Balochistan´s cristalization very soon?

[Karachi]

^ Yeah like in every other country the Intel agencies hold a public ballot for every decision they make..and Balochistan's solution like every other province rests in a balanced negotiation of powers with the center

Intel agencies are the evil problem, especially an agency like ISI which has brought nothing but harm to the country and region and if you support them blindly then people like you are part of the problem, I am sure you agree with every thing guys like Ziad Hamid say

[JattApache]

The best solution is independance for them

I don't say that because i'm indian or anti-pakistani
I have a lot of respect for the punjabis brothers at the other side of the border, i just hate Isi and governments of pakistan

[Karachi]

The best solution is independance for them

I don't say that because i'm indian or anti-pakistani
I have a lot of respect for the punjabis brothers at the other side of the border, i just hate Isi and governments of pakistan

isn't indian army also mostly sikh punjabi dominated?

[JattApache]

isn't indian army also mostly sikh punjabi dominated?

^ yes
But punjabis aren't dominating india
Punjabis are dominating pakistan

[Wahe Guru]

isn't indian army also mostly sikh punjabi dominated?

Indian army has slowly reduced number of sikh soldiers, but officers still is a good percentage of Sikhs. Sikhs are also not now keen to join the army as much as before.

[Wahe Guru]

Intel agencies are the evil problem, especially an agency like ISI which has brought nothing but harm to the country and region and if you support them blindly then people like you are part of the problem, I am sure you agree with every thing guys like Ziad Hamid say

What you said is true. ISI lives in a fools paradise of trying to make Afghanistan its colony (almost), and that policy has hurt Pakistan and ordinary Pakistanis a lot. Ordinary Pakistanis are very good people - except you have a section of Pakistani people who are somewhat deluded about India and Indians.

India is very difficult to dislodge from Kashmir. It is virtually impossible for Pakistan to do that. Pakistan thought it would be so easy, after Russia had to quit from Afghanistan - but ISI might now be slowly realising the truth. I have been to Kashmir. There was no repression there until ISI ignited Kashmir, afer Russians quit from Afghanistan.

[Karachi]

What you said is true. ISI lives in a fools paradise of trying to make Afghanistan its colony (almost), and that policy has hurt Pakistan and ordinary Pakistanis a lot. Ordinary Pakistanis are very good people - except you have a section of Pakistani people who are somewhat deluded about India and Indians.

India is very difficult to dislodge from Kashmir. It is virtually impossible for Pakistan to do that. Pakistan thought it would be so easy, after Russia had to quit from Afghanistan - but ISI might now be slowly realising the truth. I have been to Kashmir. There was no repression there until ISI ignited Kashmir, afer Russians quit from Afghanistan.

this is not really true, the fight for kashmir has been going on since the formation of pakistan, through out history most kashmiries have wanted to be independent or be part of pakistan, never India, but now the times have changed, most kashmiries realize they have nothing to gain with being part of pakistan now, but even today most still want Independence from India

[DaMalakandGhar]

In the years since the war of Independence (1857) till WWI, Punjabis were inducted massively in the British colonial army because they were more wholesome and there were little chances of their reprisal against British.

In the WWI, some Pakhtun units revolted against British at the war front of Gali Poli out of religious sentiments for Turks whereas Punjabis stayed loyal to the British masters so much so that a British general later commented, "Punjabis were steadfast like a rock whereas a great question mark hangs over the Pathan". Therefore, the proportion of Pakhtuns in British army was reduced significantly after the war.

After WW1, Sikhs were influenced by communistic and other leftist ideologies e.g. Baghat Singh and therefore became politically unreliable. Their recruitment in the colonial army was thus reduced. The recruitment of Punjabi Musalmans i.e., PMs as Britis fondly called them for their loyalty to British, was proportionally increased. When WWII ended, the British Indian army was very Punjabi heavy.

After partition of India, India broadened the ethnic base of its army by recruiting non-Punjabis into its army in proportionate numbers thus reducing Punjabi influence in the army but in Pakistan, Punjabis resisted any such move e.g. induction of Bangalis, Sindhis, Baluchis, and even more Paskhtuns in Paki army was resisted vehemently by Punjabis.

Today, 80% of Paki army is Punjabi. And this army has imperial ambitions. It wants to conquer Kashmir to secure head waters of the rivers flowing into Punjab plains and to tape its potential for tourism and annex Afghanistan through Taliban proxies i.e., the so-called Mullah Omar, Haqqani, Gulbuddin, etc. to gain access to energy rich Central Asia. Any such annexation is also necessary for preempting potential Pashtun nationalist threat.

And here it is on confrontation course with other powers e.g. India, Russia, US, Europe, Iran, etc. that also have regional or global interests and that consider a stable Afghanistan important for the realization of their interests. For the first time in history, Punjabis are floating against the tides of time and it seems will be beaten mercilessly by other powers as they did with Sunni Arabs in Iraq.

[DaMalakandGhar]

It is a tactic of Punjabis in Pakistan to blame the deprivation of Baluch people on Bauch sardar as Talal is doing here. Nothing can be far from reality. Most of the Baluch feudal lords have been collaborators with Paki army in the past. So the state sustained the sardari system.

Furthermore, if the Paki state couldn't curb feudalism in Baluchistan and improve the lot of the Baluch people rather did the exact opposite i.e., strengthened the sardari system to rule Baluch people through an imperial style arrangement and plunder Baluch resources, then Paki state has no utility for Baluch people. That is why they want to get rid of it.

[NokiaWnW]

In the years since the war of Independence (1857) till WWI, Punjabis were inducted massively in the British colonial army because they were more wholesome and there were little chances of their reprisal against British.

In the WWI, some Pakhtun units revolted against British at the war front of Gali Poli out of religious sentiments for Turks whereas Punjabis stayed loyal to the British masters so much so that a British general later commented, "Punjabis were steadfast like a rock whereas a great question mark hangs over the Pathan". Therefore, the proportion of Pakhtuns in British army was reduced significantly after the war.

After WW1, Sikhs were influenced by communistic and other leftist ideologies e.g. Baghat Singh and therefore became politically unreliable. Their recruitment in the colonial army was thus reduced. The recruitment of Punjabi Musalmans i.e., PMs as Britis fondly called them for their loyalty to British, was proportionally increased. When WWII ended, the British Indian army was very Punjabi heavy.

After partition of India, India broadened the ethnic base of its army by recruiting non-Punjabis into its army in proportionate numbers thus reducing Punjabi influence in the army but in Pakistan, Punjabis resisted any such move e.g. induction of Bangalis, Sindhis, Baluchis, and even more Paskhtuns in Paki army was resisted vehemently by Punjabis.

Today, 80% of Paki army is Punjabi. And this army has imperial ambitions. It wants to conquer Kashmir to secure head waters of the rivers flowing into Punjab plains and to tape its potential for tourism and annex Afghanistan through Taliban proxies i.e., the so-called Mullah Omar, Haqqani, Gulbuddin, etc. to gain access to energy rich Central Asia. Any such annexation is also necessary for preempting potential Pashtun nationalist threat.

And here it is on confrontation course with other powers e.g. India, Russia, US, Europe, Iran, etc. that also have regional or global interests and that consider a stable Afghanistan important for the realization of their interests. For the first time in history, Punjabis are floating against the tides of time and it seems will be beaten mercilessly by other powers as they did with Sunni Arabs in Iraq.

One´s profit is the suffering of the other. If Pashtuns were in the situation of Panjabis they had done the same thing. That´s natural. Just look to Afghanistan where they had the power. Pointing on others is the wrong methode. Everyone is looking for the own profit.

[abassinafghan]

nokia kandolake lapshakak , just tell me what happend in the last decade where the majority of the state was runned by non pashtuns , tell me what happend between 92 and 94 . tell me what happend from 94 till 01


i can not see that ahmad bouz masoud was any better than mullah oh khar , or rabbani did better than kharzai

the only problem are uneducated fools like you , who belive by wearing a suit and a tie , one is somehow progressive modern or successfull , kabul is full of good for nothing people like you , who take big words into their mouths , which they dont understand .



regarding the balochs , if every islamist partie in pakistan ,doesnt call the
paki goverment kafir , dont call for uprising and overthrow of this
goverment , who are taking billions for the murder and destruction of the afghan people , of the pashtuns of fellow muslims .

why are then balochs traitors and kafirs if they decide to do some politics on their own ???

so if napakistan is buddying with americans to kill muslims , they are paaaak muslims , if others seek their own interessts , they turn to be kafirs ???

[NokiaWnW]

nokia kandolake lapshakak , just tell me what happend in the last decade where the majority of the state was runned by non pashtuns , tell me what happend between 92 and 94 . tell me what happend from 94 till 01


i can not see that ahmad bouz masoud was any better than mullah oh khar , or rabbani did better than kharzai

the only problem are uneducated fools like you , who belive by wearing a suit and a tie , one is somehow progressive modern or successfull , kabul is full of good for nothing people like you , who take big words into their mouths , which they dont understand .



regarding the balochs , if every islamist partie in pakistan ,doesnt call the
paki goverment kafir , dont call for uprising and overthrow of this
goverment , who are taking billions for the murder and destruction of the afghan people , of the pashtuns of fellow muslims .

why are then balochs traitors and kafirs if they decide to do some politics on their own ???

so if napakistan is buddying with americans to kill muslims , they are paaaak muslims , if others seek their own interessts , they turn to be kafirs ???

Who run the state currently? The non Pashtoons or some thugs under the name of Hizbe islami and isi? All those wardakis are isi agents and karzai became an isi puppet. if the state would be run by all ethnicities non Pashtuns wouldn´t call it illigitimated. You cave monkey should let the language of your home in your cave and talk with my in civil language. You are a four-leg monkey and that´s all. Uneducated and dumb. Your stupid comments show you are living abroad of reality. For you pardanalat everyone is bad except those thugs in Kabul. I know you are an ethnicentric bitch. And if you Ulagh can talk with me in Pashayee I would glad because I can not understand your ****. And what I have to do what Balochs want or not or what pakistan do or not? Don´t eat the nut of ISI and you won´t get forced to hide in your caves. Very easy. Even easier than that! Become human-beeings.

This article is about Balochs and their struggle. Not about your thuggish and ISI/CIA puppet Wardak Kakas or Karzai Kaka. But I am ok with that. This is not my part since the policy of Kabul is not harming my village or city or people. As I mentioned. Everyone works for the own profits, including those criminal thugs. thank you. The sentiments of the afghan mass should be a sighn for you dog that something is going wrong. piss off

[Karachi]

nokia kandolake lapshakak , just tell me what happend in the last decade where the majority of the state was runned by non pashtuns , tell me what happend between 92 and 94 . tell me what happend from 94 till 01


i can not see that ahmad bouz masoud was any better than mullah oh khar , or rabbani did better than kharzai

the only problem are uneducated fools like you , who belive by wearing a suit and a tie , one is somehow progressive modern or successfull , kabul is full of good for nothing people like you , who take big words into their mouths , which they dont understand .



regarding the balochs , if every islamist partie in pakistan ,doesnt call the
paki goverment kafir , dont call for uprising and overthrow of this
goverment , who are taking billions for the murder and destruction of the afghan people , of the pashtuns of fellow muslims .

why are then balochs traitors and kafirs if they decide to do some politics on their own ???

so if napakistan is buddying with americans to kill muslims , they are paaaak muslims , if others seek their own interessts , they turn to be kafirs ???

Baloch are not traitors, in fact it is these religious parties who are traitors who ally themselves with pakistani army/ISI, despite knowing what they do

I personally think these radical religious parties are the source of all problems, simply because these are the people who basically brain wash the youth in joining Taliban and other terrorist groups

[abassinafghan]

nokia we all know who you are haramzadah go back to your tajikam forum , hahaha , there you can call people animals day in day out .

i mean you have to overplay your inferrior complexes by being arrogant or consider yourself any how better .

i have only one word for you : AMU DARYA , learn to swim

[NokiaWnW]

nokia we all know who you are haramzadah go back to your tajikam forum , hahaha , there you can call people animals day in day out .

i mean you have to overplay your inferrior complexes by being arrogant or consider yourself any how better .

i have only one word for you : AMU DARYA , learn to swim

Don´t worry, we Pashays have taken already sides. We know how to deal with you Paki rats in post-2014. The sky over your heads and the ground under your feets will be like hell. Let´s see how barks here. Either you go directly to Sindhu river or to Israel. Don´t worry, Afghans are there to make you another round bleeding from your backside lol

I guess those Farsiwans raped you in front of your parents that´s why you hate them so. Haramzadah is your entire family´s origin. Now do not write to me back if you can not become a human-beeing with two legs, you four-leg ghowl.