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  • #61
    how did you meet 47 families that have joined tableeghs, then taliban? were you doing a survey?
    some of the muslims complaints i read, against this group, is that they are too passive and don't fight for muslims rights, against western imperialism and mistreatment.
    Last edited by faye; 01-23-2013, 07:34 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Killzai View Post
      pregda marra hagha yaw hindu jatt dey

      luffy pe rikhtya hets na pohege

      da jattan derr shawee de ka za bala da
      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
        The in depth analysis of Tableeghi Jumaat is very much appreciated and is the dire need of the hour. I personally think that Tableeghis are some times worse than Taliban as what Taliban do is explicit to every one and reaction against Taliban is always clear but Tableeghis are silent killers. They are expert in slow poisoning. They are extremely dangerous group. Tableeghis are like termites destroying the fabric of society especially Pashtun society from the roots pushing them in stone age. Tableeghis in their disguise are hoodwinking many Muslims and non Muslims and as mentioned above even Israel also allow them to practise their propagation. Many countries issue visas to them because like many here they think that Tableeghis are peaceful but many are unaware that because of Tableeghis the society becomes radicalized and ready to receive and flourish extremists and terrorists. Tableeghis have an excellent strategy that without inviting the anger and opposition of others exterminate the very roots of a modern society. We should not worry about few members here who oppose any creative effort like deep analysis of Tableeghi Jumaat. Many others on net can benifit out of innovative and analytical analysis of Pashtun soceity and those who are adamant on extirpation of Pashtun society and hampering their progress and development.
        I agree with you that they are "silent killers" of pashtun nationalism and pashtun society. Moreover for them progress, development and modernism are just "wordly" affairs, to which one should not give importance and should only care about preparation for "akhirat". They tell students that this school and college education would be of no use in akhirat. Many hardworking and ambitious young student got spoiled, stopped taking interest in studies due to "hard work" of tablighis. I would give you example, they dont consider doctory as service of islam, for them it should'nt be a priority. They simply dont understand that islam covers all aspect of life. Because of their regressive thoughts and their innovations/bidat suspision, i stopped participating in their activities.

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        • #64
          Also few years ago, abdul wahab, chief of tablighi jamaat, issued an order that in KPK people must give bayan in urdu, not in pashto. On critcism he took it back as most of the rural pashtuns cant properly communicate in urdu. But still today a pashtun tablighi give tabligh to another pashtun in urdu.

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          • #65
            that movement is for cowards who know that they are unable to face the problems of today and run away hiding behind deen , so they can explain their own misery , and justify it and accept it .

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Luffy View Post
              I agree with you that they are "silent killers" of pashtun nationalism and pashtun society. Moreover for them progress, development and modernism are just "wordly" affairs, to which one should not give importance and should only care about preparation for "akhirat". They tell students that this school and college education would be of no use in akhirat. Many hardworking and ambitious young student got spoiled, stopped taking interest in studies due to "hard work" of tablighis. I would give you example, they dont consider doctory as service of islam, for them it should'nt be a priority. They simply dont understand that islam covers all aspect of life. Because of their regressive thoughts and their innovations/bidat suspision, i stopped participating in their activities.
              But I have not seen a single tableeghi person who has stopped his child from going to school or college. What they empesize on a balanced life between deen and dunya. The whole world is going in materialism and worldly things so whats wrong if they tell people to not go too much in material world. They do not force you to give up your activities but they give you a path and environment where you can make your life balancedthen its up to you how do you take their message and apply it on yourself.
              They do not have a hidden agenda... they are very simple people but very hardworking, patient and committed to their task.
              another importan thing to mention is that they do not represent any university or to issue any education policy in the country. they are religious guys so they will ofcourse promote their religios education. it is govt's job to to make education policy and implement it properly. if tableeghis came in their way then you can blame them for being against education and progress. Though most of the tablighees are educated businessmen and quite gentle people of the socity unlike other rascals, dammaa and corrupts.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                that movement is for cowards who know that they are unable to face the problems of today and run away hiding behind deen , so they can explain their own misery , and justify it and accept it .
                lol
                you munapig

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Killzai View Post
                  pregda marra hagha yaw hindu jatt dey

                  luffy pe rikhtya hets na pohege
                  har jatt aw jula os da pukhto khaberey kayee.
                  sam khra dee.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                    I agree with you that they are "silent killers" of pashtun nationalism
                    from islamic perspective that is a great thing.Nationalism is not allowd in islam and Pashtun nationalism is an oxymoron.
                    May Allah reward them for helping Pashtuns.


                    Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                    and pashtun society.
                    wrong
                    you fakeshtun nationalists dont represent the Islamic Pashtun society.
                    you are trying to undermine it.So it is you who is the one trying to corrupt the Muslim=Pashtun society.


                    Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                    Moreover for them progress, development and modernism are just "wordly" affairs, to which one should not give importance and should only care about preparation for "akhirat". They tell students that this school and college education would be of no use in akhirat. Many hardworking and ambitious young student got spoiled, stopped taking interest in studies due to "hard work" of tablighis. I would give you example, they dont consider doctory as service of islam, for them it should'nt be a priority. They simply dont understand that islam covers all aspect of life. Because of their regressive thoughts and their innovations/bidat suspision, i stopped participating in their activities.
                    the rest fo your post is just typical of a fakeshtunnationalistpakinationalist lies to make a case against the ones who are trying to help Pashtun get rid of corruption.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by ډګروال View Post
                      har jatt aw jula os da pukhto khaberey kayee.
                      sam khra dee.
                      jat aw jula sa wee?? Last I checked, a bunch of you were boasting about how Muslims are better than Hindus because as Muslims, we don't believe in casts. Maybe you don't believe in that system but you are just using the terms to insult someone. Is that right??

                      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                        how is your parchamai daddy doing on wellfare in holland ?



                        Yeah age 14 my a-s-s

                        درکی خارښت لګیدلی دی
                        چرته ورشه په کوم چا ځان یخ که
                        بدلون هم ستا په شانتی دی
                        هغی باندی ځان یخ که
                        ستاسو دواړو خارښ ډیر شوی دی
                        Last edited by ډګروال; 01-24-2013, 12:25 PM.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                          jat aw jula sa wee?? Last I checked, a bunch of you were boasting about how Muslims are better than Hindus because as Muslims, we don't believe in casts. Maybe you don't believe in that system but you are just using the terms to insult someone. Is that right??
                          learned it from you ms jola

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                          • #73
                            I said it to see who would call me on it. Not only did you not correct me, you adapted it and are using it on others. Why?? Is it because you can't tell that it's wrong and are just looking for an excuse to make yourself look good or because you actually believe in it??


                            Here is a lighter. Set yourself on fire...

                            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                              I said it to see who would call me on it. Not only did you not correct me, you adapted it and are using it on others. Why?? Is it because you can't tell that it's wrong and are just looking for an excuse to make yourself look good or because you actually believe in it??


                              Here is a lighter. Set yourself on fire...
                              im not a hindu

                              and saying jatt aw jola is very normal thing to say.
                              jatt aw jola is refered to sort of peoplesuch as luffy.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by ډګروال View Post
                                im not a hindu and saying jatt aw jola is very normal thing to say. jatt aw jola is refered to sort of peoplesuch as luffy.
                                what is jola? So i am your new evil kafir/hindu villian, sorry i am not going to entertain you.

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