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so how did the taliban ruling fit with pashtunwali, khushal? i get the impression that pashtuns are supposedly independent, don't like to be controlled by others, love music and dance. doesn't seem to fit with talbanisation to me. yet you appear to be very defensive on the talibans behalf.
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I think its all about the "nature" and stuff, only khushal understands this natural proces we are to dum to understan LOL.Originally posted by faye View PostComment
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That's right you are more than only dum....you should learn understanding the English language (even with my poor English can tell you this).High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.
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Originally posted by khushal View Post
Strawman; I never said anything about changing identity, just abandon ridiculously counter productive and stupid parts; namely Pashtunwali.
It's only "natural" that such failed systems will get tossed to the wayside[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.Comment
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Originally posted by khushal View Post
any system which applies organized civil order to carry out problem solving.
like what's been done here.[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.Comment
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pashtunwali does work, even in todays world...
and most of what you guys name on here is total bull****.. that is not pashtunwali... i think whoever says pashtunwali doesnt work,,, just dont know how to apply it in their life.. tell me what part of pashtunwali doesnt work??
>>melmastia, nang, namus, ext u tell me because really i have no clue why for so many pages there has been bickering over this>>>
even a talib.. those infidels have ruined the pure name of a talib,,, in not talking about americans or russian.. ext im talking about afghans and pakis.. have ruined a pure name of a talib..
lets not be ignorant here..Last edited by Pisho; 09-22-2012, 01:37 PM.Comment
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And anyways ppl can say whatever they want it doesnt mean others r gonna stop following pashtunwAliComment
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If pashtunwali was not an organized civil order, it would have been tossed aside thousands of years ago. Because it is, it still survives.Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
What has been done here? Why are they hiding? An organized civil order does not need to hide.Comment
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Originally posted by khushal View Post
Well that's the thing about obsolescence, something may be appropriate "years ago" which after newer more practical knowledge arises no longer is useful.
that's why it's called Obsolete; apparently you have a hard time grasping the concept..[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.Comment
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what was the religious beliefs of pashtun, pre islam?Comment
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The Taliban actually were doing away with the more harsh parts of pashtunwali. They didint just say this part or that part is illegal like the afghan government does, they actually did something about it that was successful. For example when a murder was committed, before a "badi"(a dispute between families over murder which usually is a tit for tat murder back and forth) would start between families, they would themsleves take care of the murderer and prevent the badi in the families. This also prevented "swara"(the giving of a female for the compensation of the murder).Originally posted by faye View Post
Instead of challenging the peoples culture head on, they would work within the culure. Mind you I am talking about the Taliban of the 90's. The Taliban of today has everyone(drug dealers, kidnapping gangs, extortion gangs) flying their flag and has no central leadership that can control anything.
This is not in defence of the Taliban. Its not for me or you or Obama to decide what is best for the Afghans, it is for the indegenous afghans that live there and their children grow up there to decide for themsleves what is best for them. If the afghans want the Taliban, it is their choice, and if the Afghans dont want the Taliban, then they have to put up the fight and take them out and beleive me the afghans arent afraid of a fight. The Taliban are afghan and if the afghans see them as a problem then it is an afghan problem and if the afghans see them as a solution than it is an afghan solution.
How would you like it Faye for the chinese to come to australia and tell you what is best for you. you would give them the middle finger.Comment
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But in this logic the world should undergo Revolution every 5 years, revultion in the direct sense. Abolishing everything from before - bacause the time changes and no system is adapted to that, also can no way of living generally function if people missuse it, that is a quiet spread issue.Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View PostԱ՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,
Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:
Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:Comment
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seriously khushal, you say some dumb things. of course i would love the chinese to came and tell us what to do, just like i would love your extremist brothers to.
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