Is India in Afghanistan to help develop our economy or for there own interests?

[KhalsaWarrior]

Sardar jee , i belong to tarbela dam(worlds largest earthfilled dam) , strategically very important. In my life time they have caught 5 RAW agents here . Last time it was a 25 years old chick , was pretending to be a psycho . But later they traced her call and retrieved lots of data from her digital camera . Now she is chilling with ISI

Regards

Exactly, then why wasnt this incident presented to the world as proof of India's hand in Pakistan's affairs? And I think you are mature enough to understand that not everything that the government tells you is true. After all, werent there reports of uncircumsized bodies in FATA that were proclaimed as RAW agents? These were later found to be locals who didnt have access to proper medical help to perform circumscision.

And before you give me a count of RAW agents arrested, trawl through Indian news sites and you will find that an ISI agent is captured every week.

[KhalsaWarrior]

why isn' India feeding its own poor? How come millions of people are starving on the streets of any major city in India, and yet Hindus have found time and money to go around and support others?

If you are still using the equation, India=Hindus; I am sorry, you are still to learn a lot!

[شمله ور خراساني]

If you are still using the equation, India=Hindus; I am sorry, you are still to learn a lot!

Hindu is how we refer to people from the subcontinent. Sikh, Buddhist, or Vedist. We call you all Hindu. Because you are from Hindustan.

Anything beyond Hindus river is Hindu.

[KhalsaWarrior]

Hindu is how we refer to people from the subcontinent. Sikh, Buddhist, or Vedist. We call you all Hindu. Because you are from Hindustan.

Anything beyond Hindus river is Hindu.

So Indian Muslims are Hindus as well? They live in Hindustan.

[tor_khan]

The one thing we should all know is that whatever India's role is in Afghanistan, India isn't driven purely by a sense of selfless charity.

Very few are.

[شمله ور خراساني]

So Indian Muslims are Hindus as well? They live in Hindustan.

Yes. We describe Muslims from the sub-continent as Hindus. That does not mean they are not Muslims.

The problem is that Hindu & Hind are intermixed. Therefore, people assume that it is wrong to say Hindu. But it is not. In fact, the religion which is now known as Hinduism is actually not Hinduism. The name Hinduism is given to it by the British Colonists.

[KhalsaWarrior]

The one thing we should all know is that whatever India's role is in Afghanistan, India isn't driven purely by a sense of selfless charity.

Very few are.

Of course. Does anybody say otherwise?

Not that I can talk for Afghans, but they'd much rather have schools, roads and electricity rather than terror factories and Taliban, dont you think?

[KhalsaWarrior]

Yes. We describe Muslims from the sub-continent as Hindus. That does not mean they are not Muslims.

The problem is that Hindu & Hind are intermixed. Therefore, people assume that it is wrong to say Hindu. But it is not. In fact, the religion which is now known as Hinduism is actually not Hinduism. The name Hinduism is given to it by the British Colonists.

I am impressed by your knowledge Sangar. Your stock just went up in my eyes.

And to tell you what, Hindu right-wing nationalists like BJP, RSS, Shiv-Sena etc will agree with you as well.

However, in contemporary parlance, Hindu is more of a religious term than geographical or ethnic. So Hindu isn't a synonym for Indian anymore in India and the world in general. For the sake of political correctness and as an Indian myself I'd request you to address an Indian as how he'd like to be addressed. As an Indian.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

No.

Islam does not advacate hate. You are choosing to go down this road to throw the typical Western propaganda at me.

This is a clear case.

Pashtun nationalists side with non-Muslims, people who have expressed outward enimosity to Islam, Shariah and have persecuted Muslims.

Because Pashtun Nationalist expect to gain worldly matters by siding with the non-Muslims.

When you confront such people with facts from the Quran where the ayat of Quran clearly state that we are not allowed to ally ourselves with non-Muslims, people suddenly act as dramaqueens and shout extremism or even go as far as claiming Islam preaches hate.

This is the rhetoric designed to demonize Islam. Because we as Muslims suppose to derive knowledge from the Quran. And when such funamental issues in Islam are labeled as hatred, it is clear what the motive of such people is.

Nationalists want us to denounce Islam and become puppets and stooges of the crusaders.

Contradiction After Contradiction

Sangar again you made a fool of yourself

Nationalists can side with who ever they want just like how Your Sorta Muslims sided with Non Muslim nations such as Israel and America to attack and lure the Soviets into Afghanistan.

You are the biggest puppets of the crusaders since you brought Afghanistan to its current state and gave excuse to the non muslims to invade.

Sangar your mind is slowly melting into the realm of being a deluded person.

Kind Regards

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Most of the money Taliban makes is through Saud and Arab gulf states, now tell me, where do these arab states get their revenue from? thats right from the crusadors.

I am amazed at how a person like Sangar who is supposely studying political science can be this over whelming deluded on current events.

Take Taliban for example, not only do they molester young chilren after they get sent for suicide bombing missions but the whole suicide mission factories are made and would it benefit the future????

Take Lakki Market for example. When a coward Wahabi Suicide bomber went to a vollyball match and blew himself up and killed way over 100 innocent civilians.

Do you think this like of Arabised culture will benefit the pashtuns in the future.

The day Saudi Arab terrorist petrol runs out we will see how long these Talibs will last. Plus Pakistan hasnt got much time to go, and i doubt they will defend these trash from Afghanistan, where will taliban go and how will they function?

[شمله ور خراساني]

However, in contemporary parlance, Hindu is more of a religious term than geographical or ethnic.

in our parlance, Hindu = someone from the area beyond Hindus river.

In Afghanistan, traditional Pashtuns call Punjabi Pakistanis Hindus.

[KhalsaWarrior]

in our parlance, Hindu = someone from the area beyond Hindus river.

In Afghanistan, traditional Pashtuns call Punjabi Pakistanis Hindus.

I understand your parlance and respect it. Also as I said earlier its is historically and factually correct. But the fact is that Indians dont themselves call themselves as just Hindus, as the term Hindu now only carries a religious connotation and nothing more to people to whom its applied. So my humble request to you is to address the people as they want to be addressed or as they address themselves. Apart from that its your wish, nobody can bind you to call Hindus as Indians.

[شمله ور خراساني]

I understand your parlance and respect it. Also as I said earlier its is historically and factually correct. But the fact is that Indians dont themselves call themselves as just Hindus, as the term Hindu now only carries a religious connotation and nothing more to people to whom its applied. So my humble request to you is to address the people as they want to be addressed or as they address themselves. Apart from that its your wish, nobody can bind you to call Hindus as Indians.

sure. no problem

[KhalsaWarrior]

No offence to anyone to the Pakistanis out there how can you expect us to tell our largest regional donor to leave us alone?

they are building us schools and our parliament.

You know what Jasmine, I hear this very often in almost every global forum. All Pakistani symphatizers ask India to get the hell out of Afghanistan. As if its the Pakistanis who will decide who stays in Afghanistan or who doesn't.

[Nadir Shah]

The one thing we should all know is that whatever India's role is in Afghanistan, India isn't driven purely by a sense of selfless charity.

Very few are.

Malgariya, no one is under this delusion. We know what real politik is. But, since the partnership of Afghanistan with India is is beneficial to Afghanistan, we must use it to strengthen ourselves and weaken our enemies.