US Soldier Kills Dozen Civilians Near Kandahar

[BarakzaiAbdali]

here is a thought.

if the afghan government, which has diplomatic relations with the US, were to demand the custody of this criminal and the US were to obviously refuse, does that give the afghan government the moral and legal right to invade the US and topple its government?

Good point.

Legalities in war only matter when you are the dominant party, able to inforce those laws. This is exactly the problem with Geneva Conventions and series of sham laws that were promulgated as some sort of general idea of an honor rule between nations. The folks that design these international laws know full well that once blood is split, it continues to flow unabated. This is not a game of soccer where red cards are handed out.

Thats been my point to folks here at Yale regarding the Arab Israeli conflict and in terms of discussions centering around the durand line. Even if you were to definitively show one party, by building a machine, and clearly demonstrating their errors... if they are in a dominant position they will never cede that position unless the gain for them is some semblance of confirmed stability or the pot is made sweeter.

Its been a favorite quote of some colleagues here in New Haven when this discussion comes up: "But Karzai is the internationally recognized leader of Afghanistan!"

Autonomous nations are able to exorcise their writ. When I was a child, there was an American student who did some hokey pokey in Singapore:
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/26/us...singapore.html

There was a huge uproar about how dare Singapore inflict lashing onto an American visitor for breaking Singapore's law. It did not matter though, because as weak as Singapore may be, it still is an autonomous nation, able to exercise its writ in its own nation.

Unforunately Mr. Karzai believes, like a giddy teenage girl at prom who thinks she is Cinderella, that he actually is Hamid Shah Durrani turban and all. As time has gone by, and as he has realized that he is being cut out of the deals being made... and as he saw Gaddafi's fate (collaborator), Saddam's fate (collaborator), Ben Ali's fate (collaborator), he himself supposedly said... should I be Wazir Akbar or Shah Shuja??? He doesnt understand that you cannot dance with the devil in the pale moon light and not get a little smell of sulfur on you.

Same goes for the US dancing the tango with inept autocrats like the above mentioned... no matter what the intentions of the liberal interventionalists are... they dont understand they dilute their goals by dancing with the Karzais.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

it was in panjwai

Relatives said it was an Alikozai tribal village, I think. My best to the Alikozai.

[کیش]

In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

The so called American peace keepers have once again quenched their thirst with the blood of innocent Afghan civilians in Kandahar province. According to recent reports arriving from the area, the American invaders backed by their puppets (ANA) left their base last night (11/03/2012) and raided several homes of locals, located near their base in Balambi village of Panjwaee district.

Witnesses from the scene say that during the raids, the American terrorists and their puppets shot the household members at point blank range and so far 50 bodies have been found and recovered by the villagers among which, 11 are from the home of Muhammad Wazir including himself. The unsuspecting innocent victims have been sprayed with hundreds of bullets and have been cold-bloodedly martyred.

The villagers say that this genocidal act, carried out by Americans and their hireling ANA took place last night at around midnight, adding that due to tens of civilians taking shelter in safe houses to protect themselves from this horror, many bodies have not yet been found which could potentially increase the number of casualties.

In this night time operation, the barbaric American terrorists have also burnt down a number of homes of the ordinary people. Some news outlets have cited the Americans as saying that the casualties have been caused by airstrikes however the villagers categorically reject this claim and invite all to examine the victims who have either been shot or have been martyred by hand grenades hurled inside their rooms. Most of the victims are local villagers, women and children.

Alemara website is trying to gather the names of the victims and other details of this crime committed last night.

http://theunjustmedia.com/Afghanistan/Statements/March12/Afghan%20Genocide%20continues%20More%20than%2050%20civilians%20martyred%20by%20American%20terrorists.htm

[Laila]

Relatives said it was an Alikozai tribal village, I think. My best to the Alikozai.

Yes it is

Inna Lillahi wa Inna Ilahi Rajiun. Grant sabr to those families that just lost their loved ones. My duas to them. Next we are going to hear Karzai's beghairat, apologetic speech.

I just saw this picture on facebook, thought i would post it.

[Admin Khan]

I don't buy the whole "There was only one soldier" mantra. This damage is not something that only 1 soldier could do. Breaking walls, entering homes, burning children, and then they claim this "one" soldier turned himself in? There had to be a group of complicit soldiers, that intentionally planned this cowardly act against innocent civilians. By saying there was only 'one' rogue soldiers, the US is attempting to minimize the damage that has occurred here, and they are trying to restore their credibility to the Afghan people. As always, the Canadian puppet Weesa will try his level best do downplay the issue on hand.

Benawa.com wrote a pretty nice article, outlining the fact that in no way possible did one soldier commit this act of terror.

[Karpo]

this is horrifying

[mancini]

As a former US soldier who spent 15 months in Afghanistan, I am ashamed and embarrassed by this man's acts. I wish I can say I am surprised, but I have seen egregious acts of inhumanity committed by Americans on my previous deployment. Although it seemed that the officers / senior leadership genuinely cared about the Afghan people...the enlisted men were the ones who often lacked professionalism / decency.) My time in Afghanistan has shown me that the Afghan people are the most peaceful, righteous society I have ever encountered. In case there are any Afghans out there reading this, I hope you find some solace in knowing that the political situation with regards to Afghanistan has changed drastically in America. Americans are disgusted by the military's lack of professionalism, and the people of my country are mourning your losses. This war is about one thing - money. The corrupt political elite of my country make war with peace loving nations to make billions for the military-industrial complex.

[randolph85]

I don't buy the whole "There was only one soldier" mantra. This damage is not something that only 1 soldier could do. Breaking walls, entering homes, burning children, and then they claim this "one" soldier turned himself in? There had to be a group of complicit soldiers, that intentionally planned this cowardly act against innocent civilians. By saying there was only 'one' rogue soldiers, the US is attempting to minimize the damage that has occurred here, and they are trying to restore their credibility to the Afghan people. As always, the Canadian puppet Weesa will try his level best do downplay the issue on hand.

Benawa.com wrote a pretty nice article, outlining the fact that in no way possible did one soldier commit this act of terror.

very true. this seems like major damage control. it is very unlikely that one man did all this, on top of burning the bodies of the dead, if they were even dead at that point. but of course we will probably never know the truth of what happened there yesterday. may allah grant jannah to the victims.

what really gets at me though is when western afghans repeat the whole "this plays right into the hands of the taliban" thing. the taliban are a footnote in afghan history, there are 30 million afghans who will feel something in their hearts because of this issue. the taliban has nothing to do with it, lives that were sacred have been lost. this goes for all the deaths in afghanistan caused by all sides.

[کیش]

How credible is Alemarah's report on the issue?

[faye]

these are all disgusting murders. these are only the ones that make the headlines though.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

This is utterly shameful and barbaric beyond what words can describe. To murder defenseless women and children in their homes without any purpose and then desecrating their remains is something one wouldn't even inflict on his worst enemies.

This behaviour brings back memories of Vietnam and Korea, where entire villages were wiped out by bloodthirsty American soldiers.

Whatever little justification the US had left to stay in Afghanistan has now all but vanished, given the Quran incident and now this. Furthermore, al-Qaeda is now routed and it has been proven that its masters were in Islamabad and not Kandahar. Moreover, in these last ten years, the West, with its trillions of dollars, has spent $10,000 each on bombs dropped on Afghanistan but no substantial sum has been spent properly for any sort of viable and sustainable development in the country.

I don't see how any continuing American presence will benefit Afghanistan in any way or form. A soldier simply doesn't just go insane and then carry out such a well-executed and obviously predetermined act of terrorism.

What makes this situation even worse is how this soldier will be punished - he will be "dishonorably" discharged and be sentenced to a summer camp for 6 months. Then he will write about how good it felt to do what he did.

[sunni]

In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

The so called American peace keepers have once again quenched their thirst with the blood of innocent Afghan civilians in Kandahar province. According to recent reports arriving from the area, the American invaders backed by their puppets (ANA) left their base last night (11/03/2012) and raided several homes of locals, located near their base in Balambi village of Panjwaee district.

Witnesses from the scene say that during the raids, the American terrorists and their puppets shot the household members at point blank range and so far 50 bodies have been found and recovered by the villagers among which, 11 are from the home of Muhammad Wazir including himself. The unsuspecting innocent victims have been sprayed with hundreds of bullets and have been cold-bloodedly martyred.

The villagers say that this genocidal act, carried out by Americans and their hireling ANA took place last night at around midnight, adding that due to tens of civilians taking shelter in safe houses to protect themselves from this horror, many bodies have not yet been found which could potentially increase the number of casualties.

In this night time operation, the barbaric American terrorists have also burnt down a number of homes of the ordinary people. Some news outlets have cited the Americans as saying that the casualties have been caused by airstrikes however the villagers categorically reject this claim and invite all to examine the victims who have either been shot or have been martyred by hand grenades hurled inside their rooms. Most of the victims are local villagers, women and children.

Alemara website is trying to gather the names of the victims and other details of this crime committed last night.

http://theunjustmedia.com/Afghanista...terrorists.htm

such a sad day!!

^i dont like being sad, we want a revenge....kill them all in afghanistan, no one should leave afghanistan alive, NO ONE.

[Manzareh]

No doubt the families will be seeking revenge, and no doubt when they do they will be dubbed as Talibans, when infact they have nothing to do with Taliban.

[Manzareh]

what is the maximum punishment the guilty soldier can get? i hope its not just a couple of months off work or something as ridiculously typical as that.

[KhyberKhan]

may they rest in peace!

this is what they have gone to do in our villages...

also um how did he just "walk" out? i thought all barracks were manned 24/7 watching who comes in and out? and they no he left at 03:00am in the morning.. didnt bother to stop him and ask where your going on your own? he was allowed to just leave base fully armed on his own... yh ok i believe that!!! and he reportedly suffered a breakdown just before.. if he broke the **** down and you no! then why was no1 watching the ****er?:@ somethings just dont add up:@! bull**** cover up ****ing story!

There was a team of them. There's a history of killing civillians for fun in the US army, remember Team Stryker Unit a while back that use to kill Afghan civillians and cut of their fingers as trophies? They only got caught cos they tried to take the trophies back to the states.

But the history of Americas blood thirsty savagery goes way back, remember haditha in Iraq where US forces raped a girl then killed her family and burnt her body? it's systematic and institutionalised killing that's ordered from the top. Look at Abu Graib prison. Baghram is just the same, but it hasnt got the publicity or the leaked images yet. The United State of Assasins butchery streches back to even the vietnam conflict and beyond that to wiping out the native indians with small pox.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

Back to Afghanistan.

This "soldier" was working with US special forces who have a kill team based in Kandahar i.e Go out on night raids and shoot up homes and whoever seems to get in their way without questions asked. What's most concerning is that there's reports coming out now that ANA assisted in this kill mission.