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  • #76
    Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
    I just read that ashraf ghani named dostum as his vp lol
    I heard that too. Now i am defiantly not supporting Ghani, but i heard dostum dropped out?
    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

    -Old Pashtun proverb




    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
      I heard that too. Now i am defiantly not supporting Ghani, but i heard dostum dropped out?

      he is supposedly the leader of his party but in the last year i read that there were disagreements within the party, i don't know if it was between him and sayyafs 2nd vp but all is not well in uzbek land. things are moving fast, ismail khan had always been close to abdullahs coalition but joined sayyaf and dostum was just until a week ago close to abdullah but was apparently not pleased with the coalition and has jumped ship. ashraf ghani just seems desperate, he will get more uzbek votes than pashtun votes.
      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

      Sayyid Qutb

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
        Do you have some information who was his real father?
        His real father was a poor man from Panjshir.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Badlun View Post
          He resigned from parliament so he was part of democracy , doing the shirk so this is not conversion just going deeper into democracy for a higher level post.
          Indeed Sayyaf did commit shirk.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
            Abdullahs real father died and his mother was married to guy in Kabul who claimed to be Barakzai. Abdullah is 100% panjsheri.
            Abdullah Abdullah´s father was a Kandahari Dehqan from Farsiwan branch whose was the son of a Pashtun mother (Tokhi, probably of Kuchi descendt) and a Dehqan father. His father was a Darbari working for Zahir Shah Baba. Abdullah´s mother is from Panjshir of Hisa Duwumi district and belongs to an old aristocratic Pashtun family of the region belonging to Tarzi remnant. Oemar Tarzi, currently living in Turkey, is related with Abdullah Abdullah and somehow Abdullah is related with Afghan writer Khaled Husseini but don´t ask me how and why. I don´t know it. Abdullah is many times using this card to announce himself as a Pashtun. His mother didn´t married to anyone when her husband died. Abdullah Abdullah´s sister is married to Afghan writer Fahim Dashty, another guy from Panjshir. The claim his father was a poor guy can be answered with the fact that he worked in the Darbar and was a wealthy man. I don´t know why someone need to lie who call himself an angle and democracy and nationalists and freedom as shirk ... double-standard, I guess.
            Last edited by Bost Bastan News; 10-05-2013, 06:01 PM.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Badlun View Post
              Do you have some information who was his real father?
              his father was called Ghulam Muhayyuddin Khan.

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              • #82
                Abdullah Abdullah is talking https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...MdLT7rRR4#t=59 from the 13s minute he is talking in Pashto.

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                • #83
                  The following candidates are listed in the chronological order of their registration:

                  1- Bismillah Sher
                  First vice president, Abdul Karim Ahmadyar
                  Second vice president, Sultan Hamid Sultani

                  2- Dr. Abdullah Abdullah
                  First vice president, Mohammad Khan
                  Second vice president, Mohammad Mohaqiq

                  3- Fazl Karim Najmi
                  First vice president, Mohammad Sabir Takmeen
                  Second vice president, Susan Hajati

                  4- Abdul Rabb Rasul Sayyaf
                  First vice president, Mohammad Ismail Khan
                  Second vice president, Abdul Wahab Urfan

                  5- Hashmat Ghani Ahmadzai
                  First vice president, Abdullah Bromand
                  Second vice president, Abed Nazar

                  6- Qutbuddin Hilal
                  First vice president, Enayatullah Enayat
                  Second vice president, Mohammad Ali Nabizada

                  7- Abdul Rahim Wardak
                  First vice president, Shah Abdul Ahad Afzali
                  Second vice president, Sayed Hussian Anwari

                  8- Del Agha Kohdamani
                  First vice president, Zalmai Hamraz
                  Second vice president, Toorpakai Azizi

                  9- Sayed Ishaq Gailani
                  First vice president, Zakaria Noori
                  Second vice president, Seema Ismati

                  10- Sarwar Ahmadzai
                  First vice president, Abdul Rahman
                  Second vice president, Kabir Quraishi

                  11- Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai
                  First vice president, Gen. Abdul Rashid Dostum
                  Second vice president, Sarwar Danish

                  12- Dr. Zalmai Rasoul
                  First vice president, Ahmad Zia Massoud
                  Second vice president, Habiba Surabi

                  13- Sardar Muhammad Nadir Naeem
                  First vice president, Taj Mohammad Akbar
                  Second vice president, Azizullah Puya

                  14- Hamidullah Qaderi
                  First vice president, Mohammad Arif Baraki
                  Second vice president, Humaira Haqmal

                  15- Daoud Sultanzoy
                  First vice president, Ahmad Saeedi
                  Second vice president, Kazima Mohaqiq

                  16- Qayum Karzai
                  First vice president, Wahidullah Shahrani
                  Second vice president, Ibrahim Qasmi

                  17- Gul Agha Sherzai
                  First vice president, Sayed Hussain Alimi Balkhi
                  Second vice president, Mohammad Hashim Zarea

                  18- Azizullah Ludin
                  First vice president, Abdul Rahim Karimi
                  Second vice president, Hamidullah Rahimi

                  19- Anwar-ul-Haq Ahadi
                  First vice president, Hashmatullah Mujadidi
                  Second vice president, Ismail Qasimyar

                  20- Hedayat Amin Arsala
                  First vice president, Gen. Khudaidad
                  Second vice president, Safia Seddiqi

                  21- Salman Ali Doostzadeh
                  First vice president, Mohammad Yousuf Amin
                  Second vice president, Aziza Rahban Wardak

                  22- Farooq Azam
                  First vice president, Abdul Ghani Asalati
                  Second vice president, Ahmad Shah Payeezi

                  23- Khadija Ghaznawi
                  First vice president, Mohammad Qasim Fayezai
                  Second vice president, Khair Mohammad Barez

                  24- Nadir Shah Ahmadzai
                  First vice president, Faiz Mohammad Daqiq
                  Second vice president, Qadam Ali Khadim

                  25- Abdul Hadi Dabeer
                  First vice president, Sayed Ahmadullah Padshah
                  Second vice president, Mawlawi Nesar Ahmad Khair Andish

                  26- Noor Rahman Liwal
                  First vice president, Ahamad Jan Nazar
                  Second vice president, Rafiullah

                  27- Dr. Dawar Nadin
                  First vice president, Mohammad Hassan Safi
                  Second vice president, Husai Andar
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #84
                    As there are many new names ,can some one please identify who are Pashto speaking Pashtun candidates for presidency and vice presidency?

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                    • #85
                      Anyone that rocks the lungai like a true Pashtun and is Pashtun, is getting my vote lol.
                      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                      -Old Pashtun proverb




                      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                        Anyone that rocks the lungai like a true Pashtun and is Pashtun, is getting my vote lol.
                        Even if his vice president is a mass murderer of Pashtuns?
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                        • #87
                          Ashraf Ghani and his brother are competitors of each other.
                          Originally posted by Firdousi
                          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                          • #88
                            Initial Election Polling Reveals Three Favorites
                            News - Afghanistan
                            Written by Parwiz Shamal**
                            Sunday, 13 October 2013 19:29


                            ATR-Consulting and TOLOnews surveyed the residents of Afghanistan's 34 provinces about nominees registered for the spring Presidential election. The survey, after the Independent Election Commission's (IEC) official registration process concluded, revealed that the majority of respondents who had a preference listed Dr. Abdullah Abdullah as their top choice.

                            More than 1,300 Afghan citizens responded to the random phone survey of the 34 provinces over the four day period of October 8 to October 12. Seventy-five percent of the participants were from urban areas and women formed 41 percent of the respondents.

                            All those who participated in the survey answered one simple question: "Who do you think is the best candidate, among all the candidates for the Presidency?"

                            Half of those interviewed claimed that there is no "best" candidate, or they did not know who it was if there was one. This half of the sample broke down as 38 percent not knowing, and 12 percent claiming there is no top candidate.

                            Of those who did provide a preference, 21 percent said Dr. Abdullah Abdullah is the "best" candidate. The survey results indicate that most of Abdullah's supporters are women and youth, especially those from urban areas.

                            Dr. Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai came in second with support from 13.6 percent of preference respondents and Qayoom Karzai came in third with 5.7 percent.

                            Dr. Ghani saw most of his favor coming from men from urban areas, and a regional breakdown of the results suggests his alliance with Gen. Abdul Rashid Dostum, who is ethnically Uzbek, has served him well in the north and northeastern parts of Afghanistan. Twenty percent of Dr. Ghani's supporters were from north and north eastern provinces.

                            These results represent a shift from the last election in 2009 in which a survey pegged Dr. Ghani at fourth place with less than one percent of his supporters coming from northern parts of Afghanistan.

                            Qayoom Karzai, placed third, received most of his support from village youth, and predominantly men.

                            Meanwhile, Abdul Rab Rasool Sayyaf fell the forth position with 3.4 percent of respondents naming him as the "best" candidate. Sayyaf's supporters were largely from villages and he received the lowest amount of support from women amongst the top four candidates.

                            Gul Agha Sherzai was in fifth position, receiving 1.1 percent of respondent's preference. His supporters were mostly men.

                            Zalmai Rasool was next with 0.9 percent. His supporter came largely from urban areas with a large portion being women. He is the only popular nominee who has a female Vice Presidential nominee on his ticket.

                            Gen Abdul Rahim Wardak landed in seventh place in the survey with 0.8 percent of respondents' support. Those who preferred him were mostly men from both cities and villages.

                            Of Kabul respondents alone, 24 percent selected Dr. Abdullah, 16 percent Dr. Ghani, three percent Karzai, three percent Sayyaf, one percent Rasool and one percent Wardak. But 36 percent of Kabul residents who participated in the survey did not know and 16 percent said there is no good candidate.

                            In the central provinces, 30 percent selected Dr. Abdullah, nine percent Dr. Ghani, five percent Sayyaf, one percent Karzai, one percent Rasool, one percent Wardak and one percent Sherzai. Thirty-nine percent said they don't know and 13 percent said there is no good candidate.

                            In northern Afghanistan, Dr. Abdullah received 26 percent of respondents' support, Dr. Ghani 23 percent, Karzai five percent, Sayyaf two percent, Sherzai two percent and Rasool and Wardak each one percent. Eight percent said there is no good candidate and thirty-two percent said they don't know.

                            In western Afghanistan, Dr. Abdullah received 27 percent, Dr. Ghani eight percent, Karzai two percent, Sayyaf seven percent and then Sherzai, Wardak and Rasool with one percent each. Fourteen percent of respondents in the West said there was no good candidate and 39 percent said they don't know.

                            In southern Afghanistan, Dr. Abdullah received 21 percent of supporters, Dr. Ghani five percent, Karzai 15 percent, Sayyaf one percent, Sherzai six percent, Rasool two percent and Wardak two percent. Thirty-five percent said they don't know and 13 percent said there was no good candidate.

                            In eastern Afghanistan, Dr. Ghani saw 29 percent, Karzai 22 percent, Dr. Abdullah seven percent, Wardak and Sayyaf with two percent each and Sherzai one percent. Twenty-eight percent said they don't know and nine percent no good candidate.

                            Thirteen other Presidential candidates registered for the elections in April were selected by less than 0.5 percent and seven more did not have any favor amongst the respondents.

                            TOLOnews and ATR are likely to do more joint surveys of the Afghan electorate before the April 5 election day.

                            The preliminary list of eligible Presidential candidates is scheduled to be released by the IEC on October 19, and the final list on November 16.

                            Last Updated on Monday, 14 October 2013 10:35

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                            • #89
                              The survey almost certainly is bias. Never trust Tolo/Tolo news. But what is perhaps interesting is to note Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah x 2 as the top contesters however.
                              Our friend Bost Bastan would be disappointed knowing his preferred candidate is lagging far behind.

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                              • #90
                                Can anyone share region wise population density data. If Ashraf Ghani has more percentage in a more densely populated area then he may outnumber his rival where the rival has more percentage.

                                For me both Abullah and Ghani are good candidates. I know Ghani personally and he is not bad. His alliance with Dostum will help him as evident from the survey to garb votes from non Pashtuns.

                                What about the stature of Ghanis's second VP Mr. Sarwar Danish?

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