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    One of the highest-ranking Islamic scholars Mufti-e-Azam Saudi Arabia in his last year Hajj address said: “suicide attacks are prohibited in Islam.” Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Sheikh emphasized in his sermon to some two million Muslims performing the day-of-Arafat obligations on Mount Arafat, a hill to the east of Mecca that “anyone who attempts or carries out a suicide attack will not be forgiven by God.”
    On Monday August 5th chief of the Ulema (Clerics) Council of Afghanistan, Qeyamuddin Kashaf said: “suicide attack is illegitimate in the religion of Islam, and the recent attack in Jalalabd city was against the instructions and commands of holy Quran.” Mr. Kashaf also urged the Afghan Ulemas (Clerics) to stand against the Taliban militants who are killing innocent civilians and carry out suicide attacks.
    Two days ago mullah Omar the spiritual leader of the Taliban released an Eid statements claiming the Taliban do not aim to cause harm to Afghan civilians; contrary to what he says in his statements, his followers have targeted civilians in the month of Ramazan using children suicide bombers.
    Don’t you think Taliban’s use of children as suicide bombers is not only sickening, but it makes a mockery of Mullah Omar’s claim to protect children and civilians?
    Don’t you think any movement or army that manipulates or coerces children into becoming human bombs has lost touch with basic humanity?
    Respectfully,
    Hashmat
    DET, United States Central Command
    www.Centcom.mil

  • #2
    the council is funded and created by kafirs. so nothing they say is of any value.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    • #3
      Aha, good piece of information to have.
      Another FAKE front of ulema, same tactic discussed on earlier thread
      about how Soviet ATHEISTS did this, too.
      It's a pity.
      Why can't people speak for themslves and determine their own
      destinies ?

      Anyway, surely there will be edict against this practice
      issued as soon as - ahem - foreign troops LEAVE -

      Notice how nothing is said in the original statement
      about the CAUSE of this sad problem ??

      One can always TELL who is honest and who is NOT
      by how they SHIFT BLAME onto others for their own sins...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
        Aha, good piece of information to have.
        Another FAKE front of ulema, same tactic discussed on earlier thread
        about how Soviet ATHEISTS did this, too.
        It's a pity.
        Why can't people speak for themslves and determine their own
        destinies ?

        Anyway, surely there will be edict against this practice
        issued as soon as - ahem - foreign troops LEAVE -

        Notice how nothing is said in the original statement
        about the CAUSE of this sad problem ??

        One can always TELL who is honest and who is NOT
        by how they SHIFT BLAME onto others for their own sins...

        do you agree with suicide bombing Catya?
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #8
                RTR< I think it's bad.

                I understand WHY they use that tactic, but it is
                of course a terrible thing.

                That's why I think it will be wise for MullahO. to
                immediately state that these are banned upon departure of the troops.

                It will neutralize all the opposition and remove a big
                cause for dissension especially amongst Afghans living in the West
                who dislike this and feel embarrassed after all the media reports like the one above.

                Then hopefully every Afghan of good will and common sense
                can unite behind a new Islamic government which will bring
                justice and peace to the poor long-suffering country and people.

                The other problem with this tactic is that it is SO EASY to fake
                a false flag attack. There is no way to check WHO really sent that
                bomber. So false flags are easily conducted, blamed on a vague
                catch-all "The Dread Taliban".

                Half the time, I am sure it is rather The Dread Mossad Agents doing that stuff,
                especially when there is no military target.
                It tarnishes the image of Muslims everywhere so it achieves the
                Mossad goal.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #11
                      as you can see, the Salafi scholars are divided into two camps. One supporting martyrdom operations and one prohibiting it.

                      Therefore, fatwa shopping, that is what the so called council of so called scholars is doing now, is clearly the work of the Americans.

                      If the scholars in Kabul are really scholars, why do they need to go fatwa shopping in Saudi?

                      Mufti of Saudi Arabia has no authority outside Saudi Arabia. Besides, if people are really interested in his fatawa, then we can pull out a whole library of fatawa by him where he says things that go entirely against the political and economic interests of the Kabul regime, its so called scholars and the relationship between Kabul & Washington.

                      The truth of the matter is, Kabul is becoming desperate. Thats they they look for desperate means to somehow give the regime an Islamic status.
                      Originally posted by Firdousi
                      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                        the council is funded and created by kafirs. so nothing they say is of any value.
                        Says Infidel Salafi huh!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hashmat View Post
                          One of the highest-ranking Islamic scholars Mufti-e-Azam Saudi Arabia in his last year Hajj address said: “suicide attacks are prohibited in Islam.” Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Sheikh emphasized in his sermon to some two million Muslims performing the day-of-Arafat obligations on Mount Arafat, a hill to the east of Mecca that “anyone who attempts or carries out a suicide attack will not be forgiven by God.”
                          On Monday August 5th chief of the Ulema (Clerics) Council of Afghanistan, Qeyamuddin Kashaf said: “suicide attack is illegitimate in the religion of Islam, and the recent attack in Jalalabd city was against the instructions and commands of holy Quran.” Mr. Kashaf also urged the Afghan Ulemas (Clerics) to stand against the Taliban militants who are killing innocent civilians and carry out suicide attacks.
                          Two days ago mullah Omar the spiritual leader of the Taliban released an Eid statements claiming the Taliban do not aim to cause harm to Afghan civilians; contrary to what he says in his statements, his followers have targeted civilians in the month of Ramazan using children suicide bombers.
                          Don’t you think Taliban’s use of children as suicide bombers is not only sickening, but it makes a mockery of Mullah Omar’s claim to protect children and civilians?
                          Don’t you think any movement or army that manipulates or coerces children into becoming human bombs has lost touch with basic humanity?
                          Respectfully,
                          Hashmat
                          DET, United States Central Command
                          www.Centcom.mil
                          Hashmat,

                          Here is a link for a military consultant named Dr. Robert Pape.

                          Robert Pape - Cutting the Fuse: The Explosion of Suicide Terrorism and How to Stop It (3 of 4) - YouTube[/URL]

                          Start watching at 8 min 26 seconds. Preferably you could watch the whole talk called "Cutting the Fuse."

                          It provides an evidence based answer to your question and offers some simple solutions.

                          The point Dr. Pape makes is that the approach you are taking with citing the Saudi Mufti is actually not guided by logic or data since that is not combating the causal factor for such actions in the first place.

                          Dr. Pape has the largest collection to date of data on the utilization of such methodologies and in the case of Afghanistan, and northern Pakistan, he attempts to demonstrate a correlation between ISAF troop movements and the uptick in such actions.

                          I hope you enjoy this as this particular talk was given to military members about the concept of "Off shore Balancing."

                          If you get the chance to watch the whole thing then it would be good to hear your thoughts.
                          Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 08-14-2013, 09:20 PM.
                          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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