Pakistan's ISI intelligence agency 'supports' Taliban

[Shayesta]

^ Even I know her from an other forum and I have seen how she defended those Pukhtoons from Pakhtunkhwa who saw Afghans as their brothers, Maseed of this forum is an example who was at the same forum. She only got in arguments with those Pakistanis kept making threads about Afghan ethnics, mixed marriages and ethical clashes. Stop spreading lies.

[Michin Khel]

^ Even I know her from an other forum and I have seen how she defended those Pukhtoons from Pakhtunkhwa who saw Afghans as their brothers, Maseed of this forum is an example who was at the same forum. She only got in arguments with those Pakistanis kept making threads about Afghan ethnics, mixed marriages and ethical clashes. Stop spreading lies.

I would have given links to her controvertial posts here but the links of that forum are censored here.

[Maiwand]

Afghan resistance statement
Response of the Leadership Council of the Islamic Emirate in Reaction to the Maligning Report of the London School of Economics

Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan:

Tuesday, 15 June 2010

A Study Team of the London School of Economics has claimed in a report that the intelligence agency of Pakistan has been supporting the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan militarily and logistically. It has claimed that Pakistani intelligence officials practically participate in meetings of the alleged Quetta Council and impose their discretions on members of the Leadership Council.

While considering this report of the London School of Economic as a merely baseless propaganda launched to promote British and American interests, the Islamic Emirate, meanwhile, declares its stand as follows:

1. The military power of the Evil Coalition including American, British and NATO forces have failed to prevent the victorious operations of the Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Now they want to utilize their academic and research institutes in the work of the occupation of Afghanistan and for oppression of the Afghan Muslim people. The baseless report of the London School of Economics is a case in point. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan believes, the said report by the so-called research institute is a dictated drama of the political rulers of the West. It is not an investigative report based on facts and reasons, ethically carried out by academic research institute.

2. The current Jihad and resistance against the invaders are being led by the leadership of the Islamic Emirate based inside Afghanistan – obviously with the help and support of the Afghan Mujahid people. The enemy itself admits, the Islamic Emirate has control over 70% of the Afghan soil. The Islamic Emirate does not need to have such councils outside the country in order to continue the current popular resistance.

3. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has always emphasized that the present resistance is completely an home-grown Afghan Islamic resistance against the aggression of the invaders. It is not possible to lead such resistance simply by foreign support instead of the native support of the Afghan masses. Had a foreign support rather than indigenous support , ever played a role in such cases, then the surrogate administration of Karzai has military, espionage, economic and political support of 49 countries, why it has failed to prevent the growing national resistance of the Afghan Mujahid nation despite the support of the foreign invaders that the Administration enjoys?

4. Rulers of the government of Pakistan claim that they are the frontline pioneers of the American ignited war. They have not spared to do whatever was in their capacity to do. Hence, it is not rationale to say that they are supporting the jihad and resistance against the Americans in Afghanistan. Had Pakistan supported the Mujahideen, then manifestations and impact of their support would have categorically become visible.

5. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan openly invites all academic and research institutes, military and intelligence entities of the world including the London School of Economics to come to Afghanistan and behold the ranks of the Islamic Emirate with their own eyes that whether the Afghan gallant people or any foreigner make up the Mujahideen and leaders of the Jihad. Then again, they should check the ranks of the Karzai stooge administration to see whether their leaders are the gallant Afghans or the open enemies of our country and the invaders. After that, they should put, their academic and investigative report conducted on the basis of the ground realities, at the disposal of the public of the world. Had they done so, these academic institutes would have abided by their recognized norms and principles; would have saved their caliber and reputations, and produced useful academic report. At least, it would not have been a fabricated drama, ironically ordered by the arrogant powers.

6. To end, the Islamic Emirate calls on all independent countries of the world, particularly, the neighboring countries to extend their support to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan to put an end to the occupation of the arrogants so that our oppressed and suffering countrymen can get rid of the occupation of the tyrants and form an independent system.

Leadership Council
Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

[Nadir Shah]

This response has unmistakable similarity to the statements of the Inter Services Public Relations. It has surely been drafted in Rawalpindi.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

This response has unmistakable similarity to the statements of the Inter Services Public Relations. It has surely been drafted in Rawalpindi.

hahaha very true, of course its drafted in rawalpindi, I bet some Pakistani wrote it and made it go viral.


Nadir Shah, I returned from DI Khan, I met some of the Afghan talib there under Commmandar Baz mohmmand, I even have his Photo taken with me, You see, even he told me ISI controls the whole group to do jihad in Afghanistan, he even told me one Pakistani army bridgier controls the whole unit when it comes to law issues etc, Not just this, there was a family friend of a friend of mine, who returned from fighting in Afghanistan,He was arrested by the Pakistan Police, later a Pakistani Army bridgier visited his prison cell and released him on the grounds he poses no threat to Pakistan, but its okay to bomb and kill those in Afghanistan.

You see these Westerners sat in the peaceful West, like to preach to others to follow and support Taliban, but they themselves dont even live with any talibs neither do they even know whats truely going on, even if you show them the truth, they still ignore it etc.

Well, let time tell, When ISI is exposed and its friendship with Taliban, lets see how they shift them from north waziristan etc, Lets see how strong the Taliban get when there is nobody funding nor supporting it.

Kind Regards

[Nadir Shah]

hahaha very true, of course its drafted in rawalpindi, I bet some Pakistani wrote it and made it go viral.


You Nadir Shah, I returned from DI Khan, I met some of the Afghan talib there under Commmandar Baz mohmmand, I even have his Photo taken with me, You see, even he told me ISI controls the whole group to do jihad in Afghanistan, he even told me one Pakistani army bridgier controls the whole unit when it comes to law issues etc, Not just this, there was a family friend of a friend of mine, who returned from fighting in Afghanistan,He was arrested by the Pakistan Police, later a Pakistani Army bridgier visited his prison cell and released him on the grounds he poses no threat to Pakistan, but its okay to bomb and kill those in Afghanistan.

You see these Westerners sat in the peaceful West, like to preach to others to follow and support Taliban, but they themselves dont even live with any talibs neither do they even know whats truely going on, even if you show them the truth, they still ignore it etc.

Well, let time tell, When ISI is exposed and its friendship with Taliban, lets see how they shift them from north waziristan etc, Lets see how strong the Taliban get when there is nobody funding nor supporting it.

Kind Regards

Malgariya, its not only the Westeners. Our Moslem brethren to the east of the Indus River are also the main promoters of this point of view. They would have their bhangrhas and Cantonment golf courses and army clubs and LUMS and stuff but they would call the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakhtunkhwa Mujahids.

Malgariya, we have historical precedence to predict what would happen. The other pet of ISI, Gulbaddin Hekmatyar, was a feared force as long as he was being canned by Rawalpindi. When the Punjabis shifted their favors to the Taliban militia, the Chaharasyab/Sarobi fortress of Hekmatyar fell like a house of cards. The Talibs have no support in Afghanistan. They will live as long as Rawalpindi lives. Maybe not even that long.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Malgariya, its not only the Westeners. Our Moslem brethren to the east of the Indus River are also the main promoters of this point of view. They would have their bhangrhas and Cantonment golf courses and army clubs and LUMS and stuff but they would call the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakhtunkhwa Mujahids.

Malgariya, we have historical precedence to predict what would happen. The other pet of ISI, Gulbaddin Hekmatyar, was a feared force as long as he was being canned by Rawalpindi. When the Punjabis shifted their favors to the Taliban militia, the Chaharasyab/Sarobi fortress of Hekmatyar fell like a house of cards. The Talibs have no support in Afghanistan. They will live as long as Rawalpindi lives. Maybe not even that long.

What a Historic Photo



Hamid Gul, Supporter of Taliban Shariat in Afghanistan with his Family(Where is the Hijab on his daughter, Uzma gul, owner of a coach business in Rawalpindi, I though Hamid gul opposed Womans education and Women working)

[Nadir Shah]

What a Historic Photo



Hamid Gul, Supporter of Taliban Shariat in Afghanistan with his Family(Where is the Hijab on his daughter, Uzma gul, owner of a coach business in Rawalpindi, I though Hamid gul opposed Womans education and Women working)

Those who speak of resistance against the American 'infidels' should be asked what they feel when the Punjabi Ijaz Ul Haq and the Arab Turki bin Faisal are standing on the sacred Afghan/Pashtun soil?

[Nadir Shah]

Pakistan complains why Afghans are also friendly to Indians. Well it's because ISI wants to see our country destroyed. They have destroyed it already. We now have proof Pakistan supported Taliban.

But TALIBAN for Pakistan is a bad thing do you agree Nadir?

Malgariya, It is a symbiotic relationship, or at least it was. The ISI supported the Talibs in N, S Waziristan, Bajaur, Khyber, Swat initially to play the American presence in Afghanistan to it's own advantage. The War Against Terror was a golden goose for the **** establishment. It also wanted the Talibs to prosper in Central and N Pakhtunkhwa in order to provide space and man-power for the Talibs operating in Afghanistan. But I think it has become a frankenstein monster. Most outfits especially in N Waziristan and Bajaur are under ISI control. But I agree, let the ISI and Pak Army do whatever they want. The international community will see ISAF/NATO/UN Forces entry into C Pakhtunkhwa and Southern Punjab as the next logical step if the Pakis do not stop their undercover business.

[r3alist]

a person with a brain and no agenda would ignore where the report is coming from

would look at the methodology or the report

would look at the sources

would look at the foot notes

would double check and verify their authenticity

would question the research methods

would examine the sources and their credability

and would THEN form an opinion



so why cant afghans do this?

do the above and then lets talk....

[єѕαρχαι]

You guys lack sense , bringing 90s crap.

pakistan was taliban friendly and took a u turn due to american pressure after 9/11 this is the truth.
hameed gul doesnt worth a penny . he doesnt work for isi anymore . it was zia ul haq's era.

i believe isi has ties with afghan taliban . thats why they are not operating in north waziristan. but pakistani taliban are a headache for them.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

You guys lack sense , bringing 90s crap.

pakistan was taliban friendly and took a u turn due to american pressure after 9/11 this is the truth.
hameed gul doesnt worth a penny . he doesnt work for isi anymore . it was zia ul haq's era.

i believe isi has ties with afghan taliban . thats why they are not operating in north waziristan. but pakistani taliban are a headache for them.

lol you have to look at the 90s, it was an important time and proof of what a failed policy strategic depth was. You all know this as a headache now, but there were people who saw it then in the 90s. Can you discuss Israel-Palestine without discussing previous events? Can you discuss India-Pakistan relations without discussing past events? So how can you do the same for Pashtun/Afghans? TTP is what is called blowback, and don't worry it is the beginning. Unfortunately we Pashtuns had to learn the hard way on how Pak ISI and army ruined our areas, but at least they know now.

[khyaal]

You guys lack sense , bringing 90s crap.

pakistan was taliban friendly and took a u turn due to american pressure after 9/11 this is the truth.
hameed gul doesnt worth a penny . he doesnt work for isi anymore . it was zia ul haq's era.

i believe isi has ties with afghan taliban . thats why they are not operating in north waziristan. but pakistani taliban are a headache for them.

lol. Haven't you heard this that Once a Jew always a Jew.

Just lately Retired Col. Imam and RETIRED Brig Khwaja were sent to Waziristan. And in a video message both these guys confessed that they had been sent by Aslam Beg, himself a RETIRED army chief. Then what this shame persons have to do with Taliban if they are not on duty? For your information Javed khwaja got killed by a group named Asian Tigers in waziristan.

[єѕαρχαι]

these guys are ex isi.. who still support taliban just like hamid gul.

pakistan policies always change. it got nothing to do with jews and yes situation is different from palestine. Its foreign policy which could change anytime.

the whole crap was started by mullah zia ul haq in the name of islam.
musharraf was secular. His model country was turkey . So the U turn happened.

what about dostum ? he is still alive.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

these guys are ex isi.. who still support taliban just like hamid gul.

pakistan policies always change. it got nothing to do with jews and yes situation is different from palestine. Its foreign policy which could change anytime.

the whole crap was started by mullah zia ul haq in the name of islam.
musharraf was secular. His model country was turkey . So the U turn happened.

what about dostum ? he is still alive.

So are you telling me things happen in a political vacuum? What does Dostum have to do with this? Musharraf model may have been turkey but that was not the case in what happened in Pashtunkhwa. Come on man. Try a little harder.