Pakistan's ISI intelligence agency 'supports' Taliban

[Michin Khel]

Jinnah Sahib

Many you people? so when have fellow Pashtuns been other people.

Luffy, Just admit to us all, that your a Hindkomar? I mean you speak just like one. Nex time India bashes Pakistan for the fourth time, dont run to the so called backward people haha.

Talk about being backward,show a region in Pakistan that doesnt suffer from backwardness.

Kind Regards

You are not worthy of attention.
Your false and childish assumptions will not help you in making your arguements heavy. You are constantly trying to provoke me so that i may indulge in useless exchange of personal attacks with you from which you seems to derive pleasure. I am surprised that you are once nominated as member of month with such attitude.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

You are not worthy of attention.
Your false and childish assumptions will not help you in making your arguements heavy. You are constantly trying to provoke me so that i may indulge in useless exchange of personal attacks with you from which you seems to derive pleasure. I am surprised that you are once nominated as member of month with such attitude.

I was nominated for a reason and i have one of the highest thanks than any other member, this must be a reason, i am not childish and wouldnt take some kid from Peshawer who thinks hes knows everything very seriously. Neither will a consider a Pashtun a Pashtun if he/she wants to promote jinnahism or Pakistaniyat which is a obstacle to Pashtun unity and the unification of all Pashtun tribes.

You are not worthy to be called a fellow Pashtuns when you blantely insult Tribal Pashtuns as backward people, then you insult balochis as barbaric people just because they refuse Punjabi domination and their struggle for Freedom.

Kind Regards

[Michin Khel]

You are not worthy to be called a fellow Pashtuns when you blantely insult Tribal Pashtuns as backward people,

As i said you have kiddie brain, FATA is a backward area in terms of progress and development. Quota Seats are reserved for it for its area being backward. I have never met a single tribal who call his area a as rich, developed and advanced.

[Mano]

It is to me. I love ISI. It works for OUR interests. NOT YOURS.


and welcome here.

whose interests?

Are you that tajik from afghanforums?

what tajik? i will not bother discussing whether i am tajik or pashtun or anything else. i am an Afghan patriot whose interest is in the well being of the Afghan people and nation

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Any Afghan working for the betterment of Afghanistan and its intrests is true Afghan regardless of ethnic group. Majority of Afghans would die to defend their country including all ethnicities in Afghanistan as proved during the soviet Jihad. Those who want to divide us are working for our enemies intrests and we must stop them in their tracks. I don't care if a pashtun from pakhtunkhwa works for the intrests of pakistan against Afghanistan then he is not my brother. I denounce him and would take a hazara or tajik as my brother over him anyday.

working for pakistani intrests is fine as long as it doesn't involve working against Afghnistan's intrests. If their intrests collides a true pashtun would either stay neutral or support Afghanistan. The ones who don't are cowards and sell outs.

However I would like to make an addition. If any element in Afghanistan tries to work against Pashtunkhwa then similarly we need Afghanistan to rally alongside us. Although this scenario is implausible since Afghanistan can't really work counter to Pashtunkhwa, anymore can pashtunkhwa work counter to Afghanistan. Our interests, trade, culture and destiny is tied too close. Bottomline is that Afghanistan and Pashtunkhwa should realize we can't trust our neighbours east of the indus or west of herat. Better we start rallying for our own interests. The gifts of ISI policy - ruined malakand, ruined schools, burned bridges, destroyed infrastructure and refugee camps, etc. Ofcourse jeevae jeevae :-p

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Very well said rora, I assumed pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa and Afghanistan to be one. But there is truth in what you pointed out and its true that we are not at that stage yet. More work needs to be done both in Afghanistan and Pakhtunkhwa to make people aware of this fact. Our destinies are definitely eternally interlinked.

This has been the jist of my argument for so long. We are too intertwined to support pakistan's, Iran's or NA's interest. If Afghanistan is unstable, Pashtunkhwa is in problems both economically and socially. However, we are not nearly as affected if there is an unstable Panjab or sindh (not that I support such things). Isn't it tragic that Pakistan and India are playing a proxy war in our lands, and we sit here deaf, dumb and blind to it. I don't care about their methods, but I want Pashtuns/Afghans to recognize their interests are not ours. Once we recognize this, we can get out of this idea of blaming others for our problems. We can't blame Iran or Pakistan for looking out for themselves, we only have ourselves to blame. Why are we so quiet here? We don't we at least voice a common political agenda (even though that is the most logical thing)? We don't even need to talk about a single state yet, we can start off with our common political interests and goals. Let the pakistani govt and others worry about their interests, it is not ours.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

As i said you have kiddie brain, FATA is a backward area in terms of progress and development. Quota Seats are reserved for it for its area being backward. I have never met a single tribal who call his area a as rich, developed and advanced.

As i said before, show me a single place in your Pakistan that isnt backward? i never said tribal areas are advanced and developed, maybe due to your Pakistan those regions have been used and abused for political interests. I just find it funny somebody from Peshawer and an Hindkowan to call others as backward and especially from the Tribal areas.

Your just twising words as usual, this is a very common habit amongst the Jinnah supporters.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Jinnah Sahib, can you show where Pakistan has done anything good for the Tribal people, and do you hate the Tribal people because they dont listen to Nazia Iqbal nor allow their womans to dance naked at weddings? or is that only for the Advance people of Peshawer.

[Michin Khel]

This mano is the person who refuses pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa as afghans and calls them pakies and dhalkhors even if they are anti-pakistanis on another forum.

[Mayana]

This mano is the person who refuses pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa as afghans and calls them pakies and dhalkhors even if they are anti-pakistanis on another forum.

No need for Mano to do that.
People like yourself, Pakistani, Jana and Punjabi deliberately call themselves Pakistanis and even take pride in doing so. No need for anyone else to do that.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Luffy Jinnah Sahib

Mano does not consider Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa as Dhaalkhors,I know this Mano very well from Afghanforums.

Mano is a great Pashtun patriot.

Kind Regards

[MazloomyarMaseed]

This mano is the person who refuses pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa as afghans and calls them pakies and dhalkhors even if they are anti-pakistanis on another forum.

Quoted for Propaghanda

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Levanaye khabara da daa chee there is no war over this notion in my country.

Grievances are found in one family against even your own brothers this doesnt mean that we are at war with our family.

And another thing do you support US invasion ???????



Prove it.



Neither am i concerned what they eat or drink or worship thats their personal matter i am only talking about our decision to join Pakistan

Again Jana, I dnt know what they feed you at the female Military Dorm in Pakistan but how can you compare the current war within ones family, if you cant see, the war is on pashtuns and Punjab is making alot of money through aid and military assistance from the West.

Pakistan has not only made games with Pashtuns but its a dishonest state. I understand you may be in a Military Family, and you dont want to loose the upper class education that Pakistan provides you, but your life and world is very much different than other pashtuns, and the day will soon arrive when every Pakistani soldeirs will be killed starting from Bolochistan.

The only thing that is keeping Pakistan alive is the West, as Pakistan is the wests interest. I really doubt China will give the same large amounts of cash to Pakistan as America and the EU does.

Secondly, Jana, you need to go and see Reality and actually go outside your barraks.

Not everybody is so naive to fall for ISPR Propaghanda, so go and visit those areas,see for yourself what your Pakistan Army truely is and you will be shocked.

Look at the current game Pakistan army is doing by making abdullah mahsud group to attack hakeemullah mahsud group, in DI Khan you can see the same talibs who slaughtered those chinese engineers patrolling with Pakistan Army and Police, and not just this, people such as turkistan bhittani and misbahudeen and mohammand baz all are well known talibs and are on government payroll, goes to show where American dollars are being spent on eh

Kind Regards

[Shayesta]

This mano is the person who refuses pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa as afghans and calls them pakies and dhalkhors even if they are anti-pakistanis on another forum.

LOL, aww. Now since you and your type of people haven't got anything to say any more to back their arguments, you gonna decide to start about Mano who hasn't even started yet about Pakistan?

[Michin Khel]

LOL, aww. Now since you and your type of people haven't got anything to say any more to back their arguments, you gonna decide to start about Mano who hasn't even started yet about Pakistan?

That was not about arguement, that was a warning. I know her from another forum. She is definately a patriotic afghan but not pashtun. She has called khyber-pakhtunkhwa as crapola and find it very insulting and disgraceful to title of afghan if it is associated with pashtuns of pakistan. I dont blame her for her such thinking , minorities of afghanistan can not like the idea of 30 million pashtuns joining their country and turning them into absolute minority.