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  • #16
    All this money America spent, if had actually been put to use for the country, you would have Pakistani, Indians, Iranians, and Central Asianistans flooding to the afghan job market. The NA messed up the chance of a lifetime.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Aryob View Post
      Conditions are better in Afghanistan than KPK. There's more business opportunities in Afghanistan than in KPK, there's more professional jobs in Kabul/Jalalabad/Herat and many other provinces than in KPK, there's more money than there is in KPK. Weather is a lot better, there's electricity and gas and life is getting a lot better than in KPK but Afghans who have lived in Pekhawar have no intention of leaving. I still have family and friends and they show no interest in moving back.
      I believe that is true. As the state structure is expanding in Afg and rebuilding work is gaining pace, there must be more opportunities. I hope it further expands in eastern and southern provinces where it has been slow due to Talebans.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Toramana View Post
        I believe that is true. As the state structure is expanding in Afg and rebuilding work is gaining pace, there must be more opportunities. I hope it further expands in eastern and southern provinces where it has been slow due to Talebans.
        There are oppotunities but its all controlled by corrupt gangsters, and its hard to actually rebuild anything because you have to payoff everyone. There is too many criminal elements in the country due to poor security.

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        • #19
          The only thing is that the mass populations of the Afghans are illiterate and uneducated. When they do business here they completely mess things up. However, they are great business men and great at trading things. They have ocupied KPK, Baluchistan, Karachi, Lahore and even Islamabad with their mass business. They have a great hold of these areas and are benefitting alot.

          As I said before, they are illiterate so the areas they work or do business are really dirty and unclean. I'd say give them proper education and bring all of them to Balochistan. A newly separated country in the future would definitely need these business men to make it economically and structurally strong. lol
          جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
          G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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          • #20
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            There are oppotunities but its all controlled by corrupt gangsters, and its hard to actually rebuild anything because you have to payoff everyone. There is too many criminal elements in the country due to poor security.
            I don't understand how you make this comparison between Afghanistan and Pakistan these days. Pakistan is a fairytale right now. Yes you've electricity poles erected all over Pakistan but does everyone have electricity in the big cities these days? You don't have power for more than 15 hours a day. You've adopted the old Afghan culture of using power generators, candles and lantern that Afghans used to use until 10 years ago. Your economy is crippled, your hospitals are big business centers for the rich. Your police stations are centers for rape, murder and drug dealing. How dare you compare that ****hole with the current Afghanistan. Your government is literally controlled in the white house, your decisions are made by the US congressmen, you get regular funding from the US. The IMF and World Bank have put chains around your neck by giving you all the funding in form of LOAN. Afghanistan government is smart enough to convert loan into donation. There may be criminals in Afghanistan and low security but Pakistan is the worst place on the planet to live.
            Last edited by Aryob; 08-28-2012, 01:36 AM.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
              The only thing is that the mass populations of the Afghans are illiterate and uneducated. When they do business here they completely mess things up.
              Here comes another victim of Pakistani propaganda curriculum. Uneducated??? Is there such a term in the dictionaries?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                All this money America spent, if had actually been put to use for the country, you would have Pakistani, Indians, Iranians, and Central Asianistans flooding to the afghan job market. The NA messed up the chance of a lifetime.
                Hati pa ghwag ke oda ye andiwala. Go to kabul and you'll actually see Indians, Pakistanis, Iranians, Bangladeshis, Turks and Arabs working in Afghanistan. Do you have any idea how many Pakistanis are employed in Kabul only? All telecommunication companies have employed thousands of Indians and Bangladeshis.
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                • #23
                  ^^Im afghan not pakistani. I dont know if you were responding to me or the baluch guy.

                  But actually Kabul residents have more electric power access than any city in pakistan. The No. 1 problem in Afghanistan is the security and it lacks that because of the corruption. If the corruption was under control and proper representation was intiated, the taliban would just be a nuisance.
                  Last edited by khushal; 08-28-2012, 01:45 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Aryob View Post
                    Hati pa ghwag ke oda ye andiwala. Go to kabul and you'll actually see Indians, Pakistanis, Iranians, Bangladeshis, Turks and Arabs working in Afghanistan. Do you have any idea how many Pakistanis are employed in Kabul only? All telecommunication companies have employed thousands of Indians and Bangladeshis.
                    I have been there. compare to how much money the americans spent, there is almost nothing to show for it. a few buildings here and there and a few roads poorly built is not too much to show for a trillion dollars spent.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
                      The only thing is that the mass populations of the Afghans are illiterate and uneducated. When they do business here they completely mess things up. However, they are great business men and great at trading things. They have ocupied KPK, Baluchistan, Karachi, Lahore and even Islamabad with their mass business. They have a great hold of these areas and are benefitting alot.

                      As I said before, they are illiterate so the areas they work or do business are really dirty and unclean. I'd say give them proper education and bring all of them to Balochistan. A newly separated country in the future would definitely need these business men to make it economically and structurally strong. lol
                      They built the madrassas for the afghans while the paksitani were going to proper schools.

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                      • #26
                        They built the madrassas for the afghans while the paksitani were going to proper schools.
                        trust me , the pakis will make sure , that in no afghan school , the history of afghans is tought .

                        its also not tought now .


                        if people find out whose their enemies a century ago or two , they will change their opinions ....

                        there for we need madrassas , where the history of the sahaba is thought , and that all muslims are brothers and ............

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Aryob View Post
                          Here comes another victim of Pakistani propaganda curriculum. Uneducated??? Is there such a term in the dictionaries?
                          ROfl.
                          Before giving the derision of the idiom in the dictionaries go to Afghanistan and look at your school system, unreservedly smashed, shattered and exceedingly poor lacking vital school funds. Kids don’t have places to sit and are brainwashed ideologies. Teachers that edify are not educated themselves. It is a true verity that most Afghans or almost all are uneducated in their shoes. Most Afghans are uneducated tribes people; they are easy fodder for anyone. Kabul, the capital, has a university but few people will know of anything other than fear and apprehension. I can go on for hours, but I’ll spare my time since the end upshot of this argument would be really profligate.
                          جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                          G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                          • #28
                            ^^^everything you said could also be said about pakistan.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
                              ROfl.
                              Before giving the derision of the idiom in the dictionaries go to Afghanistan and look at your school system, unreservedly smashed, shattered and exceedingly poor lacking vital school funds. Kids don’t have places to sit and are brainwashed ideologies. Teachers that edify are not educated themselves. It is a true verity that most Afghans or almost all are uneducated in their shoes. Most Afghans are uneducated tribes people; they are easy fodder for anyone. Kabul, the capital, has a university but few people will know of anything other than fear and apprehension. I can go on for hours, but I’ll spare my time since the end upshot of this argument would be really profligate.
                              I still don't know what you mean by "uneducated" because these tradesmen that you are talking about are well "educated" in what they are doing. If you are talking about literacy, reading & writing skills, that is a separate thing.
                              Everything you said is such a stereotypical approach of a Pakistani about Afghans, yet you don't wanna call yourself a Pakistani. Everything you said is such nonsense that I don't want to answer it, especially to a Baloch. To generalize something to a whole ethnicity and say that they are dirty and unclean, ummm I honestly don't know how to answer that. My mind doesn't work in the same level as yours. I come here to discuss issues and to reason. I don't type what I hear on the streets. Anyways, I respects Balochs and their movement.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Aryob View Post
                                I still don't know what you mean by "uneducated" because these tradesmen that you are talking about are well "educated" in what they are doing. If you are talking about literacy, reading & writing skills, that is a separate thing.
                                Everything you said is such a stereotypical approach of a Pakistani about Afghans, yet you don't wanna call yourself a Pakistani. Everything you said is such nonsense that I don't want to answer it, especially to a Baloch. To generalize something to a whole ethnicity and say that they are dirty and unclean, ummm I honestly don't know how to answer that. My mind doesn't work in the same level as yours. I come here to discuss issues and to reason. I don't type what I hear on the streets. Anyways, I respects Balochs and their movement.
                                Let me be brief. By “uneducated” I connote the literacy pace. Before replying to what I’m saying go back and see what distinctively I wrote. I’m observably referring about literacy and how most Afghans require proper education to surpass their way to make a proper trading/business scheme. This mislaid building block of schooling will not only make them super tradesmen but will also make them take futuristic innovative steps to have an improved life, a enhanced job and a superior lifestyle. Most Punjabis decreeing the government administration are afraid that if these people know the art/trick of controlling mass businesses through proper education, they would take all over their Punjabi government just like how the British once did. The only thing that the British had and they don’t is the power of knowledge. The British were superior businessmen and tradesmen who possessed the quality of knowledge and were able to easily play tricks to divide a country, to unite a country or take over a country. If you don’t know how to answer me, then don’t answer me, simple as that. It’s ridiculous that you’re posting and saying “I don’t know how to answer that”. Uneducated only refers to the literacy pace not trading or business skills; those are called ways, tactics or skills and not “education”, stop being an idiot. But I do believe that Afghans are tremendous tradesmen, if you go to Balochistan you’ll see massive amounts of children working in huge markets/shops and making money. These children will never negotiate lowering the prices; they will always stick to their original call. But they need education, just one step will make them (both Balochs/Pashtuns) super nations. I do respect you guys as well. But everyone is trash without education.

                                And when did I say that "the whole ethnicity is dirty and unclean" lol ??
                                Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 08-29-2012, 01:19 PM.
                                جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                                G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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