Pakistan's ISI intelligence agency 'supports' Taliban

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Just giving you a sense about isi.

they were powerful in 90s due to american support.
But they got nothing in their hands now and they are busy capturing pakistani taliban.

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Just giving you a sense about isi.

they were powerful in 90s due to american support.
But they got nothing in their hands now and they are busy capturing pakistani taliban.

Sher Khan they are still very influential, and so is the military brass. It is no coincidence it is called a state within a state. BTW CIA still pays for a 1/3rd of the budget, so I guess that argument kind of goes out, no?

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ISI contacts with Mjahideen and the then taliban is not a secret and ISI was porud of it. We should see the contacts after 9/11, if they cut the contacts or still they are in contacts. It should be discussed.
Many rumours are there, and as far as my information and sense, ISI retired officers are much involved and also people in service involved in many cases. However, at the top level contacts are now limited although not completed disconnected, as they keep it for the future use.
I think ISI is not refusing these contacts as Kiani sahib said few days back that Afghan should provide strategic depth as our back is narrow physically and we have a strong enemy on our east.
Now, the question is, if people request for such relation or attack the person and nation where he/she needs protection.
ISI interference can be limited only when Pashtoons of Pakhtoonkhwa leave Pakistan or compell pakistan if they can to stop these practices of interfering Afghanistan, otherwise no chance. Ya for Punajb it is of no importance if Afghanistan is destroyed or not, but for many pashtoons it does matter. therefore such an awareness is needed. I appreciate Mehmmod Khan Achakzai, although I have many differences with him however, how he condemns and talk at each and every forum against the role of ISI and other agencies regarding militancy is 100% corect. Such an awareness in pashtoon masses can dilute this interference.

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these guys are ex isi.. who still support taliban just like hamid gul.

But such activities require money and other resources which is not possible for retired officials to get. What do you think how and from whom they get such resources?

pakistan policies always change. it got nothing to do with jews and yes situation is different from palestine. Its foreign policy which could change anytime.

Their policy never changes. Just quote me an example. It was the West and the US whose policy changed towards Pakistan after the cold war and disintegration of the USSR. I don's see any of its policy change towards India, China, Saudi Arabia etc. I think what you have perceived of a policy change is actually a change of strategy.

the whole crap was started by mullah zia ul haq in the name of islam.

Lol. you are so simple. This all started back in early 50's. Just read a bit history of this country.

musharraf was secular. His model country was turkey . So the U turn happened.

Musharaf in his personal life might be secular but it was him who paved the way for the electoral victory of MMA through a change in election laws requiring a bachelor degree from each election candidate and on the other hand recognised the equivalency of Madrassas certificate to a Bachelor degree thus disqualifying many competent politicians and enabling MMA to win elections in Pakhtunkhwa. And thus he was the architect of the rule of Mullas in Pakhtunkhwa.

[khyaal]

Musharraf is widely considered to ruin Pakistan

lol. But Pakistan was no heaven before Musharaf. Musharraf earned them billions of dollars through the double game with US and the West.

[khyaal]

Have you seen the video of Musharraf when Indian people make fun of him? in this debate type of thing?

yeah i have seen part of it, especially when a Hindu Pandit woman tells him that she can't go back to her home. His reply was so ridiculous and so funny.

But when we say Musharaf's policy, we actually refer to the policy of Punjabi establishment.

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yeah i have seen part of it, especially when a Hindu Pandit woman tells him that she can't go back to her home. His reply was so ridiculous and so funny.

But when we say Musharaf's policy, we actually refer to the policy of Punjabi establishment.

What is wrong with you brother? Pakistan has democracy and we have Pukhtuns who love the country. Hundreds even exist here in Pukhtun forums. What do you mean Punjabi establishment> we have had Pashtun presidents, Pashtun army high ranks and pashtun intelligent officers.

[khyaal]

What is wrong with you brother? Pakistan has democracy.

lol. Pakistan and democracy? Pakistan has created just an illusion of democracy where the de facto rulers will always be Punjab's military and civil bureaucracy.



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and we have Pukhtuns who love the country..

Yes the sold ones love their interests first and not your country, and disgraced Pashuns like Amir Muqam, Saifullah brothers are always ready for the higher bidder. So they ain't your real friends.

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What do you mean Punjabi establishment>.

Punjab's civil and military bureaucracy which has ruled this country since its creation.

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we have had Pashtun presidents, Pashtun army high ranks and pashtun intelligent officers.

But then India too had Muslim presidents. Btw, several Pashtuns had been in high ranks even during the British rule.

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lol. Pakistan and democracy? Pakistan has created just an illusion of democracy where the de facto rulers will always be Punjab's military and civil bureaucracy.



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Yes the sold ones love their interests first and not your country, and disgraced Pashuns like Amir Muqam, Saifullah brothers are always ready for the higher bidder. So they ain't your real friends.

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Punjab's civil and military bureaucracy which has ruled this country since its creation.

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But then India too had Muslim presidents. Btw, several Pashtuns had been in high ranks even during the British rule.

That is not true nothing you said is true. you are not being realistic paaji. Pathans of Pakistan are very patriotic and they love Pakistan. Listen to there music. come to Peshawar and look for real life.

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So what ?

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So what ?

read it

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NO , thank you