The case for Pakhtunkhwa

[Shayesta]

Its now ours. If that's the case, The native Americans should also start complaning like you.

Who is stopping them?

We saved you from the communist regime. We did you a favor.

Even though we invited Russians to our country ourselves, which means we didn't want to fight them in first place? Wauwie, what a (unwanted) favour!

We wanted to save our Pashtuns from Tajiks, so we harbored them to defend the Pukhtun honor and we were successful cause look Afghanistan is still under Pukhtun control.

Even though a Pukhtoon called Dr. Mohammad Najibullah was already in charge of Afghanistan who was trying to modernize Afghanistan and at least during his era ethical hatred wasn't being fuelled by anyone? And if you sent us Taliban to help us Pukhtoons anyway, then may I know why it was again you who helped USA get Taliban out of Afghanistan and are now even fighting your own creation? And if it was indeed for our own interest then why were Pukhtoon provinces first provinces where education for women was banned? Why were Hazaras in Ghazni being attacked (by ISI assistance) even though they lived peacefully next to Pukhtoons? Moreover, our state right now is poorer than ever. Where is your so-called help NOW? Running short on US Dollars? And by the way, from which Tajiks were you 'trying' to defend us and why? Could you please elaborate?

We are lucky to have a neighbor like you as well.

And you should because if it wasn't for us Pukhtoons of Afghanistan, then other Afghan ethnics along with India would have taught your Pakistan a lesson you deserved a very long time ago.

We are on PashtunForums. other forums are invalid in a discussion. We are here, we debate here. Linking me to any forum is considered spamming so refrain from that miss. I dont care how an Afghan forum is badmouthing us. we Pukthuns are on Pukhtun forums look at the website address if you forgot where you are.

For empty-heads I repeat; Your Pakistanis started talking about Afghan Forums in first place and I only request them to prove what they say. If you guys can't prove anything then don't jump to Afghan Forums and making up lies with it as well.

[Shayesta]

1)that is Irrelevent.

Why? Because I don't mind them complaining about anything?

2)We cant let our Muslims across the borders become Kafirs, sorry, Allah will not like that.

Is it? Why only Muslims across the border, aren't all Muslims equal? Then what did you do to stop Kafir influence in Tajikistan? What did you do to stop Kafir influence in Uzbekistan? What did you do to stop Kafir influence in Azerbeijan? In fact, why did you take money from Kafir's since your creation to build your Nation?

3)How was Dr. Najib trying to modernize Afghanistan? What do you mean by modernize. Your state is not poor. you guys like a member said here has 1trillion only in geological reserves. sell your reserves and modernize your country. stop complaning and do something.

How did Punjab become modern? To whom did Punjab sell itself to be modern? If Islam is so important to you and you hate selling-out then why don't you try to close Hira Mandi where all Islamiyat is gone and women sell their bodies daily? Even if we want to sell our country, who on mother earth are you to interfere?

what are you doing to help your country besides sitting a nice ac room in whatever country you are.

LOL, nearly all men in my family are in Afghanistan to rebuild the areas they live in and even when we came to Pakistan our men stayed back in Afghanistan. But nice try anyway buddy, now what are YOU doing to improve state of Pakhtunkhwa?

4)Indians do not want you Pukhtuns in power. they support N.A which is Tajik,uzbek and etc.

Yeah, that's also the reason why Indians supported and respected Pukhtoons like Daud Khan, Zahir Shah, Mohammad Najibullah, etcetera. With morons like Taliban who put pressure on Afghan Hindus and Sikhs, can you even blame India for not supporting such Pukhtoons?

we supported you guys, you guys won and are still in power now.

By killing Daud Khan? By killing Mohammad Najibullah? By sending us Taliban 15 years ago and now kill them as well? And my, I didn't know you support Hamid Karzai who is being called Watanforosh by your Pakistanis! :O

5)no one cares about other forums. leave that out of this discussion.

I repeat for the last time; Make your Pakistanis (and for sake of smartness) and yourself understand this.

[Shayesta]

1) Because it just does not make sense.

Then why did you even mention it in first place? Is nonsense your job or what?

2)Turkemenistan does not effect pakistan like Afghanistan has, everythign that happens in pakistan has a direct effect on us.

I didn't even mention Turkmenistan but since you talk Islam then you should consider them all same, init? And how does Hira Mandi exactly effect you?

Stop putting all the blame on us. we lost 50billion dollars in this war and you are here complaning. stop..

Where did I put ALL the blame on you? You have your arguments and I have mine, are you putting all the blame on us as well? And you lost 50 million Dollars NOW, but you got billions of Dollars when we came to refugees. We lost three million lives so far. We lost our universities, museums, statues, respect, we actually lost everything. You hold yourself eligible to complain for your pathetic 50 millions Dollars and tell us to stop after whatever WE have lost?

3)Punjab became modern cause they worked hard for it. Everybody there is employed and is striving to build the economy.

Even we worked hard. Kabul was a gorgeous city with very well educated people. Herat was providing at least half of our income. Paghman's beauty used to attract millions of tourists. Heck, we even had foreigners working in Afghanistan before the war while your country started with American Dollars and mark my words, it will finish as soon as you run out on it.

4)So, most of my family is in Pakistan. we have a great army, way better education compared most of our neighbors and better infrastructure. so we did a lot.

Half of my mum's university in Jalalabad before the war were Pakistani's and mainly Pekhawari's, even my German teacher lived in Herat for 15 years. Even we had done a lot and even majority of my family is in Afghanistan; So?

5)We sent you Taliban cause your country was in a mess and someone had to rule it. All we heard was Pashtun this Tajik this. we supported you pukhtuns, we sent you leaders and it was pukhtun. its not like we sent a punjabi or something, it was your people.

Mohammad Najibullah was 'our person' as well, why did you kill him? Daud Khan was 'our person' as well, why did you kill him? If you wanted to protect us from Tajiks then why did you attack Hazaras?

6)Mullah umar is a Kandahari remember? Hamid Karzai is a Kandahari remember?
Wink wink. stop the nonsense. they were all your kandahris.

Yeah I very well remember who they are but may I know what the hell you are trying to say?