...... Pakistan ......

[Master Khan]

who ever supports Pakistan goverment and its a pashtun then shame on you.

[Nadir Shah]

i don't get it why people from across the border thinks they can talk about afghan and afghanistan .... and here dear nokia sahab doesn't even wanna be called afghan... as if afghans have begged him to call himself one...

afghanistan has enough people that feel proud to call themselves afghans...we don't need anyone else... stay under panjabi rule if u are happy... we could care less... our beautiful afghanistan has pashtoons, tajiks, hazara, uzbek, pashayee, noristani, sikhs, and many more ethnicities... if pashtoons from other sides of the border wants to join this diverse afghanistan then they are more than welcome to... if not and they are happy under panjo rulling government... then we are happy for them...

The issue of Pashtun v Tajik or Pashtun v Hazara or Hazara v Tajik is nothing but the propaganda of Pakistani establishment in order to enlist it's Talib terrorism as some form of Pashtun Nationalism against the Afghan Republic. The ethnic tensions were exasperated because of the 30 years of war. They are now under control. Afghanistan has a mix of nationalities and ethnicities living between the Indus and the Oxus.

[Michin Khel]

who ever supports Pakistan goverment and its a pashtun then shame on you.

All you have to do is to leave non-serious and dumb one-liners in the serious discussions, Please refrain from posting childish comments in such topics. Read carefully what osho says in the below bolded paragraph.

I would like to bring it in the notice of the Admn and members of this great Forums site that

1. Please take all possible care that this site may not be crashed because of the heavy traffic load and the vaulable members may not waste their impportant material once and for all. This happened with me in another forum where I lost all my write ups and my poetry which unfortunately I could not save it some where else. Site Administration is a serious task and one must be prepared for any eventuality and may have time and resources to expand and develop .

2. All members may separate serious and non serious stuff in their posts. I see like many other similar sites that in a serious topic members start jokes, personal questions, writing just LOL, i like it , adorable, smilies etc. Please post light things in light sections. Dont mix the serious, educational stuff with entertainment or personal comments and greetings etc. Admn and moderators may delete all irrelevant and light stuff from serious topics. If you dont have enough material to criticize, comment or add to the topic then avoid writing just a sentence.

3, As alraedy sugegsted by one member that there should be space for blogs. If it cant be there then the practicable solution is that the site may have a SECTion of CREATIVE WRITING for articles, essays, long write ups , fiction, short stories etc where a member may post articles of more than one page stuff and at the end members may comment on it.

Thanx a lot and hope for the favourable action and more suggestions in pipe line hahaaaaaaa

[Master Khan]

@Luffy what has Pakistan Govt done for pashtuns?
My comment is not childish but its true, didn't they call displaced pashtuns from Swat and Dir "refugees"?

[Feroza_Banu]

All you have to do is to leave non-serious and dumb one-liners in the serious discussions, Please refrain from posting childish comments in such topics. Read carefully what osho says in the below bolded paragraph.

sometimes some things are so common sense matter that someone doesn't have to present any kind of proof. his comment was not childish... the fact that u think its childish is actually more childish...

if only all pashtoons realized the reality behind his comment... i think we would all be able to recognize our enemy and start working together to beat them.

in Dari there is a saying... "Aqilaan ra ishara bas ast... " "to a wise person, a signal should be sufficient."

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Jana if you are going to debate then rely on solid links and evidence and not old wive's tales. First of all, the soviets invasion into Afghanistan was something the US wanted. It was called the Afghan bear trap. This is none other than Zbigniew Brzenzski
Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

CRG -- The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan

Jana you can't justify the interference of one state in another. It is not only illegal but also a recipe for disaster in a region. This is what Israel does to justify their military operations in other Arab countries (unlike Pakistan they can actually win them). The West, Saudi and Pakistan set up the anti-khalqi mujahideen. They built up camps and trained Pashtuns on both sides of the durand to overthrow them. What was worse was that they ruined the culture of Pashtuns by introducing negative aspects in the society.

Hec your so-called islamic country also took arms from Israel. It is funny that to justify an operation in Swat, you supporters said fazllulah and ttp were Mossad and RAW agents and here you are taking support from them.
(check Pakistan Got Israeli Weapons During Afghan War Daily Times Monitor - Pakistan and http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._8139195_n.jpg -> gives you a great idea of the islam of the pak army and ISI)

Jana you can't eat the cake and have it too. Manipulate in one setting and then cry foul in another. That is total hypocrisy.

About Nokia, well he says these weird things all the time, and everything he says starts in 1835. I wouldn't take it seriously.

P.S. Jana I am waiting for proof about meat being banned in India and other claims that you bought forward. We would all like solid proof.

[Michin Khel]

@Luffy what has Pakistan Govt done for pashtuns?
My comment is not childish but its true, didn't they call displaced pashtuns from Swat and Dir "refugees"?

I am not discussing Pakistani governament with you, i am talking about your posting of one-liners in consistant manner. This is a discussion forum not a chat room. Either watch the mature discussions silently or if you want to contribute your views then present it after putting some effort in it. I have checked your posts and all of your 3000 posts are like this.

[Shayesta]

^ Like a sensible guy, Master Khan could either just put a one liner and end the matter regarding himself right there. Either like many of your types he could have started to talk about things he himself never knew about and end up fleeing the forum.

The issue of Pashtun v Tajik or Pashtun v Hazara or Hazara v Tajik is nothing but the propaganda of Pakistani establishment in order to enlist it's Talib terrorism as some form of Pashtun Nationalism against the Afghan Republic. The ethnic tensions were exasperated because of the 30 years of war. They are now under control.

It is sad seeing how Afghans fell for the foreign influence and started to hate each other. There are people who rubbish that Pukhtoons and Tajiks kill each other in Kabul but if you just once go to Kabul, you will see one man talking in Pukhto and he will be replied at in Dari. Once in Mazar Pukhtoons were all driven out, today more and more Pukhtoons start living there. Tajiks ain't some animals, only if we Pukhtoons hadn't decided that we in face of Taliban want to torture them, trust me even today they would have been as loyal to us as they were centuries back when we parted from Iran. Now we Pukhtoons must forget whatever has happened, first thing we must do now is make up to the Hazaras and start a friendship-relationship with them first.

[Master Khan]

I am not discussing Pakistani governament with you, i am talking about your posting of one-liners in consistant manner. This is a discussion forum not a chat room. Either watch the mature discussions silently or if you want to contribute your views then present it after putting some effort in it. I have checked your posts and all of your 3000 posts are like this.

Do I really have to waste my time typing to you how Bull**** pakistan goverment is.
Pakistan Goverment don't care about pashtuns, Our pashtun brothers and sisters are being killed in Karachi and what has the goverment done to protect us..nothing.
they destoryed Swat and Waziristan, put our people in Camps and call us "refugees", US and people paid for their aids, Every single day on ARY they were begging for money and saying things like "hum sab Pakistani hay, apkay zaakat dy".
Our pashto laugauge, pashtun history have no importance in Pakistan.
Our people are being killed in Karachi, Waziristan and Pashtunkhwa and the Goverment don't care.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Propaganda?

Dude, This really exists. Tajiks do not like us at all. They make fun of us. They consider our language inferior. They say we are immigrants to Afghanistan. Pakistan has no play in our ethnic tension.

Better yet, Iran plays a crucial role supporting the influence of Farsi amongst Pashtu speakers.

Both are Afghanprincess and both countries are supporting the negative aspect of this tension. At the end of the day, Afghanistan needs stability and some sort of power sharing agreement. Dismemberment of Afghanistan is a problem for itself and even bigger problem for Pashtunkhwa. Obviously the dukhmans sitting in either tehran or GHQ are dying to continue their proxy war on our land (they have their reasons).

[Zahed]

Propaganda?

Dude, This really exists. Tajiks do not like us at all. They make fun of us. They consider our language inferior. They say we are immigrants to Afghanistan. Pakistan has no play in our ethnic tension.

Better yet, Iran plays a crucial role supporting the influence of Farsi amongst Pashtu speakers.

not trying to be funny but everyone makes fun of Pashtoons today, even Pashtoons themselves. there was a time when Tajeks respected Pashto 'n Pashtoons, they didn't notice that they were talking with a Pashtoon when communicating with one. this hatred arised with arrival of Taliban, Pakistans creation. Pashto was forced on them 'n even Pakies 'n Arabs were treated better than Afghan minorities, infact, before Talibans arrival some Pashtoons were fighting along side Massood. u can't blame us for everything 'n as far as Iran is concerned, they indeed 're trying to spread Persian culture in Afghanistan but atleast they 're doing that through EDUCATION, not thru bombs like some others. but as far as I saw Kabul, majority 've moved on with their lives 'n as far as north 'n south 're concerned, every ethnic resides amongst their own people today so matter of ethical tension is out of question.

[Nokia_Apridy]

Feruza Banu ........Chay ta gelm jamu sra khushala ya za hem

da Punjbyanu sra khshala yam...........ao da khu

ba haga shan shi chay

MY enemy enemy is my ........... wos khushala usa..

ta kam za osgey lag rata wakhtya ?

[Nokia_Apridy]

dwara na...............

GREATER PUKHTUNISTAN..........

[Nokia_Apridy]

Nazia khoray

Ahmed Shah Baba da Farsiwany sra wada kray wu haga kha krey wu ka

bad ...........Ao bya Ya TAIMOOR zoy osho tarna

chay haga ba khpal Darbar da PUKHTU Spaka walay (bezate) kwala

pa Mosharay ka......

ka Baba ma hem shi chay pa BAY LARAY (GALAT) WI NU BAY LARAY (GALAT) ba

warta wayam...

[Son of Mountains]

How come? How is it more 'Islamic' than Afghanistan? And what does this word 'Islamic' even mean?

As i already said, there is only 1 Muslim country on the map of world, that is Holy Afghanistan.

kaaba should be moved from Arab to Afghanistan and next year Hajj should be in this great single islamic country.

And for Pakistan? ouff....total fraud, no muslim live there, only black dity daal eater hindus living in Pakistan....only afghanistan has human beings, the best race of the world, best Muslims!!!

Sadly saying it was a mistake of God who sent His messenger in Arab rather in holy Afghanistan