Why do we include Balochistan in a hypothetical Pashtunistan?

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Lands are won by fighting for them not by mere discussion

For a small piece of land in Kashmir,Pakistan has fought 4 times with an enemy 5times bigger than it,Lost billion in the game.Pakistan has even risked the the chances of nuclear war with the development and deployment of NASR BRBM along the border with a tacticle warhead.

If you want to get the land,Come and fight the million strong army.You might either get the land or send to hell.Their is no other choice.And if by any chance your caught alive.ISI will do the nazi sort of experiments with you in haripur prison :D

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

No you are wrong

Brahvis are considered Baluch who have their own language.
Makoranis are Baluch who live in Makoran region so how are not Baluch?

Why should we join anything? How is that different from being a part of Pakistan or Iran?

Bravi people are actually South india while makorani's are completely different People.Settled in pakistan after getting into Balochistan through sea centuries back.

Baloch People complete population in Pakistan is only 8Million of which less than 4Million are in Balochistan while the rest are in sindh and other parts of Pakistan.

[Dila Teer Bija]

You should read some history Afghanistan did had acces to the sea some time ago, but if Baloch are so eager to make there own nation they can do it, I would be happy for them, but I don't see that happening in at least 50-100 years.

Prove your claim.

Gwadar and Makoran was never in Afghanistan.

I also don't see independent Baluchistan.

[Dila Teer Bija]

It is so funny. Pakistan still exist and brain dead people are still trying to divide the land amongst themselves. Baloch, Pashtuns and Afghans in this thread discussing who get which part of the land. Reviving a thread which is more than 1 year old just to reply to some random people... you gotta be kidding...

Do you guys seriously thinking Pakistan going to start distributing their land to you guys... and that is why you start discussing who gets which part of the land... If you want an independent state then take your guns and fight Pakistan, or just be silence and stop humiliating yourself. Imagine a homeless man living in the middle of the dessert, yet talking about owning a castle and a Lamborghini, that how you guys sound like.

All I am saying here is that Pashtuns or Afghanistan have no connection to Gwadar and Makoran coast you people should stop including our land in your fantasy.

[Dila Teer Bija]

Bravi people are actually South india while makorani's are completely different People.Settled in pakistan after getting into Balochistan through sea centuries back.

Baloch People complete population in Pakistan is only 8Million of which less than 4Million are in Balochistan while the rest are in sindh and other parts of Pakistan.

No Brahvis are not south Indian they are a Baluch tribe and they are part of Baluch. Baluch have different origins, not all are the same origin.
Makoranis are Baluch who live in Makoran. Sheedis are Baluch of Zingi origin but all of these people are considered part of Baluch nation.

[DSM0305]

All I am saying here is that Pashtuns or Afghanistan have no connection to Gwadar and Makoran coast you people should stop including our land in your fantasy.

You don't have a land, it is part of Pakistan. And the attitude you have, you will never have a land. Pakistan doesn't like you, Iran doesn't like you, only Afghans are in your favor and with your attitude there wont even be anything called baloch anymore. So before you worry about our ''fantasy'' maybe you should focus about Pakistan the ''reality''.

[Dila Teer Bija]

You don't have a land, it is part of Pakistan. And the attitude you have, you will never have a land. Pakistan doesn't like you, Iran doesn't like you, only Afghans are in your favor and with your attitude there wont even be anything called baloch anymore. So before you worry about our ''fantasy'' maybe you should focus about Pakistan the ''reality''.

I have no problem with Pakistan, Omani Baluch consider Pakistan their homeland.

It is you people who keep trying to annex Baluchistan by putting it in Afghanistan just so you can have access to the sea.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

The Era of Nation's being created on ethnicity or religion are long gone.

[DSM0305]

I have no problem with Pakistan, Omani Baluch consider Pakistan their homeland.

It is you people who keep trying to annex Baluchistan by putting it in Afghanistan just so you can have access to the sea.

Are you brain dead?
- Have Afghanistan invaded you guys?
- Have Afghanistan killed you guys?
- Have Afghanistan forced you to do something against your will?

No one cares about Baluchistan or your people. Stop with your wet dreams, no one think you're important. There is some Afghans in the west who may support Baluch independents, but that about it. It not even physical support, just morally. The rest of 30 + million of Afghans don't care about you.

You have just seen a map in the internet and now you think that Afghanistan have all of sudden some hidden motive to annex the land... You must have some serious mental illness for thinking that...

[Dila Teer Bija]

Are you brain dead?
- Have Afghanistan invaded you guys?
- Have Afghanistan killed you guys?
- Have Afghanistan forced you to do something against your will?

No one cares about Baluchistan or your people. Stop with your wet dreams, no one think you're important. There is some Afghans in the west who may support Baluch independents, but that about it. It not even physical support, just morally. The rest of 30 + million of Afghans don't care about you.

You have just seen a map in the internet and now you think that Afghanistan have all of sudden some hidden motive to annex the land... You must have some serious mental illness for thinking that...

If Pakistan or Iran doesnt care then why is Baluchistan part of them?

You stupid fascist Afghans need to solve your own messed up country before seeing "wet dreams" of our Makoran coast.

[DSM0305]

If Pakistan or Iran doesnt care then why is Baluchistan part of them?

You stupid fascist Afghans need to solve your own messed up country before seeing "wet dreams" of our Makoran coast.

It is part of them because they don't care about you, that the whole point...
Whether we get the coast is not for baloch to decide, but Pakistan. If Pakistan for some odd reason want to give it to Afghans they will do it, if not they will not. Baloch have no say in it.

And one more thing, at least we have a country.

Baloch is maximum 8 million in Pakistan, while Pakistan consists of almost 200 million people. Make the math and see how much influence you guys have. Actually as in matter of fact Baloch have even smaller influence compare to their size.

Most influenced ethnicities in Pakistan
1 Punjabis
2 Sindhis
3 Pashtuns
4 Kasmiris
5 other minorities
6 Baloch
Basically you're at the bottom. If we want a free pass to the coast, we wouldn't even be asking you guys, but rather the 3 biggest ethnicities.

[Dila Teer Bija]

It is part of them because they don't care about you, that the whole point...
Whether we get the coast is not for baloch to decide, but Pakistan. If Pakistan for some odd reason want to give it to Afghans they will do it, if not they will not. Baloch have no say in it.

And one more thing, at least we have a country.

Baloch is maximum 8 million in Pakistan, while Pakistan consists of almost 200 million people. Make the math and see how much influence you guys have. Actually as in matter of fact Baloch have even smaller influence compare to their size.

Most influenced ethnicities in Pakistan
1 Punjabis
2 Sindhis
3 Pashtuns
4 Kasmiris
5 other minorities
6 Baloch
Basically you're at the bottom. If we want a free pass to the coast, we wouldn't even be asking you guys, but rather the 3 biggest ethnicities.

you have one country, we have Pakistan, Oman, UAE, Iran and Bahrain, which are all 1000000x better than your useless terrorist homosexual country.

Zindag baate mani mardum e Baluch o marg par hamag maar e Afghani

[DSM0305]

you have one country, we have Pakistan, Oman, UAE, Iran and Bahrain, which are all 1000000x better than your useless terrorist homosexual country.

Zindag baate mani mardum e Baluch o marg par hamag maar e Afghani

Trust me you don't want to go there. Do you want me to post prove of your ''proud'' baloch and their sexual desires for men or would you rather have me post prove of your ''proud'' women who sells themselves. Lets be honest, you don't have a single country. You can fool yourself as much you want, but the reality wont change.

Before I supported Baloch independent, but now I know for sure how disgusting you people are. ISI and FC doing a great job for getting ride of ****s like you. I always wondered why ISI and FC killed you guys, but now I know they deserve a medal for that. Good luck with your ''fight'' with FC, maybe if you beg, then they just may let you live. You can hardly call it a fight since it so one sided.

[Dila Teer Bija]

Trust me you don't want to go there. Do you want me to post prove of your ''proud'' baloch and their sexual desires for men or would you rather have me post prove of your ''proud'' women who sells themselves. Lets be honest, you don't have a single country. You can fool yourself as much you want, but the reality wont change.

Before I supported Baloch independent, but now I know for sure how disgusting you people are. ISI and FC doing a great job for getting ride of ****s like you. I always wondered why ISI and FC killed you guys, but now I know they deserve a medal for that. Good luck with your ''fight'' with FC, maybe if you beg, then they just may let you live. You can hardly call it a fight since it so one sided.

Tai dila teer e USA, NATO, USSR o Taliban bija

God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday. God bless the man who invented drones.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Tai dila teer e USA, NATO, USSR o Taliban bija

God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Pashtuns everyday. God bless the man who invented drones.

This is a pashtun forum,And you should respect pashtuns.

God Bless Bush?really?and why are happy over the death's of pashtuns?

You should know that in Pakistan pashtun and Baloch are the closest.And love each other.

Delete your posts before you get banned.and behave as the forum rules since its a pashtun forum