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Ahmadzai (ghiljay)Originally posted by Tiger Khan View PostKhurasani, you are persistant, thats for sure. what tribe ru? i am khattakOriginally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Kabul is a very different place now. It use to be a province where most of its districts were predominantly Pashtun except central and northern districts.Originally posted by Tiger Khan View PostSo what percentage of Kabul Province in your opinion is pashtun, be honest.
Recently due to an influx of Tajiks from the north and Hazara's from Iran and the wast, the Pashtuns are no longer a majority.
There are many Pashtuns in Kabul who recently settled there. They are primarily the people from the Pakistani refugee camps. Before they settled in Kabul, all districts around Kabul wwere known for being settlements for primarily Kochi tribes.
My anscestors are Kochis from Khost. They settled in Kabul in the 19th century. Similarly, the Hotak, Sulaimankhel, Kharoti and other Kochi tribes settled in Kabul.
Most of Kabul province use to be pastoral land. The Ghiljay was part of the landscape as Kochi tribes have always traveled across Afghanistan all the way to Northern India.
If you go to Deh Sabz, you will find there many villages belonging to Kochi tribes like Tarakhel, Kattakhel, Karrokhel, Utkhel, Isakhel, Musakhel etc. WHen you move south to Khake Jabbar, you will find yourself in Ahmadzai Kochi heartland. Khake Jabbar is where Jabbarkhel branch of Ahmadzai kochis have their historic base. There are a few Jabbarkhel families there now, but instead you will find many Musakhel, Isakhel, Karrokhel and other kochi tribes. Surubi is primarily an Ahmadzai and Hotak district. There are Sahaks, Hussainkhel and Babakarkhel there and there are some settlers from Kandahar like the Khumarikhel.
South of Khakejabbar towards Shewaki and other districts like Musayi, you will find a mixture of Pashtun and Tajik settlements. But majority of villages have Pashtuns. Primarily Kochis from Ahmadzai tribe.
When you move west from Khake Jabbar towards Shina & Kamari, you will find Kakar Kochis and other Southern Kochi tribes.
North in Bagrami and Shakardarra you will find Nasar, Sur Nasar, Katta Khel, Karrowkhel, Ibrahimkhel etc. All kochi tribes from Zabul & Paktika settled there late in the 18 and 19th century.
Even in places like Jabbal Siraj you will find many Pashtun villages. All from Kochi tribes. Paghman is entirely Pashtun with a few non Pashtun villages. Its primarily a Sulaimankhel & Ahmadzai district with few pockets of Kharoti.
And these are some of the places I have detailed knowledge of. Other districts have other combination of tribes, Pashtun and non Pashtun. But you will find that Pashtuns are settled all across Kabul.
The city has a very rich Pashtun history. Basically, Kabul is an extension of Loy Paktia as most Ghiljay Kochi tribes from neigboring Logar and Paktia have moved and settled in Kabul.
Kabul is the last frontier of Pashtuns. Everything north of Kabul is still less Pashtun.
Anyone who claims Kabul is not a Pashtun province, is clearly ignorant or a tajik fascist.Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 08-29-2013, 04:55 PM.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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please dont remind me of that. I suffered from a trauma because I use to like that criminal. Alhamdulilah I found out what a ruthless murderer and apostate he was. No I detest him.Originally posted by Hallo View Postlike najibullah
Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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cool. My ancestors are from Kohat. It used to be Hindko area, but than the khattaks came who took over business. Afterwards, Bangush, Orakzais, SHinwaris, Safies and Afridi also came from other areas. Now basically pashtuns run the district. Hindko is spoken by a minority in the city, but they also communicate in pashto.Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostKabul is a very different place now. It use to be a province where most of its districts were predominantly Pashtun except central and northern districts.
Recently due to an influx of Tajiks from the north and Hazara's from Iran and the wast, the Pashtuns are no longer a majority.
There are many Pashtuns in Kabul who recently settled there. They are primarily the people from the Pakistani refugee camps. Before they settled in Kabul, all districts around Kabul wwere known for being settlements for primarily Kochi tribes.
My anscestors are Kochis from Khost. They settled in Kabul in the 19th century. Similarly, the Hotak, Sulaimankhel, Kharoti and other Kochi tribes settled in Kabul.
Most of Kabul province use to be pastoral land. The Ghiljay was part of the landscape as Kochi tribes have always traveled across Afghanistan all the way to Northern India.
If you go to Deh Sabz, you will find there many villages belonging to Kochi tribes like Tarakhel, Kattakhel, Karrokhel, Utkhel, Isakhel, Musakhel etc. WHen you move south to Khake Jabbar, you will find yourself in Ahmadzai Kochi heartland. Khake Jabbar is where Jabbarkhel branch of Ahmadzai kochis have their historic base. There are a few Jabbarkhel families there now, but instead you will find many Musakhel, Isakhel, Karrokhel and other kochi tribes. Surubi is primarily an Ahmadzai and Hotak district. There are Sahaks, Hussainkhel and Babakarkhel there and there are some settlers from Kandahar like the Khumarikhel.
South of Khakejabbar towards Shewaki and other districts like Musayi, you will find a mixture of Pashtun and Tajik settlements. But majority of villages have Pashtuns. Primarily Kochis from Ahmadzai tribe.
When you move west from Khake Jabbar towards Shina & Kamari, you will find Kakar Kochis and other Southern Kochi tribes.
North in Bagrami and Shakardarra you will find Nasar, Sur Nasar, Katta Khel, Karrowkhel, Ibrahimkhel etc. All kochi tribes from Zabul & Paktika settled there late in the 18 and 19th century.
Even in places like Jabbal Siraj you will find many Pashtun villages. All from Kochi tribes. Paghman is entirely Pashtun with a few non Pashtun villages. Its primarily a Sulaimankhel & Ahmadzai district with few pockets of Kharoti.
And these are some of the places I have detailed knowledge of. Other districts have other combination of tribes, Pashtun and non Pashtun. But you will find that Pashtuns are settled all across Kabul.
The city has a very rich Pashtun history. Basically, Kabul is an extension of Loy Paktia as most Ghiljay Kochi tribes from neigboring Logar and Paktia have moved and settled in Kabul.
Kabul is the last frontier of Pashtuns. Everything north of Kabul is still less Pashtun.
Anyone who claims Kabul is not a Pashtun province, is clearly ignorant or a tajik fascist.What really drives me hazy is it me or are the others crazy
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v seme ne bez svenei haha oi kapez ya ne moguOriginally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Postplease dont remind me of that. I suffered from a trauma because I use to like that criminal. Alhamdulilah I found out what a ruthless murderer and apostate he was. No I detest him.
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Tajiks use to be a majority in Kabul. But that was a long time ago. Pashtuns are expanding their territory to the east and west.Originally posted by Tiger Khan View Postcool. My ancestors are from Kohat. It used to be Hindko area, but than the khattaks came who took over business. Afterwards, Bangush, Orakzais, SHinwaris, Safies and Afridi also came from other areas. Now basically pashtuns run the district. Hindko is spoken by a minority in the city, but they also communicate in pashto.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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