Indian ambitions in Afghanistan and designs against Pakistan

[Millatpal Noorzai]

Millat Pala manam darsra khu da AJMAL BABA GELA nazam

da Awrdalay maga wakht wu chay halta warta yu Sarey oyal pa jarga

ka chay ta zmung Mashar na ya.........

Zka Baba warta oyal chay

STA DA Khan baba Pa kor ka Zar Ambar wi
Zma BAchey khwar awo zar wi...

zma youtube ka chanel ka Video ka dga Poem shta..

Apridaya wrora hagha nazam me awredalai dai da Alam Yousafzi pa zhagh ki.
Hagha nazam da Afghanistan pa bara ki na dai balke da begum naseem wali khan aw Khan wali Khan pa bara ki dai.
Sa wakht chi Wali Khan aw Asfandyar Awami National Party khpal jageer wagarzawal aw Ajmal Khattak ta ya wayal chi ta zmozh mashar na ya no Ajmal khattak hagha nazam wayalai woo aw bya ya NATIONAL AWAMI PARTY jorra kral chi mashar ya Ajmal Khattak so.
La bada margha NAP domra zyaat wakht wa na chaledal.

[Nadir Shah]

As I have seen and read here, many of the Nationalists here are quite Xenophobic and extreme, to the level that is really unfortunate and sad.

There is a reason why the majority wont support it. It is because of these extremist fanatic variety of the Nationalists.

Please point out the things that you consider xenophobic and fanatic, and please provide alternatives to the said xenophobic/fanatic mindsets.

[khyaal]

Since Pashtun/afghans didn't belong to Indian subcontinent, they refused to join either India or Pakistan and instead they demanded for an Independent Pashtun land "Pashutnistan".

On 21 June 1947 the famous Banu Resolution was passed. But the British refused to accept it and deprived the elected provincial assembly (which enjoyed 2/3 majority, 37 seats out of 50) even of its right to have its decision recorded and instead the British- Muslim League nesxus arranged a fake referendum (since then Pakistan has a history of such fake referendums).

Here is a copy of the Banu Resolution in which all Pashtun notalbles and member of parliament participated and voted for independent Pashtunistan.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

Please point out the things that you consider xenophobic and fanatic, and please provide alternatives to the said xenophobic/fanatic mindsets.

I have made a thread about it. Give it a read if you must, but debating such short comings of people doesnt achieve any good.

[Nadir Shah]

I have made a thread about it. Give it a read if you must, but debating such short comings of people doesnt achieve any good.

No, not indeed. I merely wanted to seek your opinion as what constitutes xenophobia and fanaticism.

[r3alist]

Nationalism, as we see it, does not mean that we envision dominance for our nation and servitude and depreviation for others. We acknowledge that our Pashtun Millat has been forced into a corner and is in a position not worthy of it's potential. Nationalism is an ideology which we seek to employ to make our nationa equal to other prosperous, moderate and developed nations.

Nationalism is not always xenophobic, although in certain cases (the extreme) one it can reach it.

i dont get this attempt at a compromise - if you want ethnic nationalism (which you guys sound like you do) then what does ethnicity matter?

according to my understanding islam does not favour strong ethnic nationalism =
- or strong ethnic loyalty because it can contradict islamic brotherhood, now i know what your response to this is (self interest, looking after yourself etc etc) but i am not quite following how you can be so ethnically natinalistic yet also purely islamic aswell

[BLS_1919v2.0]

i dont get this attempt at a compromise - if you want ethnic nationalism (which you guys sound like you do) then what does ethnicity matter?

according to my understanding islam does not favour strong ethnic nationalism =
- or strong ethnic loyalty because it can contradict islamic brotherhood, now i know what your response to this is (self interest, looking after yourself etc etc) but i am not quite following how you can be so ethnically natinalistic yet also purely islamic aswell

Because you are looking at it the wrong way. We have the right the defend our people, our language and our identity. Once we can secure that, we don`t really see the need to impose such things. After that we can worry about other issues.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

Realist,
We are Islamic but we are tired of being discriminated against in Pakistan. All we ask for is our land to under our names in which we speak our language.

do you have a problem with that?

I dont understand?? I thought I was an Afghan, living in Khyber, brought up speaking Pukhto, in Pukhto culture, speaking it in schools, with colleges, Academies to PhDs of Pukhto.

Since when did things turn into Palestine Jasmine?? or are we living in a different reality here!!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I dont understand?? I thought I was an Afghan, living in Khyber, brought up speaking Pukhto, in Pukhto culture, speaking it in schools, with colleges, Academies to PhDs of Pukhto.

Since when did things turn into Palestine Jasmine?? or are we living in a different reality here!!

Which school did you go to? In our schools we were double fined. In terms of Palestine like situation, you should see the camps and the situation where the operations are happening.

[Army of Pakistan]

Realist,
We are Islamic but we are tired of being discriminated against in Pakistan. All we ask for is our land to under our names in which we speak our language.

do you have a problem with that?

You have to realize that what you ask you will not receive. It will NEVER happen.

If you were being discriminated against then why after the 2001 U.S. invasion in Afghanistan did Afghans run to Pakistan for shelter and care? Pakistan could have just said no.

It appears you have become susceptible to ridiculous arguments by ethno-nationalists. You've chosen the wrong side. Whatever struggle you think you are engaging in, it will will be a never ending struggle that will always FAIL.

[khyaal]

I dont understand?? I thought I was an Afghan, living in Khyber, brought up speaking Pukhto, in Pukhto culture, speaking it in schools, with colleges, Academies to PhDs of Pukhto.

No, you are no more afghan or Pashtun. Now you have a false and fabricated identity manufactured by the Punjabi/Pakistani state in which you have a different language, i.e., Urdu, you have different history traced back to Sir Sayed, Iqbal and Jinnah as leaders, as your role models, a different culture called Pakisani or Punjabi culture etc.

[muhsina]

You have to realize that what you ask you will not receive. It will NEVER happen.

If you were being discriminated against then why after the 2001 U.S. invasion in Afghanistan did Afghans run to Pakistan for shelter and care? Pakistan could have just said no.

It appears you have become susceptible to ridiculous arguments by ethno-nationalists. You've chosen the wrong side. Whatever struggle you think you are engaging in, it will will be a never ending struggle that will always FAIL.

Did the struggle of Bengalis fail? You are brain washed by the concocted history of Muatalia Pakistan.

[muhsina]

It was Pakhtunkhwa which welcomed the brothers and sisters and it was the Punjabi military elite of Islamabad which pocketed the millions of dollars aid granted by the world community for Afghans.

Pakistan progressed at the cost of Afghan blood which they sold out as well as spilt to fulfill their filthy and nefarious designs ,for which they are facing the music in the form of suicide bombs now hitting Lahore too.

[Army of Pakistan]

Did the struggle of Bengalis fail? You are brain washed by the concocted history of Muatalia Pakistan.

Yes it did fail. Look at the current situation in Bangladesh. India is working to make it a desert. Bangladesh is the poorest country in the world. India is pushing them around and dominating them as they please. How they did not heed the wise words of Jinnah.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Yes it did fail. Look at the current situation in Bangladesh. India is working to make it a desert. Bangladesh is the poorest country in the world. India is pushing them around and dominating them as they please. How they did not heed the wise words of Jinnah.

Where are the links to back this up?