Pashtun Awakening: Defeat the Taliban by Changing the Narrative

[faye]

and i thpought you were going to neglect me, darling.

[Azmal]

polling station is a new method of an old system. besides that why does the government hold loya jirgas every so often if pashtunwali is dead. The current government has no merit because they need a foreign army to protect itself.

I see your panicking again because you have been proved wrong. Answer the question, Why was Zahir shah or his kin not installed as kin since you say pashtunwali promotes lineage to rule.

It was the initial plan…Khalilzad and most of Pashtuns did push for constitution monarch system, only to be faced with furious opposition from Northern thugs…I even remember representative of Loy Paktiya, offering their services “install his majesty as king, just as we did with your father.” <---Exactly words…only to be refused by his Grace on ground that Afghanistan had enough bloodshed.

[Toramana]

It was the initial plan…Khalilzad and most of Pashtuns did push for constitution monarch system, only to be faced with furious opposition from Northern thugs…I even remember representative of Loy Paktiya, offering their services “install his majesty as king, just as we did with your father.” <---Exactly words…only to be refused by his Grace on ground that Afghanistan had enough bloodshed.

Khushal is just another Akhwani high on Pan-Islam opium --- believe me---

[khushal]

It was the initial plan…Khalilzad and most of Pashtuns did push for constitution monarch system, only to be faced with furious opposition from Northern thugs…I even remember representative of Loy Paktiya, offering their services “install his majesty as king, just as we did with your father.” <---Exactly words…only to be refused by his Grace on ground that Afghanistan had enough bloodshed.

As*mule, nice for you to drop by.
Like the northern thugs had any decision making over the US or Zahir Shah was sincere in rejecting the propsal. The guy was a wimp, he never led Afghansitan because he couldnt. His cousin and uncle were the real rulers and they are dead.
And if the Nrothern Thugs had any decsion making power, why did they even let a pashtun like Karzai in Kabul.

[khushal]

Khushal is just another Akhwani high on Pan-Islam opium --- believe me---

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[RevolutionThroughReason]

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[RevolutionThroughReason]

Quick faggot2010, thank my post, maybe it will make it have more merit when you thank it

[RevolutionThroughReason]

but its the truth, you have not been there that is why you are spitting out nonsense. You make no sense. you think afghanistan is like america where there is a court system and police pressence everywhere. you didnt even know what a masher was.

What? hahaha ....Darwesh confirmed that Mashers were Khans and vice versa

truth is truth whether I have been there or not (and I have been there); you think Afghanistan is some ISI concocted wet dream where everyone rugged warrior who hate having governments except for Pakistan of course

clown

[Darweshkhel]

If the afghans want the Taliban, it is their choice, and if the Afghans dont want the Taliban, then they have to put up the fight and take them out and beleive me the afghans arent afraid of a fight.

come on man, you cant be serious. taleban burn schools my brother, a proxy that is being controlled und harbored by a foe, an inveterate enemy and its major political goal is to keep AFG on its knees so we aint able to take Pashtunkhwa back. you cant ignore that.
they want to ban books so we cant get access to information, wont be able to read or write until we never care for nothing. our children will never get an education, they wont be doctors or ingeneers, they will all be mullas. they punish our women but in pashtunwali its our namus, they keep the region unsafe so we cant have access to medicine, they say its not islamic to visit doctors. they want to teach us about Islam now but its mahmud ghaznawi and loy ahmad baba who were ghaziyan and spread Islam amongst them when they were hindus. they want to control our children and raise them the way THEY want. what else? they burn our watan, da de mong khawra da, da ba mo satu. nikagan mo shahidan wu, pa sro wino da watan ye di satali, da dey warta loy peighor. mashum dunya bande laka naway gul dey gulistan ki. ka palel de baghwan ne wi, dey ba wi khodruya. ka awlad be tarbiya si, da tor dagh par plar ao mor dey. I love pashtunwali but we have to unify so we can stand up. de khushal tura tar mla ka ao ahmad shah baba ra yad ka!

[Darweshkhel]

What? hahaha ....Darwesh confirmed that Mashers were Khans and vice versa

in some areas, yes. mostly in plains. in south and west pashtunwali has changed. there are several reasons for that. pashtunwali varies with the territory but its more determinate on the hillside.

still you left out the important part of my alias but no harm meant;-)

[khushal]

come on man, you cant be serious. taleban burn schools my brother, a proxy that is being controlled und harbored by a foe, an inveterate enemy and its major political goal is to keep AFG on its knees so we aint able to take Pashtunkhwa back. you cant ignore that.
they want to ban books so we cant get access to information, wont be able to read or write until we never care for nothing. our children will never get an education, they wont be doctors or ingeneers, they will all be mullas. they punish our women but in pashtunwali its our namus, they keep the region unsafe so we cant have access to medicine, they say its not islamic to visit doctors. they want to teach us about Islam now but its mahmud ghaznawi and loy ahmad baba who were ghaziyan and spread Islam amongst them when they were hindus. they want to control our children and raise them the way THEY want. what else? they burn our watan, da de mong khawra da, da ba mo satu. nikagan mo shahidan wu, pa sro wino da watan ye di satali, da dey warta loy peighor. mashum dunya bande laka naway gul dey gulistan ki. ka palel de baghwan ne wi, dey ba wi khodruya. ka awlad be tarbiya si, da tor dagh par plar ao mor dey. I love pashtunwali but we have to unify so we can stand up. de khushal tura tar mla ka ao ahmad shah baba ra yad ka!

My point of that post was that the taliban can not be defeated or forced to change their extremist policies as long as there are foreign troops on the ground. The reason they have strength is because of the foreign troops.
I am not one of those that beleives that the ISI is capable of defeating a power like the US in afghanistan when the ISI cant even wrestle Kashmir from a nopbody like India.

[khushal]

in some areas, yes. mostly in plains. in south and west pashtunwali has changed. there are several reasons for that. pashtunwali varies with the territory but its more determinate on the hillside.

still you left out the important part of my alias but no harm meant;-)

It is impossible for the hillside to have "Khans." You need alot of flatland to have Khans that is why we in the hillside have Mashers. When a person gets rich on the plains, he aquires more land and with it more servants or workers under him. When a person in the hils get rich, he moves away from it and goes to the plain. That is why the hillside will always be tribal and the plains evolve into a "feudal" economy and eventually into an industrial economy. Most people in the plains dont practice pashtunwali because it is not practical but it will be close to impossible for it to dissapear from the hillside anytime soon because it is more practical there.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

hahaha Khushal looks like it's you who's never set foot in Afghanistan since darwesh has schooled you on your bogus narrative

[khushal]

What narrative? and he is schooling you not me.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

. Most people in the plains dont practice pashtunwali because it is not practical but it will be close to impossible for it to dissapear from the hillside anytime soon because it is more practical there.

you just got ****ing owned hard ./..and what's this "plains have mashers and flatland have khans" nonsense .....sounds like something you made up

geological topography has little to do with tribal social structures in Afghanistan.