Students Oppose Re-naming University to Ustad Rabbani University

[ډګروال]

so then the taliban were wrong for fighting and killing their members?

when taliban came to the seen they simply dropped their ambitions or joined them.

they were still active in kunar.

[randolph85]

when taliban came to the seen they simply dropped their ambitions or joined them.

they were still active in kunar.

i am not talking about the history because i know the history. i am talking about this pious hezb that you are defending and what you think about the taliban fighting them because they saw them as part of the problem in afg. if hekmatyar lead a good group, then he wouldn't of been exiled to iran, amirite?

[ډګروال]

i am not talking about the history because i know the history. i am talking about this pious hezb that you are defending and what you think about the taliban fighting them because they saw them as part of the problem in afg. if hekmatyar lead a good group, then he wouldn't of been exiled to iran, amirite?

like i previously said i dont care about hezb and i thought you were the one who defended them in the past and said they were the right resistance,anyway.

i didnt say his group was the good group ,all i said was his men didnt treate civilians bad.

taliabn obviously didnt liek him because he was involved int he civil war.
than again like i said his group was left to hang around kunar ...............................

[randolph85]

like i previously said i dont care about hezb and i thought you were the one who defended them in the past and said they were the right resistance,anyway.

i didnt say his group was the good group ,all i said was his men didnt treate civilians bad.

taliabn obviously didnt liek him because he was involved int he civil war.
than again like i said his group was left to hang around kunar ...............................

i have defended hezb ideology like i have jamiat but in practice they are all trash. i only support the hezb in the karzai government because they are the influence that is opposed the northern alliance voices in karzais ear.

[khushal]

that is a cop out and you know it. the title of the commander of the faithful is a powerful and very symbolic one, its not a passive thing. very few in the past have claimed this title and the ones who did were ego maniacs that thought of themselves the literal meaning of the title. also, i still want to know your thoughts on the likes of khalis and haqqani being a part of rabbanis government.

What cop out? His title was commander of the faithful of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

What does khalis and haqani have to do with the conversation of whether rabani was the worst of the worst. I just proved to you that rabani was the chief cause of the ethnic hatred that exists today and the destruction of afghanistan. He was an ethnofacist piece of shyt that was worse than najib.

[khushal]

you are mixing things to make yourself sound correct but thats not how the world world works.
how is living in Afghanistan got nothing to do with it.
you are again using faulty logic here,if you were living in amreeka at the time you most likely had another picture than what was going on on the ground.
and no i wasnt hinting at that,that is just you walking ahead of your steps.
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Its called strawman fallacy. He is trying to divert the orginal argument in to a new argument that is easily defendable.

[randolph85]

What cop out? His title was commander of the faithful of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

What does khalis and haqani have to do with the conversation of whether rabani was the worst of the worst. I just proved to you that rabani was the chief cause of the ethnic hatred that exists today and the destruction of afghanistan. He was an ethnofacist piece of shyt that was worse than najib.

you say rabbani was the worst of the worst, worse than the commies and yet its taboo to talk about communists joining the mujahadin for their supporters. so what does that make the taliban if they had followers of the worst of the worst join them when they jumped from the sinking ship of the rabbani government?

this is afghanistan we are talking about, there is ethnic animosity but there is not ethnic hatred. rabbani was allied with pashtuns and hekmatyar was allied with hazaras, with the uzbeks being the wild card.

his death only served to make the anti afghanistan/pro federalists stronger as karzai had the likes of fahim and rabbani in his camp.

[khushal]

you say rabbani was the worst of the worst, worse than the commies and yet its taboo to talk about communists joining the mujahadin for their supporters. so what does that make the taliban if they had followers of the worst of the worst join them when they jumped from the sinking ship of the rabbani government?

this is afghanistan we are talking about, there is ethnic animosity but there is not ethnic hatred. rabbani was allied with pashtuns and hekmatyar was allied with hazaras, with the uzbeks being the wild card.

his death only served to make the anti afghanistan/pro federalists stronger as karzai had the likes of fahim and rabbani in his camp.

your bringing in khalis and haqani who were never communists. those alliance you talk about were alliances of convenience the way the russians and americans were allies during WW2 against a common foe at a particular time plus the groups did not have good central leadership. You had commanders that were loyal to one group one day and another group another day depending on who they benifited from on that day.
But again, all that was the cause of chaos which Rabani caused by violating the agreement and refused to step down. And he was no ikhwani as you claim. His goal was not to create a government of Islamic values, his goal was to create a government dominated by his own ethnicity. He was not an ideologist, he was an ethnofacist.

[JAMALUDEEN]

What a joke...

[randolph85]

your bringing in khalis and haqani who were never communists. those alliance you talk about were alliances of convenience the way the russians and americans were allies during WW2 against a common foe at a particular time plus the groups did not have good central leadership. You had commanders that were loyal to one group one day and another group another day depending on who they benifited from on that day.
But again, all that was the cause of chaos which Rabani caused by violating the agreement and refused to step down. And he was no ikhwani as you claim. His goal was not to create a government of Islamic values, his goal was to create a government dominated by his own ethnicity. He was not an ideologist, he was an ethnofacist.

neither were najib and company communists or karzai and co democrats, it was simply hanging on the coat tails of the people who could bring them power and were/are themselves alliances of convenience. if rabbani is worse than najib and others, does that make a communist commander better than the likes of haqqani who allied himself with rabbanis ethnofacist government as you put it? would this not be a stain on the taliban movement that they have someone worse than a communist high up in their ranks?