Pakhtunkhwa province's Hazara region may secede

[Bengal_Tiger]

KP Assembly adopts resolution to create Hazara province

DAWN.COM

Opposition MPAs belonging to PPP, ANP and QWP opposed the resolution calling it a conspiracy to divide the province.



PESHAWAR: A resolution moved by the ruling Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) for creating a new Hazara province was adopted with majority vote by the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) Assembly, DawnNews reported on Friday.

Opposition MPAs belonging to Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), Awami National Party (ANP) and Qaumi Watan Party (QWP) opposed the resolution calling it a conspiracy to divide the province.

Earlier, session of the KP Assembly commenced with Speaker Asad Qaiser in the chair. Sardar Idrees of PTI tabled the resolution which was subsequently adopted by the house by majority vote.

The resolution read that the provincial assembly should request federal government to pass a bill for National Assembly for creation of new units including Hazara within the ambit of Constitution with the objective of easing administrative affairs.

Criticising the move by the ruling PTI, ANP’s Parliamentary leader Sardar Hussain Babak said Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was like a bouquet and his party opposes any attempt to divide it.

"Keeping in the view the difficulties being faced by the province, it’s time to talk about unity instead of disintegration."

He alleged that resolution is based on linguistic divide and aimed at political point scoring.

PPP MPA Nighat Orakzai also said the demand for dividing the province was not in line with the current circumstances.

PTI MPAs Mushtaq Khan, Wajiuz Zaman and Qalander Lodhi tried to dispel the impression that demand of Hazara province was based on dividing the province on the basis of linguistic identities. We just want to improve administrative set up as people of Hazara were facing a lot of problem in reaching to Peshawar, they said.

During the debate, the treasury which was supporting the resolution about Hazara province become divided and provincial ministers including Sirajul Haq of Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) and Shaukat Yousazai of PTI brought another resolution regarding renaming of province as “Hazara Khyber Pakthunkhwa.”

The resolution of renaming the province was also adopted by majority vote.

The house also adopted five more amendment bills including the one of that relating to local.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1094671/kp-assembly-adopts-resolution-to-create-hazara-province

1. For the Afghan nationalists here who want to annex Pakhtunkhwa in to an Afghan state, if the "Hazara" province is created then the borders between Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and "Hazara" would become international borders between "Loy Afghanistan" and Pakistan.


2. Many of the areas of the "Hazara" region are majority Pashtun but would be part of a "Hazara" province against their will.

Here is what one of the readers of the Dawn article above said:


Haripuri:

This Hazara province (coming from a Hazerawal) is a drama made by rich people who want more control of the wealth and power in their areas. It has nothing to do with ethnicity or identity; only some members of masses are gullible enough to believe that. Almost 70% of Hazara Divison can speak or understands Pakhto. Gohar Ayub, Baba Haider Zaman etc are opportunists looking to ride this trend for their own gains since they've become pretty much politically invalid. Only place it makes sense to have more provinces is Punjab because it is too big, heavily populated and the people in South Punjab need easier access to an administrative center.

Pashtuns had to wait 60 years just to rename their province.

Hazaras/Hindkos had to wait less than 60 months just to get a whole new province of their own.


This is while the far longer standing demands for a province for the mainly Pashtun areas of northern Balochistan are ignored.

Pakistan is indeed a "Punjabistan", where Punjabis rule and get what they want. The "Hazaras" speak Hindko, a variant of Punjabi.



Many people in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa have become "Pathans" (Punjabified "Pashtuns") and probably do not care, which is why they voted for Punjabi nationalist Imran Khan and his PTI.



Controversial Punjabi nationalist, Imran Khan. Khan has been widely criticized for what were seen as racist remarks against Mohajirs. He also uses the "Islamic card" for his political goals but in the picture above he can be clearly seen not praying properly (in accordance to the Hanafi jurispudence which Pakistanis follow).



Khan not praying correctly on another occassion. This is ironic given that Khan defends "Islamist" radicals in Bangladesh and works with them in Pakistan.




Khan is a supporter of the Jamaat e Islami terrorist organization in Bangladesh which committed war crimes in 1971, organized sex camps for Muslim Bengali women to be raped and voted for the now shameful resolution passed against Bangladesh by the Pakistani parliament earlier this year.

[hamid954]

hazara province is code name for hindkowan province -punjabi mixed pig race.

[gadoonwal]

ANP are a bunch of criminals. They are just using this to gain support after they lost shamelessly to PTI.

In fact, ANP threw the towel in the ring for Durrand ages ago.

When they are right then we should support them.

[gadoonwal]

Thanx Bengal tiger for your continue support and update.

Imran khan was brought into power for the division of pashtunkhwa,terrorism and kalabag dam.
Khar pakhtun act first and think later.
I met Asad kaiser before the election and requested him to pls block such resolution and be loyal to motherland pashtunkhwa but i realised that these people are control by islam abad that time.
Now if the punjabis and their loyal gulaman realy want to divide pashtunkhwa for few khindkyaans of hazara then all loyal sons of this land should call for the demolishing of durandline.Also the pashtun dominated areas of hazara should remain part of pakhtunkhwa.The pashtun country borders should be extend to margala height and islam abad.These areas are part of our country so as pashtun dominated areas of baluchistan.

There is total silence on the side of pmap and mamod khan wich i fully understand why.
Mamod khan formed an allaince with nawaz sharif and he is happey with his punjabi master.

[gadoonwal]

Those supporting hazara province should also move to hazara cus they are no longer pakhtuns if they support the division of pashtunkhwa.

Now hazara province was historically never been part of khindkyaans and indic people.
The khindko speakers are migrated there from kashmir and Potohar.
Hazara region was ruled by turks.The region was always owned by pakhtuns.
The first afghan tribe settled here was Lodhi pashtuns.During Lodhi rule on india many indains,khindkyaans and kasmiryaan,abasis settled here.
Many of them were brought like slaves.After lodhis other afghan tribes like swatis,mashwanis,tanolis,jaduns,tareen,yousufzais, tahirkhelis and sadozais settled here.
So pashtuns are the original people of this region.
The indains are migrated here.

[Kushan Prince]

This is very interesting. Chitral and kohistan have never actually been inhabited by pashtuns but by chitralis and kalasha people who are the native dardic people to these regions. I've always wondered myself why chitral is part of KPK, maybe pashtuns wanted more land? who knows but its not our land. I am full support of an independent hazara province but they cannot have Pekhawar as it is a historical pashtun city.

So las de premenza my hindokwan friends.

[gadoonwal]

This is very interesting. Chitral and kohistan have never actually been inhabited by pashtuns but by chitralis and kalasha people who are the native dardic people to these regions. I've always wondered myself why chitral is part of KPK, maybe pashtuns wanted more land? who knows but its not our land. I am full support of an independent hazara province but they cannot have Pekhawar as it is a historical pashtun city.

So las de premenza my hindokwan friends.

who are you to say this?
if you were pakhtun you would never support the division of pakhtunland.
They can bring more and more khinkyaans to our land so should we give up our land?
The chetralis are living in their land but chetral can not servive without pashtunkhwa.Geographically chetral is part of pashtunkhwa.
Now what you think if tajiks demanded to declare northren and westren afghanistan independent khurasan,will you support them?
Balkh,badakhshan,herat,samangan etc and even kabul never been part of pashtun land historically so if you are realy care for the rights of others will you support khuarsan ?.
parsibans teaching us o my god.
da kom wakht ta pathay sho.

[Kushan Prince]

who are you to say this?
if you were pakhtun you would never support the division of pakhtunland.
They can bring more and more khinkyaans to our land so should we give up our land?
The chetralis are living in their land but chetral can not servive without pashtunkhwa.Geographically chetral is part of pashtunkhwa.
Now what you think if tajiks demanded to declare northren and westren afghanistan independent khurasan,will you support them?
Balkh,badakhshan,herat,samangan etc and even kabul never been part of pashtun land historically so if you are realy care for the rights of others will you support khuarsan ?.
parsibans teaching us o my god.
da kom wakht ta pathay sho.

You are factually incorrect sir. A lot of ethnic groups claim legitimacy on the north like pashtuns, tajiks and uzbeks. In history uzbeks have always claimed the north to themselves because the area used to be historically called "Turkestan." In short it belongs to neither of them, its a multi-ethnic region and will remain so for hundreds of years to come.

Now on KPK, i hope you know pashtuns didn't even start migrating to there until the 9th century or so. KPK and hazara division have always been home to the dardic people.

Cheers!

[gadoonwal]

You are factually incorrect sir. A lot of ethnic groups claim legitimacy on the north like pashtuns, tajiks and uzbeks. In history uzbeks have always claimed the north to themselves because the area used to be historically called "Turkestan." In short it belongs to neither of them, its a multi-ethnic region and will remain so for hundreds of years to come.

Now on KPK, i hope you know pashtuns didn't even start migrating to there until the 9th century or so. KPK and hazara division have always been home to the dardic people.

Cheers!

ok,uzbiks and tajiks can claim on the north but pashtuns can not cus they are southreners.
They were brought into north during the pashtunization game played by the king of afghanistan.
Your migration to north start in the 20th century,.
Farah was never pashtun dominated area .The duranis and other pakhtuns migrate there so as herat.
If you check the history of pashtuns in the north and west and even east.
Laghman was never part of pashtun land.
There was a laghmani language and still some speak this language.
While tajiks also claim on gardez wich is full of tajiks.
Ghazni another tajik majority city.
While wardag was known as ,,maidan,,,,,,untill it was renamed.
The pashtuns are southrenrs go and read some books before post here.

[Kushan Prince]

ok,uzbiks and tajiks can claim on the north but pashtuns can not cus they are southreners.
They were brought into north during the pashtunization game played by the king of afghanistan.
Your migration to north start in the 20th century,.
Farah was never pashtun dominated area .The duranis and other pakhtuns migrate there so as herat.
If you check the history of pashtuns in the north and west and even east.
Laghman was never part of pashtun land.
There was a laghmani language and still some speak this language.
While tajiks also claim on gardez wich is full of tajiks.
Ghazni another tajik majority city.
While wardag was known as ,,maidan,,,,,,untill it was renamed.
The pashtuns are southrenrs go and read some books before post here.

You know you're really starting to on my nerves right? Hey lets just say Pashtuns were not native to afghanistan at all and are descendants of the 10 lost tribes of yahudistan!

Is that a satisfying theory? go read history.

[gadoonwal]

Gharghasht,Betan and sarbanis are migrated from the southrener pashtunkhwa.
By southrener pashtunkhwa mean zjob,kandar and the sulaiman mountain region.

[Kushan Prince]

Gharghasht,Betan and sarbanis are migrated from the southrener pashtunkhwa.
By southrener pashtunkhwa mean zjob,kandar and the sulaiman mountain region.

Ok champ whatever you say.

[gadoonwal]

You know you're really starting to on my nerves right? Hey lets just say Pashtuns were not native to afghanistan at all and are descendants of the 10 lost tribes of yahudistan!

Is that a satisfying theory? go read history.

Try to understand my point.
Do,nt be emotional and read carefully what i am saying.
If you find me wrong then pls confirm it with someone who have knowledge of history.
I can make you a claim on half of iran,tajikistan and so on but how will you justify your claim.
I post jews theory but that dose,nt mean i always agree with that.
Pashtuns are native to afghanistan but not to the whole of afghanistan.
Today every inch of afghanistan and pashtunkhwa is belong to pashtuns but history is history and you can not deny the truth.
Kabul was ruled by hindu shahi for centuries.Ranteel,zanteel etc were hindu and their language was not pashtu.
Later the the turk and persain occupied the kabulistan region.
While the pakhtuns are recent there.
When ibni batota visited afghanistan kabul was persain speaking region.
More and more pashtuns migrate to the north,west and kabul after ahmad shah baba created afghanistan.
For example people of kundus are migrated from south.They have their ancesters homes in south,south-east.
Many places like pashtun zargon in herat and pashtun-got in north were renamed.
We are thankfull to mahmad gul khan mamand for his great job.
You can confirm this with any knowledgable afghan historain not me.
I am always wrong for you.
My veiw is that we should send more and more pashtun to north to make it pashtunize.
I want the rise of pashtuns and hsitorical boundreis drawn by our elders to be fixed.
I will not support one inch of pashtun country to be taken from us .
I was just trying to tell you that most of us are southreners settled in north,west and east.

[gadoonwal]

Ok champ whatever you say.

no,pls prove it wrong and bring me ref i will delet it myself.

For example you claim to be musakhel and musakhel are southreners and belong to gharghasht like us.
Same as yousufzais and others of kunduz.
Kabul is another example where southreners mahmadzais,popalzais etc are setteld.

[Kushan Prince]

no,pls prove it wrong and bring me ref i will delet it myself.

For example you claim to be musakhel and musakhel are southreners and belong to gharghasht like us.
Same as yousufzais and others of kunduz.
Kabul is another example where southreners mahmadzais,popalzais etc are setteld.

Musakheel's originally come from Ghazni not the south, don't teach me about my tribe.