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    Michael O’Hanlon wants America to pick the next Afghan president:
    The stakes are huge. If a warlord or corrupt politician wins the presidency, aid will be wasted and Afghanistan’s economy — still dependent on billions in annual foreign aid, such as that pledged during Sunday’s donor conference in Tokyo — will regress. Improvements in citizens’ quality of life, such as dramatic increases in life expectancy, school enrollment and cell phone availability, are likely to be squandered. Worse, insurgents will have a rallying cry likely to resonate with millions of disaffected Afghans. Civil war could resume and, with it, control over large parts of the country could be lost to the Taliban and al-Qaeda.
    But if the next Afghan president can be an even moderately serious reformer, the most likely outcome will not be pretty but will be better than defeat.
    This is a strange position to advocate: everything will fail if a corrupt politician wins the election, but everything might not fail a little less if a “moderately serious reformer” wins. In case you wanted to know what a “moderately serious reformer” looks like, O’Hanlon doesn’t actually describe the reforms that would be necessary. He does, however, name-check the same three English-speaking candidates Americans salivated over in 2009: Atmar, Abdullah, and “economic wizard Ashraf Ghani”.
    None of those candidates drew broad appeal the last time around — not even Abdullah, who despite widespread support in the west still somehow wound up with hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes. The “wizard” Ashraf Ghani was widely hailed in western op-eds about the Afghan reformers who will save the day, but he finished in fourth place, losing even to a homeless man who campaigned from his car. That man, Ramzan Bashardost, actually won two provinces (Ghazni and Daikondi, where his Hazara heritage really helped)… but he doesn’t speak very much English so he doesn’t warrant a name-check from the Michael O’Hanlons of the world.
    So beyond not understanding the field (O’Hanlon couldn’t bring himself to mention Ali Ahmed Jalali, Afghanistan’s former interior minister and current faculty at the National Defense University, who is also running), O’Hanlon doesn’t even bother to say what “reform” entails. That is its own discussion — Afghanistan’s government needs serious reform, and no one argues with that — but the appeal of minority candidates who don’t enjoy strong national appeal means using them to accomplish any reform is, to put it very gently, an uphill battle.
    But there is a bigger problem with O’Hanlon’s article, and that is his apparent ease with the idea of “picking a winner.” O’Hanlon doesn’t seem to understand that “picking a winner” was the U.S. strategy in 2002. Picking a winner is why we’re stuck with corrupt, etc., Hamid Karzai. Karzai got the royal treatment in 2002: interviews on PBS, lauded at the State of the Union Address (“A lifelong Afghan nationalist”), the darling of every cocktail party and gathering around town for months.
    From 2002-2004, everyone loved Karzai. They all thought this supposedly non-corrupt, non-warlord Pashtun leader would unite the country, keep corruption at bay, and lead Afghanistan into the future.
    Of course that was nonsense. Karzai turned out to be just as venal, corrupt, and ineffective as every other leader of Afghanistan in recent decades because, as I explained for Foreign Policy two years ago, the institution of the presidency itself is broken. It is designed to not function normally:
    The problem with focusing on Karzai so much is it places the entire onus for success or failure on Karzai, the person, when the bigger problem is the institution of the presidency. Afghanistan has one of the most centralized governments in the world. Karzai is responsible for managing the performance of 34 provincial governors, 400 or so district sub-governors, and all their associated chiefs of police, to say nothing of competing constituencies in Kabul. He personally appoints all government officials down to district administrators, of which there are hundreds. It’s no wonder he is having trouble governing…
    Afghanistan does not have the benefit of strong institutions, so governance is based on relationships and patronage — trading favors, or appointments, for money. In the West, it is normally called corruption. In Afghanistan, though, corruption is, unfortunately, how the system works. Karzai could not have removed the warlord Ismail Khan from Herat in 2004, for instance, if he hadn’t offered Khan a ministerial position to compensate him for the loss of power and privilege. Nor could he have simply wished away Gul Agha Sherzai’s predatory rule of Kandahar without promising him power and money and influence elsewhere (in that case, the province of Nangarhar, where Sherzai is now governor). With only limited power to coerce his rivals, and moral suasion of limited value in a land ruled by ruthless, unsentimental men, corruption is just about the only tool an Afghan president has.
    Anyway, Michael O’Hanlon thinks we can change that by meddling in Afghanistan’s politics and picking a new, supposedly more effective and less corrupt, “winner.” Another Magical Pet Afghan! Good times.
    It’s funny, in 2002 when O’Hanlon was endorsing the war he called “masterful in both design and execution” and “one of the greater military successes of the twenty-first century” for Foreign Affairs he didn’t have these same concerns about Karzai. In fact, O’Hanlon doesn’t even mention Karzai in his writing about Afghanistan until 2008, when he endorses working with him as a means of providing enough troops for the war. Throughout 2008, O’Hanlon’s public statements about the war focused narrowly on the troops — his concern about the need for a reformist president (for Karzai was obviously, horribly, counterproductively corrupt in 2008) certainly didn’t inspire him to write of the dire need for a reformer in Kabul.
    In fact, it wasn’t until the 2009 election that O’Hanlon complained that corruption was “badly overlooked,” even though he was one of the media-ubiquitous “experts” who was overlooking it. But overlooking it is precisely the point.
    O’Hanlon’s latest scheme for the country — he’s had several, from masterpiece to throwing troops at the war to making policemen to, now, somehow divining which magical pet Afghan we should pick to solve all of our woes — is the heart of the problem of the American misadventure in Afghanistan. Those with high visibility platforms suggest ideas or endorse policies without considering their recent, failed pasts (remember “arm the tribes?”). And they are given credibility for this because of… well, I don’t really know.
    At the end of 2008, I was at a NATO conference on the future of Afghanistan. There, two DIA analysts insisted that the only way to maintain the good momentum we had in Afghanistan was to ensure that Hamid Karzai won the presidential election while also making sure it was free and fair so people accepted it. There were a lot of nodding heads with stars on their shoulders. The U.S. continues to think it can and should meddle in the politics of Afghanistan not because it is good at it, but because it has money and “interests” at play.
    That’s absolute madness. If history tells us anything it is that the U.S. is especially bad at meddling in Afghan politics. We just don’t get it. We are bad at it. We have been bad at it. We have never been good at picking a winner — we do it so inconsistently, I’m astonished that in 2012 such an idea is still being pushed like it’s the result of considered research.
    Investing all of our political eggs in a few slick “reformers” in Kabul is the worst thing the U.S. could possibly do. Some pro-western men in Kabul want American money for their presidential campaign? How surprising! The real problem driving corruption in Afghanistan is its broken institutions, not the personality of its president (remember: Kazai was widely believed in the west to not be corrupt in 2002-4). Focusing on the personalities of the candidates, as O’Hanlon does, ignores all the many challenges any of them would face in actually reforming the country — the other constituencies (including the Taliban), the extreme difficulty of actually reforming anything (Karzai tried to, for a while, before he gave up and went with a least-worst approach to running what he could), and the enormous political baggage we’d saddle any client with when our support inevitably becomes public.
    The only thing O’Hanlon’s proposed policy will get us is the same crappy situation, only with more culpability for America mixed in. And probably, given his other writing on the subject, a plea for more troops and more time, etc.
    Last thought. This is Michael O’Hanlon’s byline for the Washington Post op-ed: “Michael O’Hanlon is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. His most recent book is “Bending History: Barack Obama’s Foreign Policy,” which he co-authored with Martin Indyk and Kenneth Lieberthal.”
    Here is Michael O’Hanlon’s short biography for the Brookings Institution: “Michael O’Hanlon specializes in national security and defense policy and is senior author of the Iraq and Afghanistan Index, projects. Before joining Brookings, O’Hanlon worked as a national security analyst at the Congressional Budget Office. His current research agenda includes military strategy and technology, Northeast Asia, U.S. Central Command, and defense budgets, among other defense/security issues. O’Hanlon is a member of General David Petraeus’s External Advisory Board at the Central Intelligence Agency. His most recent books include The Wounded Giant (Penguin, 2012) and Bending History (Brookings, 2012).”
    See that bit I highlighted? O’Hanlon does not routinely disclose his status as an advisor to the CIA when he writes op-eds advocating various policy ideas. That’s why I titled this post, “CIA Advisor Advocates Meddling in Afghanistan’s Election.”
    Because that is precisely what is happening when O’Hanlon writes these articles. It is dishonest not to disclose his close professional and personal relationship with the Director of Central Intelligence, David Petraeus, and it is dishonest of the Washington Post not to disclose that relationship when it is publishing the opinion that the American government should interfere in another country’s politics and elections.
    It is difficult to overstate just how screwed up that really is, so instead I’ll stop before the cursing begins and blood shoots out from my eyes.
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

  • #2
    thats not a surprise

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    • #3
      Strategic interests. Not surprising at all.
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #4
        Ashraf Ghani and Atmar are both good enough to undergo Afghanistan a needed reform now. I will be happy if any become the president. Every one is sick of Karzai's most corrupt and traitorous government ever in the history of Afghanistan

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ComradePashtun
          Ashraf Ghani and Atmar are both good enough to undergo Afghanistan a needed reform now. I will be happy if any become the president. Every one is sick of Karzai's most corrupt and traitorous government in the history of Afghanistan.
          Its not karzai, its the system. The system has been build and no person can take it down. just look at pakistan, how many leaders have promised reform and how many have delivered.

          who are you fooling?

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          • #6
            What is with system Einstein? Can you elaborate please.

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            • #7
              the structure of the afghan government and the mechanism of what makes it function.

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              • #8
                Bashardost 100%.
                Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  the structure of the afghan government and the mechanism of what makes it function.
                  Don't come up with one liners literally meaning jack. Let me help; why do you think the system or structure of government is the problem instead? What type of system would you base your argument on there should've established post Taliban dispensation?

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                  • #10
                    what a freaking asshat
                    we can't even get the corruption & cheating out of our political system in the USA and he proposes we choose the Afghan president to clean up Afghan corruption.
                    mindboggling stupidity & arrogance

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tor Gul View Post
                      what a freaking asshat
                      we can't even get the corruption & cheating out of our political system in the USA and he proposes we choose the Afghan president to clean up Afghan corruption.
                      mindboggling stupidity & arrogance
                      Why do you sound surprised? What do you think the role of the spy agency is?
                      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                        Don't come up with one liners literally meaning jack. Let me help; why do you think the system or structure of government is the problem instead? What type of system would you base your argument on there should've established post Taliban dispensation?
                        If you are truly an afghan patriot, you should not allow foreigners to control afghan affairs to a point where their troops are protecting you. The NA and Karzai are traitors to their nation. If they wanted to topple the Taliban government, they should have done it themselves by rallying the people to their side, they should have been on the frontlines being examples as true patriots. If they wanted help from America, that would be fine as long as they don't allow American troops on their countries soil, that's treason.
                        Can you imagine George Washington asking for french troops on American soil against the Brits, he would have been hung by his own commanders.

                        But anyhow, Karzai coming on the back of foreign forces never had a chance. He wanted to make peace with the Taliban and the HIG back in 2002 but was prevented from doing so by his foreign masters. This mistake gave Pakistan hope of utilizing the disenfranchised Pashtuns against Kabul namely the HIG and the Taliban. He should have resigned immediatly in protest because if you want to make peace and progress, you cant snub anyone because that would force the marginalized population to seek help from foreign powers giving those foreign powers leverage against you.

                        I believe it is impossible for the current afghan economy to function without foreign investment or in the current case foreign aid. The afghan government should utilize its strategic location in exchange for foreign investment. Instead of being a beggar, it should force foreign powers to beg for a piece of the action.

                        First off, Afghanistan and Pakistan cant live without each other, either they have to destroy each other and have one consume the other or they have to cooperate with one another and live in a peaceful coexistence. I propose the latter and Daud came to that realization before he was killed. In exchange for accepting the Durand, Afghansitan should ask Pakistan to give it trading rights over its territory to India and have access to the Indian Ocean in exchange for acceptance. That way Afghanistan gets what it wants(access to the sea) and Pakistan gets what it wants(Afghanistan drop its rights to KP and FATA) If KP don't want to be part of Afghanistan by free will then Afghanistan has no right to force the issue and they should only be encouraged to forge cultural and economic ties.

                        The way the afghan government is set up now is similar to how Pakistan is set up. It can't function without corruption and foreign aid, that is the way its foreign masters want it so it stays a beggar for life. It is easier to control a hopeless beggar than one that controls its own destiny. Even Karzai has admitted that corruption came with the foreigners and that it is the foreigners fueling it.
                        At 3:40 "Its the contractual mechanism that the US applies in Afghanistan"



                        It is out of his and any other afghan control. They are not in charge.

                        Again I ask you, who are you trying to fool?

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                        • #13
                          Your way of debate and arguing your case is worse than some of the illogical Tali lovers here. Don't just rumble and do not make the debate the slightest personal with nonsense like "if you were real Afghan..." bullsh!t! This is a trick weak people use.

                          I made the comment about Ashraf Ghani and Atmar becoming the next president was in no relation to what is advocated by the CIA adviser or what ever he is. I in fact am strongly convinced the Karzai govt. by and of itself (regardless of your bluff of the system and structure which you still cannot explain what you mean) is responsible for being ineffective, corrupt and predatory. The reason I am for them is because they are technocrats and some one who could fix things in Afghanistan where the real problem is and that exactly would be proper governance, strengthening the institutions for a much better delivery for which it could, system of accountability across the government and curtailing the endemic corruption, and above all appointment of honest and capable people - meritocracy over dirty dealings.

                          Lets call spade a spade and if it wasn't for the foreign aid and presence, as you confirmed first above, people of Afghanistan would have been living in abject poverty, strife, regional domination, internecine war and conflict.

                          It is not about the way Afghan government is set-up that makes it corrupt it is who run the government are corrupt and ineffective. You still did not explain again what you mean by "the way the Afghan government is set up"? What is you alternative?

                          Investments don't just happen with a tip of the finger, Mr. Khushal. The type of investment that can overcome Afghanistan's enormous economic challenges would not come overnight and Afghanistan is still way off fulfilling the prerequisites for the big investment and by no means will be able to harness it alone without help from International community to meet the profile. Moreover, eradicating the absolute poverty in Afghanistan needs much more than just FDI etc. It needs alot of investment and expertise in many areas from agriculture, to infrastructure, education, health etc.

                          Do you know anything about economics and investment?

                          You are completely wrong about Afghanistan and Pakistan too and you surprise me to the extend that it is not even worth discussing it any further with you. What is wrong with you recently?

                          Karzai's comment about foreigners and corruption is just as misplaced as anything and pulling a wool on people's eyes. While there might be truth there, he needs to fix what is possible and he is responsible for within his own government first.

                          Straw man Khushal.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                            Why do you sound surprised? What do you think the role of the spy agency is?
                            Not surprised that he wants to do it, just that he said it out loud

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                              Your way of debate and arguing your case is worse than some of the illogical Tali lovers here. Don't just rumble and do not make the debate the slightest personal with nonsense like "if you were real Afghan..." bullsh!t! This is a trick weak people use.

                              I made the comment about Ashraf Ghani and Atmar becoming the next president was in no relation to what is advocated by the CIA adviser or what ever he is. I in fact am strongly convinced the Karzai govt. by and of itself (regardless of your bluff of the system and structure which you still cannot explain what you mean) is responsible for being ineffective, corrupt and predatory. The reason I am for them is because they are technocrats and some one who could fix things in Afghanistan where the real problem is and that exactly would be proper governance, strengthening the institutions for a much better delivery for which it could, system of accountability across the government and curtailing the endemic corruption, and above all appointment of honest and capable people - meritocracy over dirty dealings.

                              Lets call spade a spade and if it wasn't for the foreign aid and presence, as you confirmed first above, people of Afghanistan would have been living in abject poverty, strife, regional domination, internecine war and conflict.

                              It is not about the way Afghan government is set-up that makes it corrupt it is who run the government are corrupt and ineffective. You still did not explain again what you mean by "the way the Afghan government is set up"? What is you alternative?

                              Investments don't just happen with a tip of the finger, Mr. Khushal. The type of investment that can overcome Afghanistan's enormous economic challenges would not come overnight and Afghanistan is still way off fulfilling the prerequisites for the big investment and by no means will be able to harness it alone without help from International community to meet the profile. Moreover, eradicating the absolute poverty in Afghanistan needs much more than just FDI etc. It needs alot of investment and expertise in many areas from agriculture, to infrastructure, education, health etc.

                              Do you know anything about economics and investment?

                              You are completely wrong about Afghanistan and Pakistan too and you surprise me to the extend that it is not even worth discussing it any further with you. What is wrong with you recently?

                              Karzai's comment about foreigners and corruption is just as misplaced as anything and pulling a wool on people's eyes. While there might be truth there, he needs to fix what is possible and he is responsible for within his own government first.

                              Straw man Khushal.
                              Your arguing from a position where Afghans are in charge, I am arguing from a position that they are not. Also I believe that western afghans like ashraf ghani are not afghans, they are westerners who have no interest in building an independent Afghanistan. Their future and their childrens don't depend on an independent Afghanistan, on the contrary, it is more logical for them to build an Afghanistan that is a beggar because that is where their interests lie.

                              I propose that afghans run the show, only they have real interest because their future and their children's future depend on it.

                              I ask you to name one country where westerners have reduced corruption in a client nation.

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