22 dead in Kabul hotel attack

[BarakzaiAbdali]

No bias....bias means PREJUDGING ....look it up; I'm judging AFTER evidence.


here I will even SHOW you the definition of bias.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bias?s=t




So no admission of bias what so ever; you however do have a bias; you BLINDLY without any evidential reason than MERELY a circumstantial Ad-Hominem, discredit any information which aligns the Taliban with nefarious agendas.

THAT is bias.

Hardly. If Salam Zaeef says the ISI tried to train him and other muj agents and details it in his text, I accept that. I do not however blindly accept your superimposed view of the Taliban onto the Afghan populace.

Therefore you are the one with bias as you have yet to produce a shred of evidence beyond: Bike Bomb equals Taliban ipso facto.

If thats not prejudging BEFORE evidence or based on supposed patterns of behavior then I dont know what is.

I do not have the evidence to say that you are an ISAF supporter or a Karzai supporter, because unlike you, my concern is not winning an argument, its about finding out the truth of the matter.

[WalidTaniwal]

I'm fine, I still have my screen name; you're urinating yourself as to how long it will take for you to get banned. Like I said you reveal more about yourself

about being involved with men; remember you're obsessing over me ...that's pretty gay.

Shiiiiit ARAB you got scimitar name removed with perv moves. That was amazing ban and all celebrated ban on Arabian who is unemployed and drives hoopty. Even some had hopes that your big bald a-s's was not stuck to chair and that you could move on after embarrassing and stunning defeat when Afghans together removed you like they remove all your camel friends.

[WalidTaniwal]

I'm fine, I still have my screen name; you're urinating yourself as to how long it will take for you to get banned. Like I said you reveal more about yourself

about being involved with men; remember you're obsessing over me ...that's pretty gay.

Awwww baby is depressed at verbal b/itch slap from me? Ok now I feel bad for destroying your fantasy. I say this, maybe we can work out deal where you pay me and I let your fantasy of being Pashtun or halfgan or whatever go on. So for example you will flex your gummy worm arms and go: heyyy Taniwal I am Pashtun and I wink and say yeeeah crazy Arab you sure are hehe loooool

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Shiiiiit ARAB you got scimitar name removed with perv moves. That was amazing ban and all celebrated ban on Arabian who is unemployed and drives hoopty. Even some had hopes that your big bald a-s's was not stuck to chair and that you could move on after embarrassing and stunning defeat when Afghans together removed you like they remove all your camel friends.

No my scimitarxedge name is still active ....go ask the Admins, I made this name because I liked it more.


Afghans are removing you, remember Admin banned you after I told him; if you were AFghan he would't have done that.

case closed

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Awwww baby is depressed at verbal b/itch slap from me? Ok now I feel bad for destroying your fantasy. I say this, maybe we can work out deal where you pay me and I let your fantasy of being Pashtun or halfgan or whatever go on. So for example you will flex your gummy worm arms and go: heyyy Taniwal I am Pashtun and I wink and say yeeeah crazy Arab you sure are hehe loooool

You're hallucinating again, your own anxieties you transfer to me.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Hardly. If Salam Zaeef says the ISI tried to train him and other muj agents and details it in his text, I accept that. I do not however blindly accept your superimposed view of the Taliban onto the Afghan populace.

Therefore you are the one with bias as you have yet to produce a shred of evidence beyond: Bike Bomb equals Taliban ipso facto.

If thats not prejudging BEFORE evidence or based on supposed patterns of behavior then I dont know what is.

I do not have the evidence to say that you are an ISAF supporter or a Karzai supporter, because unlike you, my concern is not winning an argument, its about finding out the truth of the matter.

No you not accepting something doesn't make me biased; it makes you biased.


lol Sitting with your fingers in your ear singing "Jimmy cracks corn and I dont care"...is what epitomizes bias. I've heard your case and I waited for fruition; all we have is Taliban shooting civilians in a hotel.

No bias there.

[pakhtana2012]

you have to give them their "haq" in the country. These attacks will continue until an afghan solution is found for an afghan problem. That will only happen when the foreign troops are out or NATO policy makers realize that equal representaion should be allowed from all sides of the conflict and not only from the sides that take their orders. NATO's plan of equating them to the Nazi regime may work on the outside world but it is not working on the afghan people.

How can you even say this??? What haq??!!! They have no haq they ruined afghans for years and they have no haq in this country!! And what equal representation When the Taliban was in power what did it do that was good for this country that now they still want to be represented. Respect and a right to be "represented" is earned and when they were in control they didn't earn it!!! So they should stop killing civilians for no reason!!! They are taking innocent lives and that is not ok.

[khushal]

How can you even say this??? What haq??!!! They have no haq they ruined afghans for years and they have no haq in this country!! And what equal representation When the Taliban was in power what did it do that was good for this country that now they still want to be represented. Respect and a right to be "represented" is earned and when they were in control they didn't earn it!!! So they should stop killing civilians for no reason!!! They are taking innocent lives and that is not ok.

You would be right if these people were just a nuisance. But as you can see they are more than a nuisance. They are an actual force who operate a shadow government beyond the control of NATO created government. This is only possible because people actually support them. It is the left out afghans, the people that have no equal representation that support the Taliban. Give those left out people equal representation and you wont see the Taliban any more.
I know afghan pashtuns that bribe pakistani officials to get pakistani citizenships because their own government wont do anything for them. That is a shame. If anyone that has no "haq" in the country it is the people that refuse to fight for themselves. They make brainwashed American soldiers die for them. If your unwilling to die for your "haq" and make brainwashed American soldiers die for you, then you dont deserve to be in the country.

FYI: the Taliban did not destroy the country. the people that are in power right now destroyed the country, the Taliban inherited an already destroyed society by the criminals that are running the country today.

[khushal]

what a pathetic excuse of cowardice

stop ranting like a western woman who cant get a boyfriend. come up with a solution. your an educated man, you can come up with something better than an insult.

[pakhtana2012]

You would be right if these people were just a nuisance. But as you can see they are more than a nuisance. They are an actual force who operate a shadow government beyond the control of NATO created government. This is only possible because people actually support them. It is the left out afghans, the people that have no equal representation that support the Taliban. Give those left out people equal representation and you wont see the Taliban any more.
I know afghan pashtuns that bribe pakistani officials to get pakistani citizenships because their own government wont do anything for them. That is a shame. If anyone that has no "haq" in the country it is the people that refuse to fight for themselves. They make brainwashed American soldiers die for them. If your unwilling to die for your "haq" and make brainwashed American soldiers die for you, then you dont deserve to be in the country.
FYI: the Taliban did not destroy the country. the people that are in power right now destroyed the country, the Taliban inherited an already destroyed society by the criminals that are running the country today.

Even if the Taliban hasn't ruined Afghanistan, it hasn't helped it either. If afghans weren't tired of the Taliban regime it wouldn't have opened its arms to the arrival of Americans. And partly i kinda thank America bcz if America never came to Afghanistan I wouldn't be sitting in Afghanistan today. The reason I came from America in the first place is bcz my country (Afghanistan) was in peace and because the taliban wasn't in control anymore. And about equal representation the Afghan government isn't strong enough, we can't even go through completely fair elections so how are we going to be able to let people be represented equally. You are contradicting yourself because you say that people are in pakistan bcz they have no haq and at the same time your saying everyone hast o fight for their own haq. Therefore the people that are in pakistan can't fight for their own haq don't deserve it as you put it. Then you say they should have a fair representation so they would come back so that means they have to fight for that. SO now do you want them to fight for their own haq or do you want them to stay in pakistan???

[Afghanistan2010]

Even if the Taliban hasn't ruined Afghanistan, it hasn't helped it either. If afghans weren't tired of the Taliban regime it wouldn't have opened its arms to the arrival of Americans. And partly i kinda thank America bcz if America never came to Afghanistan I wouldn't be sitting in Afghanistan today. The reason I came from America in the first place is bcz my country (Afghanistan) was in peace and because the taliban wasn't in control anymore. And about equal representation the Afghan government isn't strong enough, we can't even go through completely fair elections so how are we going to be able to let people be represented equally. You are contradicting yourself because you say that people are in pakistan bcz they have no haq and at the same time your saying everyone hast o fight for their own haq. Therefore the people that are in pakistan can't fight for their own haq don't deserve it as you put it. Then you say they should have a fair representation so they would come back so that means they have to fight for that. SO now do you want them to fight for their own haq or do you want them to stay in pakistan???

If the taliban,resistance of iraq and elsewhere won't stand a thorn against the americans and their crusade,they would have done to the muslims across the world things,whereupon it is said in pashto/pakhto : pasha be pe khandalay ( the cats would laugh upon).

[khushal]

Even if the Taliban hasn't ruined Afghanistan, it hasn't helped it either. If afghans weren't tired of the Taliban regime it wouldn't have opened its arms to the arrival of Americans. And partly i kinda thank America bcz if America never came to Afghanistan I wouldn't be sitting in Afghanistan today. The reason I came from America in the first place is bcz my country (Afghanistan) was in peace and because the taliban wasn't in control anymore. And about equal representation the Afghan government isn't strong enough, we can't even go through completely fair elections so how are we going to be able to let people be represented equally. You are contradicting yourself because you say that people are in pakistan bcz they have no haq and at the same time your saying everyone hast o fight for their own haq. Therefore the people that are in pakistan can't fight for their own haq don't deserve it as you put it. Then you say they should have a fair representation so they would come back so that means they have to fight for that. SO now do you want them to fight for their own haq or do you want them to stay in pakistan???

Im talking about the afghan government who uses brainwashed american soldiers to fight for them. Why should the american soldiers die for them. Why are they not fighting themselves for their "haq".

As for your other comment. some people have the money to go to Pakistan and have enough money to bribe pakistani officials. the poor ones that cant and have to live in afghanistan, they dont have the luxery of that choice. Dont hey have the "haq" to be equally represented.

While your living safely in Kabul or some other city. You have no care of what is happening in the country side. It is the villages where night raids are happening. It is the villages that bombs are falling on. When attacks like the one in the article happens, poor villagers dont really care. Those villagers dont care about your safety in the city just like you dont care about their safety in the villages.

[pakhtana2012]

Im talking about the afghan government who uses brainwashed american soldiers to fight for them. Why should the american soldiers die for them. Why are they not fighting themselves for their "haq".

As for your other comment. some people have the money to go to Pakistan and have enough money to bribe pakistani officials. the poor ones that cant and have to live in afghanistan, they dont have the luxery of that choice. Dont hey have the "haq" to be equally represented.

While your living safely in Kabul or some other city. You have no care of what is happening in the country side. It is the villages where night raids are happening. It is the villages that bombs are falling on. When attacks like the one in the article happens, poor villagers dont really care. Those villagers dont care about your safety in the city just like you dont care about their safety in the villages.

When did I said I don't care for their safety??? Although I live in Kabul I have my family that lives in a small village in Kandahar and to tell u the truth they are safer in tht small village than I am here. Just because I live in the city doesn't necessarily mean I'm safer. Everytime I visit my village in Kandahar I forget that Afghanistan has any fighting because of the quietness their. But I have had many incidents that I have been in lock downs or I have been in the same building as a bomb. So i don't know what gave you the impression that I am safer in the city.
If the Afghan gov't weren't corrupt then we wouldn't have american soliders here. Most people in the gov't right now are corrupt and they don't care abt their country. They mostly care about their pocket. They are content with what they have that is why they aren't fighting.

[faye]

Im talking about the afghan government who uses brainwashed american soldiers to fight for them. Why should the american soldiers die for them. Why are they not fighting themselves for their "haq".

As for your other comment. some people have the money to go to Pakistan and have enough money to bribe pakistani officials. the poor ones that cant and have to live in afghanistan, they dont have the luxery of that choice. Dont hey have the "haq" to be equally represented.

While your living safely in Kabul or some other city. You have no care of what is happening in the country side. It is the villages where night raids are happening. It is the villages that bombs are falling on. When attacks like the one in the article happens, poor villagers dont really care. Those villagers dont care about your safety in the city just like you dont care about their safety in the villages.

that's a new line for you, khushal, concern for the american soldiers?
where did that come from all of a sudden?
so while you live safely in america................

[faye]

stop ranting like a western woman who cant get a boyfriend. come up with a solution. your an educated man, you can come up with something better than an insult.

yeah, start ranting like an eastern woman, that has set herself on fire to escape a forced marriage. come up with solutions, that khushal and his ilk, haven't got enough brains to do.