The Pashtunization of Pakistani Punjabis

[Tiger Khan]

That is quite the generalization.

Most Punjabis I know don't have any problems with Bangladeshi people. It's just this one puppet on this forum that is butt-hurt all the time.

If someone kicked his dog, he will come make a thread on this forum that the Punjabis did it.


And how can you say Punjabis are cowards? What strategy? Da fuq?

Case in point "Genius": Drone have been falling on FATA for ages now. Had this been punjab. Pakistani (Punjabi) would have jumped head long into war.
Punjabies dont have any any love for their language, we take urdu as an official language as if it was the world of God. Becuase of that every language and culture in the country has to suffer. India has more than 15 official language. All the western countries and america support minority language except punjab. They find their own language unworthy, and think it is a waste of time for everyone else.
Bangalies had just demands. Think about it. They were the laregst ethnic group, but punjabies and muhajirs didnot want to give them their rights subsequent to an election which clearly turned out in Bengalies favor. Wake up.

[Pakwatan]

Case in point "Genius": Drone have been falling on FATA for ages now. Had this been punjab. Pakistani (Punjabi) would have jumped head long into war.
Punjabies dont have any any love for their language, we take urdu as an official language as if it was the world of God. Becuase of that every language and culture in the country has to suffer. India has more than 15 official language. All the western countries and america support minority language except punjab. They find their own language unworthy, and think it is a waste of time for everyone else.
Bangalies had just demands. Think about it. They were the laregst ethnic group, but punjabies and muhajirs didnot want to give them their rights subsequent to an election which clearly turned out in Bengalies favor. Wake up.

Did you fail to read the thread?

Neither Ayub Khan nor Bhutto was Punjabi.

[Tiger Khan]

Did you fail to read the thread?

Neither Ayub Khan nor Bhutto was Punjabi.

Lol.. yes i had not read the thread .. i am sorry.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

I dont know whom to reply.there is one post worth replying.But after reading a few afghans comments about splitting of Pakistan and all the dreamy stuff.

If we take out history And Iqbal vision.Than the vision of iqbal or his dream of forming A new country for muslims never mentioned the Bangladesh or east Pakistan in the past.

Pakistanis are much much more socially better integrated than any other country in south asia.If we exclude the TTP factors and a couple of there sister orginazation.

We The pashtuns,Baloch,Punjabi and Sindhi stand united to defend our land.

Pakistan actually never was a part of India but rather merged with india by foriegn invasion.

Mehrgarh is Balochistan is the basis of the much of Pakistanis and North and western indian people.

Pakistanis are the indigenous people of Indus valley civilization.Even the hinduism holybook Rig veda was written by Ancient Pakistans aka the People of IVC

Over the internet i had made many afghan friends and many of them are non pashtuns aswell.THe non pashtun afghan want to get seperated from the afghan pashtuns under Khorosan or something named similar.as they said if there were no Pashtuns in Afghanistan.we could had been a much more developed and non extremist country.This made me sad as no matter what afghan think of us pashtun Pakistanis.anyone criticizing them tears me apart and causes my heart to bleed.


Pakistan cant be splitted as the difference between the 4 major ethnicites of pakistanis are becoming less and less.

The punjabi now are atleast 30% pashtunized.they admire Pashtuns.and even on Defence.pk forum you might witness punjabis fighting for pashtuns.


About Punjabis.
They are not indians because the region of Punjab and sindh fall under Indus valley civilization.They might very well be the indigenous people of IVC

[Bengal_Tiger]

I dont know whom to reply.there is one post worth replying.But after reading a few afghans comments about splitting of Pakistan and all the dreamy stuff.

If we take out history And Iqbal vision.Than the vision of iqbal or his dream of forming A new country for muslims never mentioned the Bangladesh or east Pakistan in the past.

Pakistanis are much much more socially better integrated than any other country in south asia.If we exclude the TTP factors and a couple of there sister orginazation.

We The pashtuns,Baloch,Punjabi and Sindhi stand united to defend our land.

Pakistan actually never was a part of India but rather merged with india by foriegn invasion.

Mehrgarh is Balochistan is the basis of the much of Pakistanis and North and western indian people.

Pakistanis are the indigenous people of Indus valley civilization.Even the hinduism holybook Rig veda was written by Ancient Pakistans aka the People of IVC

Over the internet i had made many afghan friends and many of them are non pashtuns aswell.THe non pashtun afghan want to get seperated from the afghan pashtuns under Khorosan or something named similar.as they said if there were no Pashtuns in Afghanistan.we could had been a much more developed and non extremist country.This made me sad as no matter what afghan think of us pashtun Pakistanis.anyone criticizing them tears me apart and causes my heart to bleed.


Pakistan cant be splitted as the difference between the 4 major ethnicites of pakistanis are becoming less and less.

The punjabi now are atleast 30% pashtunized.they admire Pashtuns.and even on Defence.pk forum you might witness punjabis fighting for pashtuns.


About Punjabis.
They are not indians because the region of Punjab and sindh fall under Indus valley civilization.They might very well be the indigenous people of IVC

1. Pakistanis kill each other every day.

The death rate in Karachi is currently about 6 per day in terms of politically-related killings.

The Mohajir MQM fights with the Pashtun ANP and Sindhi PPP.

About 2 years ago in the holy month of Ramadan Pakistanis in Karachi were killing each other and chopping their bodies up.

One week of the latest round of violence, leaving over a hundred dead. Videos doing the rounds of the net, if believed, show a level of bestiality that is shocking. People are being tortured, sexually humiliated and abused, and probably later killed. The gunny bags and chopped up bodies have reappeared.
Rwanda? No. It’s Karachi, the financial hub and largest city of Pakistan...

http://tribune.com.pk/story/238525/p...ance-of-death/

2. Even before the TTP existed, there were murders and bombings of Shias in the 1990s (way before 9/11) by the Sipah i Sahaba.

Shias are massacred regularly now in Pakistan.

3. If Pakistanis are getting closer, why do Hazaras now want to separate from KPK and want their own province?

What sort of "unity" is that?

4. On defence.pk, Pashtuns are regularly insulted and Afghans in particular. Members have regularly spoken about nuking FATA.

You are clearly a brainwashed "Pathan" (Punjabized/desified "Pashtun") and Pakistan-wala.

Pakistan may not necessarily break. It may survive and become a very strong nation after this period of turmoil, but to live in cloud cuckoo land and deny the huge ethnic rifts in this bitterly divided country is delusional.


For everyone else here is a video from Karachi from over 18 months ago.

Unrest in Karachi continues, street fighting continues in Lyari - YouTube

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Dont debate the Pathan. He is brainwashed by napak ideology. Its like talking to the pakistani member of english defence league: abdul salaam

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

[QUOTE]

1. Pakistanis kill each other every day.

The death rate in Karachi is currently about 6 per day in terms of politically-related killings.

The Mohajir MQM fights with the Pashtun ANP and Sindhi PPP.

About 2 years ago in the holy month of Ramadan Pakistanis in Karachi were killing each other and chopping their bodies up.



http://tribune.com.pk/story/238525/p...ance-of-death/

Lol not Pakistanis but TTP and other terrorist groups.They are not Pakistani or may be not anymore similar like the bengali are no more pakistanis?

Yes the death rate in karachi is huge and again that is not since the Re formation of Pakistan in 1947 but since less than a decade before.
But do you know the population of karachi is more than 20millions or more like 70% or above the total population of afghanistan combined

Such internal problems exist.i hate mahajirs but i admire mahajirs like our Dear COAS Kiyani the Boss to be replaced by Tariq Khan in near future

2. Even before the TTP existed, there were murders and bombings of Shias in the 1990s (way before 9/11) by the Sipah i Sahaba.

sectarian violence.nothing to do with ethnicities.And this happen in almost every muslim countries.where either of them is minority.

Shias are massacred regularly now in Pakistan.

yes the hazara shia.not the hindko hazara but the real hazara of central asia and afghanistan.

as i said earlier this has more to do with sectarian violence

3. If Pakistanis are getting closer, why do Hazaras now want to separate from KPK and want their own province?

Whether you know or not but i study in Abbottabad.having friends from battagaram.i was discussing the potential hazara province with him.All he said neither we nor the kohistani would ever merge into hazara province.he said abbasin division would be created soon.
the abbasin division include torghar,kohistan,battagram and parts of mansehra
this means the remaining hazara division/potential province would be of abbottabad,half mansehra and smaller haripur.this is equal to an average size city.let them create such an small province for them.

in return our demand for merging pashtun majority cities of balochistan into kpk with the formation of greater kpk will get stronger and eventually A greater KPK will be formed upto the kalat city of balochistan by absorbing 55% of today balochistan into greater kpk making it the largest province of Pakistan.

4. On defence.pk, Pashtuns are regularly insulted and Afghans in particular. Members have regularly spoken about nuking FATA.

You are clearly a brainwashed "Pathan" (Punjabized/desified "Pashtun") and Pakistan-wala.

really?what is your username in def.pk?
other than this pakistan is a diverse country with 180million population and everyone is entitled to his opinion.

brainwashed?you are a bengali.may be this is a enough insult to you.Though i respect majority of Bengali people as they do have some influence of Martial race aka the pakistanis

A pashtun is a pashtun neither a shia influenced like majority of afghan pashtuns nor a sunni influenced Pakistani pashtun

Pakistan may not necessarily break. It may survive and become a very strong nation after this period of turmoil, but to live in cloud cuckoo land and deny the huge ethnic rifts in this bitterly divided country is delusional.

Pakistan is bound to get stronger and stronger.

For everyone else here is a video from Karachi from over 18 months ago.

Unrest in Karachi continues, street fighting continues in Lyari - YouTube[/URL]

i can show you such videos of afghan cutting the throats of each other.does it mean afghan are divided?

every tribe even within the pashtuns are to some extent divided.but for a external threat they are one.

we pakistani let suppose even if are divided.for a external threat we are united.

remember the last time afghan checkposts were bombed by local tribes close to the border for killing a Pashtun FC

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

some member are under delusions.

unlike afghanistan where farsi/dari or the shia language is spoken by more than 70% of population

In pakistan only 8% people speak urdu.

punjabi is the largest spoken langauge in Pakistan
follwed by pashto


in afghanistan Shia language is spoken by the most
followed by pashto spoken only by 40%.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Dont debate the Pathan. He is brainwashed by napak ideology. Its like talking to the pakistani member of english defence league: abdul salaam

ta sok ye?

shia language speaker?shia cultural influenced kabuli?

zama kabuli malgarya zamung da izzat de kharab ka.

it makes me very sad when i see my kabuli refugees in pakistan influenced by shia culture.i had corrected many for even being sunni deobandi.they still used to say Hazrat Ali A.S.this was all because of the brainwashing of innocent kabuli by the shia and dari.i had corrected them to say

Hazrat Ali (R.A)


A pashtun should be a musim not shia.if even one follow shia culture.he cant be a pashtun

PROUD TO BE A KARLANI PASHTUN UNLIKE MY KABULI FRIENDS

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Da punjab mazdigar if farsi is a shia language then change the national anthem of pakistan and while at it also change the name of Pakistan because pak is a farsi word.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Da punjab mazdigar if farsi is a shia language then change the national anthem of pakistan and while at it also change the name of Pakistan because pak is a farsi word.

farsi indeed is a shia language but unlike kabuli people..Pakistan is a diverse country and having 2nd largest population of shia after iran.and was once the largest

so we can defend the statement of having our national anthem in farsi as we have significant numbers of shia as Pakistanis.

what about you?you guys are neither shia nor sunni but rather a in between.you follow sunni Islam but are influeced by shia culture and celebrate everything with them

Today apart from karlani pashtun i dont term the rest of the 3 other major tribes of pashtuns as even the true pashtuns.

Studies has proven that Karlani might be even older than the so called the great Qaid abdur rashid and there is a possibility of karlani pashtuns even older than him and even he might be the descendent of karlani pashtuns

Hence we the Karlani pashtuns are the only true pashtuns left..the rest are farsiwand shia influenced pashtun like the afghan.

i was so much surprised by the tajik statement when he told me let the Coalition forces leave Afghanistan.we cant leave with extremist anymore.we will force the pashtuns into kabul and adjacent places and rather form a new country under khorasan for us tajik,uzbek and hazara.

Kabuli(so called afghan pashtuns) has destroyed not only the lives of tajik,uzbek and hazara in Afghanistan but has completely effed up we the Karlani and the rest of Pakistani pashtuns by putting there extremist mindset into our youth aswell.

accepting kabuli as refugees in KPK was the greatest mistake we ever did.

the kabuli sold us KPK and FATA pashtuns to british under fear of being invaded.while we exactly after almost 100 years gave them shelter in our land and again they introduced AK culture into KPK and ofcourse forced extremism into our youth aswell

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Punjab Mazdigar, why do you refer to Ali ibn Abi Taalib as "a.s"?

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Punjab Mazdigar, why do you refer to Ali ibn Abi Taalib as "a.s"?

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shamlawar kabuli i was correcting him as to not say "A.S" as this is preserved for Prophets apart from Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) to the rest of all the prophets.

i corrected him to rather say "R.A" with Hazrat Ali.

Atleast punjabi are sunni unlike the farsiwant shia and shia influenced people like you.

Mizha kho pa Pakistan sha pa panjabion badmashi pakha kare da.sta so mara kho akhpal watan k tajik/farsiwand/uzbek ao hazara bande zanoona khars karal.

extremely sad to see Afghanistan occupied by 40+ countries+influenced by shia culture and language

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

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shamlawar kabuli i was correcting him as to not say "A.S" as this is preserved for Prophets apart from Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) to the rest of all the prophets.

i corrected him to rather say "R.A" with Hazrat Ali.

Atleast punjabi are sunni unlike the farsiwant shia and shia influenced people like you.

Mizha kho pa Pakistan sha pa panjabion badmashi pakha kare da.sta so mara kho akhpal watan k tajik/farsiwand/uzbek ao hazara bande zanoona khars karal.

extremely sad to see Afghanistan occupied by 40+ countries+influenced by shia culture and language

You are the one who keeps saying a.s

It seems you are loosing your temper now. First you said farsi is a shia language.

When I pointed out that your national anthem and even the name of your country is farsi, you quickly changed your tactic and started speaking more garbage.

It seems you are a spineless slave of Punjab.

Kabuli = Khurasan. Khurasan is where the army of the Muslims will be when "Hind" will be conqured. You are a Hindi. So you are going to be conquered by Khurasani Muslim army.

[KGODB]

farsi indeed is a shia language but unlike kabuli people..Pakistan is a diverse country and having 2nd largest population of shia after iran.and was once the largest

so we can defend the statement of having our national anthem in farsi as we have significant numbers of shia as Pakistanis.

what about you?you guys are neither shia nor sunni but rather a in between.you follow sunni Islam but are influeced by shia culture and celebrate everything with them

Today apart from karlani pashtun i dont term the rest of the 3 other major tribes of pashtuns as even the true pashtuns.

Studies has proven that Karlani might be even older than the so called the great Qaid abdur rashid and there is a possibility of karlani pashtuns even older than him and even he might be the descendent of karlani pashtuns

Hence we the Karlani pashtuns are the only true pashtuns left..the rest are farsiwand shia influenced pashtun like the afghan.

i was so much surprised by the tajik statement when he told me let the Coalition forces leave Afghanistan.we cant leave with extremist anymore.we will force the pashtuns into kabul and adjacent places and rather form a new country under khorasan for us tajik,uzbek and hazara.

Kabuli(so called afghan pashtuns) has destroyed not only the lives of tajik,uzbek and hazara in Afghanistan but has completely effed up we the Karlani and the rest of Pakistani pashtuns by putting there extremist mindset into our youth aswell.

accepting kabuli as refugees in KPK was the greatest mistake we ever did.

the kabuli sold us KPK and FATA pashtuns to british under fear of being invaded.while we exactly after almost 100 years gave them shelter in our land and again they introduced AK culture into KPK and ofcourse forced extremism into our youth aswell

impeccable trolling my man