Is Pakistan a nation (revised)

[TolloAfghanSpinDai]

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[randolph85]

its on the map and denying its nationhood won't make the problem go away, much like the israel situation. so yes its a nation state.

whos a legal national entity and who is not is inconsequential since it is decided by a bunch of out of touch world powers, what matters is if the entity in question can actually function as a nation. in that case i would say no since most of pakistans problems are sectarian/ethnic whereas in afghanistan its ideological.

[Kushan Prince]

Pakistan doesn't exist according to Afghanistan and Pashtuns in general.

[TolloAfghanSpinDai]

Pakistan doesn't exist according to Afghanistan and Pashtuns in general.

except Ghaddar Pakistani Pashtoons.

[randolph85]

Pakistan doesn't exist according to Afghanistan and Pashtuns in general.

Unfortunately there are many proud paki pashtuns, this is no secret.

[Kushan Prince]

except Ghaddar Pakistani Pashtoons.

Except only the Peshawar Pashtuns call themselves paki. The Godar Pashtuns on the other hand see themselves as Afghan considering how they live with baloch nationalists.

[TolloAfghanSpinDai]

Except only the Peshawar Pashtuns call themselves paki. The Godar Pashtuns on the other hand see themselves as Afghan considering how they live with baloch nationalists.

Makes sense, since Peshawar is 50% Pashto-speaking and 50% Punjabi speaking..... maybe from the really big cities they are Paki.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Well Calling pashtuns of pakistan as Gaddar because of they being patriotic Pakistani doesnt make sense..

The pashtuns of Pakistan are now completely integrated with Pakistan society
They do have alot of respect for Afghan pashtuns.

[Kushan Prince]

Well Calling pashtuns of pakistan as Gaddar because of they being patriotic Pakistani doesnt make sense..

The pashtuns of Pakistan are now completely integrated with Pakistan society
They do have alot of respect for Afghan pashtuns.

I wasn't calling them gaddar, I was saying the Pashtuns from Godar (Pashto word for balochistan) consider themselves as afghans while the KPK Pashtuns call themselves paki because of the vast brainwashing of them thanks to punjabis. Not all Durand Pashtuns like pakistan, a lot of then want an independent Pashtunistan.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

I wasn't calling them gaddar, I was saying the Pashtuns from Godar (Pashto word for balochistan) consider themselves as afghans while the KPK Pashtuns call themselves paki because of the vast brainwashing of them thanks to punjabis. Not all Durand Pashtuns like pakistan, a lot of then want an independent Pashtunistan.

Sorry..i was unaware of this that Balochistan is called Godar in Pashto

Well may be you are right since i have never been to balochistan(had been to zhob but only for 2 days).Though i had quite a few friends of sherani tribe from zhob(school time friends) and i had noticed the same patriotism among them as the rest of Pakistani pashtuns

Though as i said above i dont know about the mass number of pashtuns thinking regarding pakistan.
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Well even if pashtunistan is made by merging the pashtuns majority areas in Afghanistan with KPK and few cities of Balochistan to make up a new pashtunistan

dont you think the pashtunistan region still will remain a landlocked country and the only possible route to warm water for us would be Pakistan since Iran wont allow us Talibani called pashtuns to have access to water through iran..because the pashtuns always were a major potential threat to shia.that too twelver shia from afghanistan

[Kushan Prince]

Sorry..i was unaware of this that Balochistan is called Godar in Pashto

Well may be you are right since i have never been to balochistan(had been to zhob but only for 2 days).Though i had quite a few friends of sherani tribe from zhob(school time friends) and i had noticed the same patriotism among them as the rest of Pakistani pashtuns

Though as i said above i dont know about the mass number of pashtuns thinking regarding pakistan.
let say
Well even if pashtunistan is made by merging the pashtuns majority areas in Afghanistan with KPK and few cities of Balochistan to make up a new pashtunistan

dont you think the pashtunistan region still will remain a landlocked country and the only possible route to warm water for us would be Pakistan since Iran wont allow us Talibani called pashtuns to have access to water through iran..because the pashtuns always were a major potential threat to shia.that too twelver shia from afghanistan

Logicaly thinking, an idealistic pashtunistan is impossible. By pashtunistan I meant only KPK and balochistan merging to make a new country. Where as Afghanistan want pakistan to give back the Pashtun provinces. Honestly I think Durand Pashtuns should wake up and snap out the brainwashing caused by punjabis and should unite with their Pashtun brothers in Afghanistan. Make a Loy Afghanistan. Pakistan is going to collapse very soon because of how unstable its economy is and the amount of ethnic tensions arisen.