Taleban ----through the eyes of the cartonist

[tor_khan]

I wonder how can you write the Taleban off as Pashtuns and then using that premise complain of Pashtun marginalization. Who are the real cause of Pashtun marginalization?

I wonder how could you feel that empathy for those that blew up school to keep kids deprived of education though they would go to any corner of the world to find comfort for their own kids.

Do you also think Swat flogging video was fake?

DaMalakandGhar - I have worked on separate independent schools projects (in Afghanistan), picking and negotiating my way through what is the stand-off between the occupying forces and the Taliban.

I have seen through the promises made by everyone who claims a stake, so I don't take fools easily. I care about education of Pashtun children and refuse to have this sabotaged either by the Taliban or the men in foreign uniforms who supposedly are there to protect those children and their education. It is actually more complex than you attempt to portray.

[abcd]

You are funny? How did I call Muslims/Pashtuns animals. I called the Taliban animals...true but I don't think the Taliban are muslims after they flog innocent women in public, rape, pillage and kill. They have deviated from Islam.

Look at this munafiq secularist giving fatwas against others lol.
Since when have these secularists started fatwas ? Jihad is already being started by secularists. Ahaannnnn well done weldone.

[haviZsultan]

more propaganda and lies form you.
you are either extremely ignorant about the situation or plain shameless liar.
where have i called you a non muslim?

From the other thread: US & Al Qaeda: 2 sides of the same coin

you are plain anti muslim and call them animals as you have stated so spare us the rest of your BS.
you are ill informed about Afghans and Pashtun culture and you write a filthy propaganda piece.

Anti-Muslim is actually worse than non-muslim...

[DaMalakandGhar]

[RevolutionThroughReason]

offcourse they are muslim pashtuns,
flogging video was fake,rape?pillage and kill?

you are truelly out of your mind.
you must have mistaken them for napak filthy forces who raped thousands of bengalis and balochis,who killed PAshutns and made them be displaced,who grabbed women by their hair and put them in jails later to rape them,pillage cities and villages they come across in pukhtunkhwa.

you are the one who has deviated from Islam,you cant be a seculer muslim.
YOU FAILED

so if you call someone an animal, and he happens to be a Pashtun/Muslim this is the same as calling Pashtuns/Muslims as a whole animals?

IS this what you're trying to imply?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I wonder how can you write the Taleban off as Pashtuns and then using that premise complain of Pashtun marginalization. Who by the way are the real cause of Pashtun marginalization? I wonder how could you feel that empathy for those that blew up schools to keep our kids deprived of education though you would go to any corner of the world to find comfort for your own kids.

Do you also think Swat flogging video was fake?

Well so if a Black Man commits a crime does he cease to be black? I think that is Tor Khan's reasoning. You don't cease to be what you are because of your actions.

[Afghanistan2010]

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[haviZsultan]

so if you call someone an animal, and he happens to be a Pashtun/Muslim this is the same as calling Pashtuns/Muslims as a whole animals?

IS this what you're trying to imply?

His logic is almost funny.

These Taliban are trying to appeal to popular sentiment to get support and calling others anti pashtun or anti muslim whenever they hear any criticism for the Taliban. Everyone knows no debate can take place this way.

Anyone can look into my posts and notice I have never uttered a word against Pashtuns or Muslims but his logic is linear. You have insulted Islam if you say a word about the Taliban and he uses the same tactics to avoid any debate about the militancy.

Its like arguing with a mirror.

[KhyberKhan]

what's a cartonist?

[khushal]

so if you call someone an animal, and he happens to be a Pashtun/Muslim this is the same as calling Pashtuns/Muslims as a whole animals?

IS this what you're trying to imply?

The animal is the one lacking understanding of the situation and then labeling people as animals.

What does Havisultan understand, he is writing a story about badal but he does not understand what badal is in pakhtokawol. he does no understand the evolutionary aspect of Badal or the purpose of it. He is a complete idiot.

[faye]

oh, everyone one is a complete idiot, khushal. only you are the wise and all knowing (apart from 2010, that is)
must be maaaahvelous daaahhhling to be sooooooo faaaaabulously enlightened. tell us how it feeels.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

The animal is the one lacking understanding of the situation and then labeling people as animals.

What does Havisultan understand, he is writing a story about badal but he does not understand what badal is in pakhtokawol. he does no understand the evolutionary aspect of Badal or the purpose of it. He is a complete idiot.

You dont know that, he may fully understand it, but he may just see the absurdities intrinsic in such a narrative being passed as an excuse. None the less shadowgovernor's emotional black mail scheme is very transparent and by the rules of Logic Havisultan's statement was indicative of nothing more than a critique of Taliban.

Understanding is not the same as affirmation; for example I understand western thinking and western mindset, I dont necessarily agree with it and I see it as horrendously flawed. He may very well understand Pashtunwali fine but can identify its logical flaws

[faye]

we're all animals anyway. aren't we, you evolutionists?

[khushal]

You dont know that, he may fully understand it, but he may just see the absurdities intrinsic in such a narrative being passed as an excuse. None the less shadowgovernor's emotional black mail scheme is very transparent and by the rules of Logic Havisultan's statement was indicative of nothing more than a critique of Taliban.

Understanding is not the same as affirmation; for example I understand western thinking and western mindset, I dont necessarily agree with it and I see it as horrendously flawed. He may very well understand Pashtunwali fine but can identify its logical flaws

I have read his posts, he know nothing. if he does, let him prove it, I want to know what the evolutionary aspect of badal is and what purpose it serves in pakhtokawal.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I have read his posts, he know nothing. if he does, let him prove it, I want to know what the evolutionary aspect of badal is and what purpose it serves in pakhtokawal.

He is under no obligation to prove anything as he is not the one making the assertion here , you are ; and what I can gather in your posts is that you hold an intrinsic bias and that is evident by your apologetics for the Taliban despite not having any substantiable references to affirm then

The Evolutionary Aspect of badal? Please show us an anthropological source that confirms that such a concept exists in the first place. Otherwise you asking such a question would be like asking "I want to know if he understand's Santa Clause's Christmas List Algorithm".