistan badmashan dey,,,
we speak our language in punjab and in sind ,no one opposed it.
While you on the other side can,nt speak your langauge in your capital
Just check youtube how much parsiban hate you.How they make fun of you.How they insulted ahmad shah baba and mirwais hotak.
On our side many pashtana leaders are traiters and they are not honest with pashtuns.Punjabis did,nt forced them to do corruption.
The ordinary punjabis are living very poor life and they got nothing to do with these issues.
Pashtuns are in every department serving.They help their fellow pashtuns.
Your claim punjabis own stores in pashtunkhwa is big joke.They do,nt even like coming here.
On the other side their markets are dominated by pashtuns.Pakistan is fedration of many nations.
Pashtuns are highly respected by ordinary punjabis.
kabulyaans are called ,,boyaans,,here.Your love is only for money nothing els.
Lets not cross that line cus i have many things to say but i am stopped for the sake of good pashtu speakers.
The man who raped thousands of pashtanay dostum khan is in allaince with ashraf ghani a pashtun, for next election.If ghani become the leader dostum will be his deputy shame ,,,,,,,,
what kind of pashtun country it is when mula omar and other pashtuns are hiding in caves while the rape master dostum is enjoying free life.
Can you arrest dostum,atta,faheem khan and other masters.
Man get a life the entire pashtuns will be forced back to torkham.
dostum and fahim etc are the real criminals same as talibs but talibs can,nt come out cus they are pashtuns.


Come and see our hospitals northwest ,rahman,sherpao and lrh etc in peshwar etc full of kabulis farsibans and other afghanis coming everyday from afghanistan.You do,nt even have hospitals for treatment and crossing torkham everyday to make our hospital more over crowded.
So,my point is if we are bad and your enemy then why you are runing to us for everything.We never asked you to come to our hospitals etc.
Well a gherati and nar pashtun will go to his enemy for shelter,food etc.
Lets fence the border then and see who will suffer then.
If we are pakistanis and your enemy then fencing the border is the best way to stop you.
Whoever cross the duraniline must be shooted in his head then.
Many of the real afghan-pashtana are well settled in pashtunkhwa and got paki id card.They are bigging for paki id card.Mahmood khan lala in queta helped many kabulis with paki id card.....cherta de staaso afghanyath aw pashtu.

[gadoonwal]

look here. these blood-sucking Russian atheist and wodka drinking charsi is threatening Pashtuns of Faryab with raping, looting and killing. So i don´t know where you take your information from

Humble Abdul Rashid Dostum with humiliated captured Pashtun Taliban fighters - YouTube

inshallah he will burn in hell after election. inshallah

he himslef is not pashtun.
For him raping pashtanay is not a problem.

[gadoonwal]

Do you know that Farsiwans came even to Kandahar with support of some allied Pashtuns and burned Kandahar as well, a Pashtun soil????? What are you talking????? My grand-father lost his own house and got killed.

ismail khan at one stage was going to occupy the whole of southwestren afghanistan including kandaar.
pukhtoon khan sb have no problem if they do so

[gadoonwal]

wallah our blood gose out with our pashtu speaking pashtuns brothers.
The day will come when pashtun of all side united and kick these parsibans,uzbiks along with their slaves like pukhtoon aka farsiwnas back to their country.
Even if someone post a rape video of pashtana, brainwashed fake pukhtoon will not accepted.He is fake.
all of the above lar bar pashtun unity is the answer to send back uzbiks and tajik back to their countries of origin alon with their dogs.

[Bost Bastan News]

he himslef is not pashtun.
For him raping pashtanay is not a problem.

But this satanic inbreed IS a half Pashtun and out of his 4 wifes two are from the Faryab´s local Pashtun community

[Bost Bastan News]

wallah our blood gose out with our pashtu speaking pashtuns brothers.
The day will come when pashtun of all side united and kick these parsibans,uzbiks along with their slaves like pukhtoon aka farsiwnas back to their country.
Even if someone post a rape video of pashtana, brainwashed fake pukhtoon will not accepted.He is fake.
all of the above lar bar pashtun unity is the answer to send back uzbiks and tajik back to their countries of origin alon with their dogs.

Afghanistan, Pakistan and other stans were drawn to devide the people and weaken them (Devide and Rule). Tajiks, Pashtuns and Uzbeks all are natives.

[Pukhtoon]

So now i have to prove my pashtunyath to the farsiban of kabul who first run to my land and gain green passport escaped to the west.
Now the same parsiban insulting his savier and teaching him pashtunyath o my god.
You are writing your self created history.
Why would farsiban cry for his language when the entire papulation of afghanistan speak and write parsi?
The whole of afghan media is dominated by persains.
The real pashtun in afghanistan are called ,,dumdar,spagan and saikun.
They also call you paki.
There are many jokes and words we use for kabulis but cus of a fake pashtun i am not going to insult fellow pashtuns.

We never attend punjabi summet.There is no punjabi country in the name of punjab.You on the other side attended the persain summet.Your country is member of persain nation.Your country name is in farsi even what els you want.
Like once wali khan said ,,,pashtana da tol pakistan badmashan dey,,,
we speak our language in punjab and in sind ,no one opposed it.
While you on the other side can,nt speak your langauge in your capital
Just check youtube how much parsiban hate you.How they make fun of you.How they insulted ahmad shah baba and mirwais hotak.
On our side many pashtana leaders are traiters and they are not honest with pashtuns.Punjabis did,nt forced them to do corruption.
The ordinary punjabis are living very poor life and they got nothing to do with these issues.
Pashtuns are in every department serving.They help their fellow pashtuns.
Your claim punjabis own stores in pashtunkhwa is big joke.They do,nt even like coming here.
On the other side their markets are dominated by pashtuns.Pakistan is fedration of many nations.
Pashtuns are highly respected by ordinary punjabis.
kabulyaans are called ,,boyaans,,here.Your love is only for money nothing els.
Lets not cross that line cus i have many things to say but i am stopped for the sake of good pashtu speakers.
The man who raped thousands of pashtanay dostum khan is in allaince with ashraf ghani a pashtun, for next election.If ghani become the leader dostum will be his deputy shame ,,,,,,,,
what kind of pashtun country it is when mula omar and other pashtuns are hiding in caves while the rape master dostum is enjoying free life.
Can you arrest dostum,atta,faheem khan and other masters.
Man get a life the entire pashtuns will be forced back to torkham.
dostum and fahim etc are the real criminals same as talibs but talibs can,nt come out cus they are pashtuns.


Come and see our hospitals northwest ,rahman,sherpao and lrh etc in peshwar etc full of kabulis farsibans and other afghanis coming everyday from afghanistan.You do,nt even have hospitals for treatment and crossing torkham everyday to make our hospital more over crowded.
So,my point is if we are bad and your enemy then why you are runing to us for everything.We never asked you to come to our hospitals etc.
Well a gherati and nar pashtun will go to his enemy for shelter,food etc.
Lets fence the border then and see who will suffer then.
If we are pakistanis and your enemy then fencing the border is the best way to stop you.
Whoever cross the duraniline must be shooted in his head then.
Many of the real afghan-pashtana are well settled in pashtunkhwa and got paki id card.They are bigging for paki id card.Mahmood khan lala in queta helped many kabulis with paki id card.....cherta de staaso afghanyath aw pashtu.

This is the last time I will post because you keep lying, lying, and lying. Only people like you are the enemy of Pashtoons, not all. Everything I posted was retaliatory, just clearing up your unprovoked lies - you have so many issues on your side of the border and because of some personal inferiority complex, decide to lie about Afghan Pashtoons.

Biya taw te waiyum, te wayee chee sar day loots dah wakht chee koon day lots dah. Worry about your own bigger problems before you try to shed light on anothers relatively smaller issues.

Some baynamoos Pashtoon hater puts a random video and says dawoosee about Pashtoons and you chak chak. What kind of Pashtoon are you, if your actually Pashtoon, our blood goes back to the same blood, and you chak chak for someone insulting your own kind? An argument within a family, no matter what the substance, stays within the family, but you chak chak for a non-Pashtoon as against your own? And you claim to be Pashtoon and care about yawalay? I have too much ghairat to talk about a Muslim women the way you have, let alone about another Pashtana, so I will not respond in kind. Kho dua kawom chee Khoday sta khaburree puh tanday day wahillay.

I had written a very long post in response, but I'm not going to blanketly insult Pashtoons from Pakistan, if I did previously, my apologies to others who may be reading, I did not mean them generally.

To you, again I pray Insha'Allah, for every baw ghairat, nangyawlay, every yateem, widow, refugee who died and scarified their family to fight a war nobody else was man enough to fight, that every insult you express or privately harbor comes back to you aw Khoday puh tanday day wahillay.

The only reason I even posted a thing on this thread was because of this comment:

Quote:
Originally Posted by gadoonwal
Pashtunkhwa produce enough wheat to feed its paeople.Many dealers smuggled wheat from pashtunkhwa to afghanistan in the past and that was the real reason of shortage.
We have very good land but if we separate pashtunkhwa from you then you will use ,,lalteen,,,forever.There will be no power for you to run your industries.We will cut the supply of water to punjab and your province will become desert.You are also using our gas produced in karak.
Pashtunkhwa is rich land.We produced some of the best fruit in the region .You will lose in that case not us.Pashtunkhwa will servive without punjab wheat but you would,nt.

blah blah blah lol.


vast majority of pakistani pathans will shoot for saying dumb **** like this.

The fact that you didn't post anything to the contrary and instead posted what you have proves this persons point.

[Kushan Prince]

Afghanistan, Pakistan and other stans were drawn to devide the people and weaken them (Devide and Rule). Tajiks, Pashtuns and Uzbeks all are natives.

That's what they want you to believe lol.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

wallah our blood gose out with our pashtu speaking pashtuns brothers.
The day will come when pashtun of all side united and kick these parsibans,uzbiks along with their slaves like pukhtoon aka farsiwnas back to their country.
Even if someone post a rape video of pashtana, brainwashed fake pukhtoon will not accepted.He is fake.
all of the above lar bar pashtun unity is the answer to send back uzbiks and tajik back to their countries of origin alon with their dogs.

The difference between Afghanistan and Pakistan is simple:

Whatever constitutes Afghanistan today are the remnants of the land Ahmed Shah Baba's Pashtun army conquered. That includes the traditionally Uzbek and Turkmen areas of northern Afghanistan.

The Pashtun part of Pakistan, however, is different. In fact, it's story is the opposite. It's the land the Pashtuns lost to the Sikhs and the British after internal infighting weakened Afghanistan.

So instead of alienating the Persian-speaking minority of Afghanistan and causing Afghanistan's further disintegration, we should focus on the unity of Peshawar's and Quetta's Pashtuns with Kabul's and Kandahar's.

Also, Pashto in Afghanistan is much, much stronger than it is in Pashtunkhwa, Sindh and Punjab. Listen to any broadcast from Kabul and compare it with one from Peshawar. The Kabul broadcast will use purely Pashto words while the Peshawar broadcast will be 25% Urdu.

[Bost Bastan News]

That's what they want you to believe lol.

and what is your believe?

[Bost Bastan News]

The difference between Afghanistan and Pakistan is simple:

Whatever constitutes Afghanistan today are the remnants of the land Ahmed Shah Baba's Pashtun army conquered. That includes the traditionally Uzbek and Turkmen areas of northern Afghanistan.

The Pashtun part of Pakistan, however, is different. In fact, it's story is the opposite. It's the land the Pashtuns lost to the Sikhs and the British after internal infighting weakened Afghanistan.

So instead of alienating the Persian-speaking minority of Afghanistan and causing Afghanistan's further disintegration, we should focus on the unity of Peshawar's and Quetta's Pashtuns with Kabul's and Kandahar's.

Also, Pashto in Afghanistan is much, much stronger than it is in Pashtunkhwa, Sindh and Punjab. Listen to any broadcast from Kabul and compare it with one from Peshawar. The Kabul broadcast will use purely Pashto words while the Peshawar broadcast will be 25% Urdu.

Ahmad Shah Baba´s army was consisting of many tribes, even Kurds and Georgians. His army was in fact the same army Nader Khan Afsharai had. He did not qonquered northern Afghanistan or northern neighbours. Turkmenistan for example joined him. Those territories accepted and voted for Shah Baba as their new king. The first democratic process ever in the world.

[Kushan Prince]

and what is your believe?

That pashtuns are native to Afghanistan.