Conditions,demand and supposing them

[randolph85]

lol @ pakistan being tolerant of shias. yeah...lets just forget about those bi weekly slaughters.

[Kushan Prince]

well,i beg to differ

Pakistan has repeatedly attacked india and has scored too much kill against them.yes we cannot focus on them with full throttle now because of the internal problems.though last month we killed 5 of them.in january we killed and than beheaded a couple of them.
we are offensive each and everytime..


i hope and i am sure in 2015-16 indo pak war will happen even though conventional but the war will be possibly between the civilian pakistanis and the armed indian army.

i am not out of my mind.well you may not but the non pashtun afghan now are tired of the extremism being spread by pashtuns in afghanistan.they control more than 60% of afghanistan by land.and more strategic location.

i am sure you must have hear this from them but you wont admit this.they even have created pages in facebook for a seperate country from afghan pashtun.in the map they have given very small part of afghnistan to afghan pashtuns

The people that talk about partition of Afghanistan are nothing more then the internet tajiks and uzbeks with big egos. No one in Afghanistan has ever called for a partition, not even various crime lords or the NA. Not even in their khob will Afghanistan ever be partitioned, now regarding Pakistan you have to know that country is itself on a verge of a second partition. Why? well lets see, the ISI is forcing anyone non punjabi to speak urdu, Pashtuns and balochis are being bombared with bombs in KPK and Godar. The country is on the verge of colapsation and even its citizens know it. I knew this one Pakistani girl who would go around clamming she was Mexican or "Indian." Hell she even tried to fool people into thinking she was Afghan. I know I went a bit of topic here but that proves modern day pakis are ashamed of their identity and i am not surprised why.

Pakistan is even hated by its citizens,its hellbent on collapsation my friend.

[Tiger Khan]

[Tiger Khan]

Lol .. leave Bannu alone.. Well Brother Bannu.. Afghanistan should never be divided as Pashtuns makeup a majority over their anyways. What Afghanistan’s Pashtuns have to do is to get their act together. Also to Afghanistan’s Pashtuns be realistic here and stop kidding yourself. All the ethnic minorities in Afghanistan have joined together (with the help of foreign invaders) against Pashtuns. Pashtuns are under represented in Government, Army, even Pashto language is being discouraged at all levels. Stop blaming all your problems on Pakistan and get your house in order. If Pakistan used and abused you, you allowed that to be happened to you. In the same way Pakistan is being used and abused by foreigners. Now I have read something about which country is better i.e. Afghanistan or Pakistan. First of all both are beggars and dependent of foreign aid, but reluctantly I will ask what are the main exports of Afghanistan? Who has better infrastructure? What is the main industry of Afghanistan? What is the literacy rate of Afghanistan? .. so come on and be realistic. Stop ganging up on one person. Pakistan aint a very shining example either.. but still. As far as killing of shias and other minorities are concerned I have to agree that Pakistan’s problem is much worse. Pakistan has a bad habit of picking up fights that were never there.

The reality (in my opinion) is that Pashtuns on both side of the borders are suffering. They both need to get educated, develop and know their rights. Problem with Pakistan is that Punjabis neither value their own culture nor anyone else’s cultures. Most pakistanies take the borders and official language (Urdu) of Pakistan as a decree of Allah, hence, they believe that this cannot be deviated from. Pashtuns in all the regions of Paksitan should vote for introduction of Pashto as medium of instruction in schools. Understand that stronger pashtuns in Afghanistan means stronger pashtuns in Pakistan and vice versa.

I have always wondered why didn’t pashtuns make it.. they are smart, hardworking, honest. But then when you look at it Pashtuns are very bad followers (Har souk plaar Da “everyone is a father”), hence, they do not have a collective voice.. We do not think we are right we know we are right

[Tiger Khan]

Yes alot of Ethnic Tajik, Hazara and Uzbeks demand seperate country for themselves.. Now you can deny it and bury your heads in the sand.. but the idea is out there.. They intend on Naming it khurasan..

[Tiger Khan]

Western Afghanistan Map (please comment)

Please share your comments on the map of Western Afghanistan.. especially if you are from there.. also state whether you agree with the numbers...

[Tiger Khan]

[QUOTE=Da Bannu Mazdigar;705049]Lashkar jhaghvi has only killed your fellow shia in quetta even though i dont support the killing of someone.but they were your people or your daddy since you people are 80% shia by culture and 100% by language


No i am not.but i dont term taliban as pashtuns.they are not pashtun..terrorists are not pashtun.innocent and unarmed people murderer in mass are not pashtun.though they can be shia influenced like you guys


Punjabi cant be our masters as unlike kabuli we are karlani pashtun.Dont confuse us with the kabuli aka the afghan pashtuns


Majority of the pakistani pashtuns are karlani.such as wazir,mahsud,afridi,orakzai,banusi,dawar,khattak.
Karlani are said to be the most superior of all pashtun.even superior to the so called father of pashtuns Aka Qaid abdur rashid the Great.as studies suggest that the karlani pashtuns are even older than him and there is a possibility of him being the descendent of us Karlani pashtuns.




Grow up kid.we have 40-50millions shia in Pakistan.unlike afghanistan our society by majority is more tolerant than afghan can ever think of..may be not even in 3013.Pakistan is becoming the hub of world pashtuns with having more than 80% world pashtun in our country and now even the afghan pashtuns has already got citizenship of Pakistan.Balochistan is the new home to afghan refugees.with analyst suggesting that as soon as the USA leave civil war in afghanistan will happen and million of refugees will opt for balochistan.

Leaving only 4-5millions pashtuns in afghanistan while the left uzbek/tajik like you can than rule afghanistan



please prove me wrong.Pashto is spoken by more in Pakistan than urdu.
ofcourse the Punjabi wont speak pashto for us..
55% of Pakistan populaton is punjabi and they have there own language

you would do so because afghan entertainment industry is now all about shia farsi.

i know a tajik like you must be happy about this.but we the pashtuns of pakistan will never leave you to capture our pashtunistan.we willl comeoneday and capture our land back again from dirty tajiks

Pakistani army has not won many wars against india or anyone else.. but we will always value pakistan more than india. Karlnari, Gurghusht, sarban, lodhi (Bannchi) etc are all the same.. and no one is better than the other.. Shai population in paksitan in not more than 15 million. In KPK only turi and 50% of Bangash are shia, Gilget Baltistan's total population is 2 million ( So if shia claim 100% shia their which is incorrect even than that is not much). In baluchistan only Hazara (around 50000) and few Zehris in the south are Shias. We can count 5 million in Sind and 5 million in punjab, so do the maths now.. British did census before 1947 and the census done by pakistani govt. in 1998 both showed 3% as being shia. Now i dont hear of many sunnies converting to shiaism, while i know alot of shias leaving pakistan. So it is safe to say that the census data would still stand. I can name districts in pakistan that has a majority shia populations (which shows there are very few districts with shia majority).

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Actually, aside from Lashkar Jangvi, the rest of Pakistan is pretty much supportive of Shias. In fact, Bhutto and her man, Zardari are Shias. Likewise many prominent Shias are generals in Napak fauj.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

I am talking about the United States, not India.

Pakistan the Islamic super power (LOL) is attacked weekly by drones and doesn't even lift a finger in response. This is how pathetic Pakistan is.

You are comparing a couple hundred facebook trolls from Europe to over 15 million Afghan non Pashtuns. There is no such movement in Afghanistan and there never has been, people in Afghanistan do not talk about partition and it is not on anyone's agenda. This is not like Pakistan were every ethnic group has a large portion of people who want out of the tragic comedy called "Pakistan," and are not afraid of making their voices heard.

As i earlier stated.responsible are our past and present leaders.

other than this thanks to ISI.hundred of Coalition forces troops are killed because of ISI funding and supplying and masterminding youth against the coalition forces in afghanistan.

ISI is a bitch agency.and they never leave a revenge.

My friend they are not in small number.but as they say seeing is believing.once the coalition forces leave Afghanistan.majority of them.and civil war start.than you will know whether your own Non pashtun afghan support you guys or we the pakistani pashtuns.

trusting a farsi speaker non pashtun afghanistan is the worst someone can do.or anyone who speak farsi or shia language

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

The people that talk about partition of Afghanistan are nothing more then the internet tajiks and uzbeks with big egos. No one in Afghanistan has ever called for a partition, not even various crime lords or the NA. Not even in their khob will Afghanistan ever be partitioned, now regarding Pakistan you have to know that country is itself on a verge of a second partition. Why? well lets see, the ISI is forcing anyone non punjabi to speak urdu, Pashtuns and balochis are being bombared with bombs in KPK and Godar. The country is on the verge of colapsation and even its citizens know it. I knew this one Pakistani girl who would go around clamming she was Mexican or "Indian." Hell she even tried to fool people into thinking she was Afghan. I know I went a bit of topic here but that proves modern day pakis are ashamed of their identity and i am not surprised why.

Pakistan is even hated by its citizens,its hellbent on collapsation my friend.

lol talking without source

http://www.iranreview.org/content/Documents/Review-of-a-British-Plan-for-Afghanistan-Will-Afghanistan-Disintegrate-.htm

Pakistani pashtuns dont want a seperate country and you very well know this.
Baloch.except BLA and there supporter who want to get seperated?

Bangladesh case was different.
bangladesh was thousand miles away from Pakistan.
surrounded by india from all side.
only 1 squadron of PAF was based in bangladesh
our soldier strength in East Pakistan was only 99thousand surrounded by atleast 10 times bigger army india.

Indian navy had placed a complete blockade of Bangladesh.
We were in a civil war.
Population of bangladesh was more than present Pakistan.all of them were against pakistan as we were into a civil war.


they got seperated because they themselves wanted to do so.otherwise it was impossible even if our troops strength was 10 thousand.but they themselves wanted so..Becuase of some of our ******* generals

Balochistan population is 8millions of them 45% are pashtuns now.
around 40-45% are baloch and the rest are bruhie people/makrani people

hence they are less than 4million in all.now many of them had migrated to karachi.
How the hell can one think the balochistan pashtun will allow them a seperate country.
of the 4million baloch.more than 99.9% are patriotic.the remaining few has joined BLA.



About the funny last part

why would a Pakistani identify himself as a afghan?when today they are not even allowed into pakistan because of terrorist activities...

If Pakistan was terrorist.than USA and 42 more countries would have not bombed you to stone age but us.

Being a Pakistani.from A pakistani country is more better than from a country where not even 1% land has water and they cant even manufacture needle let alone some heavy industy.


Pakistan is more than 60% trade partner of afghanistan.we only import fruit from afghanistan while they everything.

[Tiger Khan]

As i earlier stated.responsible are our past and present leaders.

other than this thanks to ISI.hundred of Coalition forces troops are killed because of ISI funding and supplying and masterminding youth against the coalition forces in afghanistan.

ISI is a bitch agency.and they never leave a revenge.

My friend they are not in small number.but as they say seeing is believing.once the coalition forces leave Afghanistan.majority of them.and civil war start.than you will know whether your own Non pashtun afghan support you guys or we the pakistani pashtuns.

trusting a farsi speaker non pashtun afghanistan is the worst someone can do.or anyone who speak farsi or shia language

Well, yes i agree that Tajiks are not pro-pashtuns. And similarly Punjabies are not pro-pashtuns. But obviuosly, Pakistani Pashtuns would be more comfortable with punjabies, while Afghans/pashtuns in Afghanistan would be comfortable with Tajiks. As soon as americans leave Afghanistan Tajiks wont be talked about much, Tajik are just like a ballon inflated by Americans.. Claiminig them to be around 32% of the population of Afghanistan??!!! which is ridiculus. Tajiks (Combined with Kazalbash, Farsiwans, Aimak) do not make more than 20% of the population of Afghanistan, while Hazara are not more than 7%. Herat province for example has some Farsiwan but no Tajik, same goes for Badghais, but westerners have clubed them all togather with Tajiks and have exagerated there numbers in demographic data. Now we all know Wardak, Badghais and Ghazni we know that pashtun makes the majority there yet, they are claiming otherwise.
See pashtuns in the north and west were forcefully settled by kings of afghanistan. BUt they were settled in river fed areas due to which even today in alot of areas of the west and north pashtuns live in densly populated areas. THerefore, the population in the north and west is more than what is stated by the westerners. MUrghab RIvir, Kunduz River etc. are rivers to be considered. If you look at ethnic maps of afghanistan they will show how central afghanistan is entirely Hazara, while everyone shuld know that that area is barely inhabitable. same goes for badkshan and alot of afghnistan bordering Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. Tajik claim to be a majority in Badghais when we know that they are not the indegenous group of badgahs even tajiks agree that the four districts that are river fed are almost exclusivly pashtun. Murghab, Ghormach, Muqur and Jawand

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Yes alot of Ethnic Tajik, Hazara and Uzbeks demand seperate country for themselves.. Now you can deny it and bury your heads in the sand.. but the idea is out there.. They intend on Naming it khurasan..

A distinguished Afghan journalist and author, an authority on the Taliban, Mr. Musa Khan Jalalzai, in his recent book (Civil War and the Partition of Afghanistan) reports that a strong movement for autonomy and self-rule by the non-Pashtun tribes of northern and central Afghanistan is gathering strength. In Pakistan's Daily Times he wrote: "This irresponsible method of governance (during the Taliban regime) empowered the voices of those politically alienated ethnic groups who finally demanded the division of Afghanistan along ethnic lines.

Read more: http://outlookafghanistan.net/topics...#ixzz2f8zvlJng

this is the situation around in afghanistan my friend.

they dont want to admit this but even there master USA themselves would divide them when they leave.
they will create a civil war and divide them.

read the above link.
in Pakistan you can meet with tajik in peshawar usually in the peshwar university easily.i had met one in peshawar university in IR department though he later got admission in Gomal medical college.he had lived in pakistan majority of his life.he is an ex student of abbottabad public school and one of the three topper of abbottabad board in FSc.

all of them want a seperate land from pashtuns.
tajik has respects in the western neighbours of afghanistan.they have similar culture to the rest of central asian and persian.

they are peaceful people.they might not become super rich but they would atleast live in a peaceful country.

in facebook you can search pages with greater khorosan name with the admins making anti afghan posts in persian and english.
there is one other page which i had liked in the past.but left because of there very anti pashtuns comments.

the name of the page was something like this.we tajik,uzbek and hazara hate pashtuns.
they had also put a different flag over a map of afghanistan with khorasan name and divided.showing a very very smaller land for pashtuns.

though i used to abuse them each time.they thought i was some afghan pashtun :D

[Tiger Khan]

lol talking without source

http://www.iranreview.org/content/Documents/Review-of-a-British-Plan-for-Afghanistan-Will-Afghanistan-Disintegrate-.htm

Pakistani pashtuns dont want a seperate country and you very well know this.
Baloch.except BLA and there supporter who want to get seperated?

Bangladesh case was different.
bangladesh was thousand miles away from Pakistan.
surrounded by india from all side.
only 1 squadron of PAF was based in bangladesh
our soldier strength in East Pakistan was only 99thousand surrounded by atleast 10 times bigger army india.

Indian navy had placed a complete blockade of Bangladesh.
We were in a civil war.
Population of bangladesh was more than present Pakistan.all of them were against pakistan as we were into a civil war.


they got seperated because they themselves wanted to do so.otherwise it was impossible even if our troops strength was 10 thousand.but they themselves wanted so..Becuase of some of our ******* generals

Balochistan population is 8millions of them 45% are pashtuns now.
around 40-45% are baloch and the rest are bruhie people/makrani people

hence they are less than 4million in all.now many of them had migrated to karachi.
How the hell can one think the balochistan pashtun will allow them a seperate country.
of the 4million baloch.more than 99.9% are patriotic.the remaining few has joined BLA.



About the funny last part

why would a Pakistani identify himself as a afghan?when today they are not even allowed into pakistan because of terrorist activities...

If Pakistan was terrorist.than USA and 42 more countries would have not bombed you to stone age but us.

Being a Pakistani.from A pakistani country is more better than from a country where not even 1% land has water and they cant even manufacture needle let alone some heavy industy.


Pakistan is more than 60% trade partner of afghanistan.we only import fruit from afghanistan while they everything.

Well. Pakistani pashtun should be open to the idea of seperation.. remember this... Pakistan was cruel to Bangladeshies. Pakistan is dominated by punjabies.. If pashtun land gets divided, if pashto is not made official language in atleast pashtun areas.. pashtun should think about seperating..

[Tiger Khan]

Well. Pakistani pashtun should be open to the idea of seperation.. remember this... Pakistan was cruel to Bangladeshies. Pakistan is dominated by punjabies.. If pashtun land gets divided, if pashto is not made official language in atleast pashtun areas.. pashtun should think about seperating..

i am willing to learn as many langugaes as possible. But my language is not urdu, farsi or Hindko. it is pashto. I wouldnt teach my children anyother language but pashto first.. India has more than 17 official languages, why cannt pakistan have 5 or 6?

[Khostai]

I didn't know that this tread was on how great Pakistan is........
Reading Banus post, Pakistan is the best country in the world lol