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  • #16
    ill be the first person to say the talib rule was ridiculous and pretty bad, better than what came before them though. i dislike them because of how they ruled, not who they were backed by. but i won't say they are paki slaves or have the interests of pakistan in mind when the leadership makes its decisions. what gets me though is that people still deny the paki-talib link.

    i mean, look at karzai, do u think he would of made an outburst with the paki delegation about delivering mullah omar on talks if he didn't think, or the whole damn world, that pakistan has a hand in the insurgency? would the US ruin 6 decades of an excellent paki-US relationship if they didn't know for sure that pakistan was harboring the taliban?

    what i think of the US and karzai aside, these groups do not go out of their way to make hard accusations if they, with the best intel in the world, did not believe it to be true.
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

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    • #17
      the rank and file i adore. the leadership, not so much. but not really for those reasons. many afghans are ignorant enough without an excuse of foreign meddling, they will be politicians when it suits them but hard headed afghans at other times. take the buddah destruction, there were both sides in mullah omars ear and he chose to destroy them. not that i mourn the loss, i find it a stupid decision, but i don't mourn it the same way other afghans do. i think that decision was ur classic case of a stupid hard headed afghan, much like many decisions such as harboring bin laden. while it may seem naive, i do think the taliban have grown and i think their acceptance of a qatar office has shown that. all these afghan groups are idiots, i just hope these idiots can make peace long enough for a new generation of intelligent afghans to take the reigns of leadership when these guys are dying or dead.
      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

      Sayyid Qutb

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      • #18
        while many of us do use some degree of emotional appeals regarding the Taliban, one question I posed to Ghundal which if you noticed the exchange he kept persistently dancing around even though I would provide direct responses to his questions; was if the Taliban are aware that the NATO forces patrol civilian areas deliberately, then why do they still insist on attacking during those times?

        He kept trying to counter question about Syria to divert focus; but it demonstrates the intellectual dishonesty of their apologists as well as their lack of sympathy for their own.

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        • #19
          randoplh,

          I am simply asking you for sources proving Pakistan supports the Afghan insurgency. It's not that hard to do. Let me see the sources.

          Secondly, assuming PaK support for Afghan insurgency is true for the purposes of showing your and Scimitars contradiction in regards to the Syrian insurgency is debate. If I say a cat is a dog, you can't use that statement to support your claim that a cat is a dog.


          Now provide me the sources that show Pakistan supports the Afghan insurgency .

          Also, the Wahabi Saudi extremists (same ones supporting Syrian AQ backed insurgents) support the Afghan insurgency too.


          So now you not only have your contradiction to contend with but also this old news too

          Thanks
          Last edited by Ghundal; 02-28-2012, 08:50 PM.

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          • #20
            ghundal, you'd be better served by PROVIDING YOURSELF with a life, young chap;-)

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            • #21
              that's a horrible analogy. hahahaha

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              • #22
                i understand both responses to the question. one being that its the fault of the occupation for being there in the first place. the other being that its the talibans fault entirely. i do blame the taliban for unnecessary deaths caused by their tactics, while also understanding that its the west for putting them in that situation for causing those casualties. on the flip side, thats why i blame the taliban more for afghan deaths that COULD be avoided, because they should take precautions. precautions that i don't expect of the kuffar because i know they don't care about our lives, nor do i expect them to.


                i understand its a dirty game and people will die. i won't always blame the taliban for operations that kill civilians where they shouldn't have. but when u plant a bomb on a ****in busy roadside to hit a nato vehicle....gimme a ****in break here.
                There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                Sayyid Qutb

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                • #23
                  randoplh,

                  I am simply asking you for sources proving Pakistan supports the Afghan insurgency. It's not that hard to do. Let me see the sources.

                  Secondly, assuming PaK support for Afghan insurgency is true for the purposes of showing your and Scimitars contradiction in regards to the Syrian insurgency is debate. If I say a cat is a dog, you can't use that statement to support your claim that a cat is a dog.


                  Now provide me the sources that show Pakistan supports the Afghan insurgency .

                  Also, the Wahabi Saudi extremists (same ones supporting Syrian AQ backed insurgents) support the Afghan insurgency too.


                  So now you not only have your contradiction to contend with but also this old news too

                  Thanks

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Ghundal View Post
                    randoplh,

                    I am simply asking you for sources proving Pakistan supports the Afghan insurgency. It's not that hard to do. Let me see the sources.

                    Secondly, assuming PaK support for Afghan insurgency is true for the purposes of showing your and Scimitars contradiction in regards to the Syrian insurgency is debate. If I say a cat is a dog, you can't use that statement to support your claim that a cat is a dog.


                    Now provide me the sources that show Pakistan supports the Afghan insurgency .

                    Also, the Wahabi Saudi extremists (same ones supporting Syrian AQ backed insurgents) support the Afghan insurgency too.


                    So now you not only have your contradiction to contend with but also this old news too

                    Thanks

                    hell, ur own articles should be proof enough.

                    what do u want me to show u? a picture of hamid gul making out with mullah omar? i don't know what u expect me to show u?

                    re-read ur own material.
                    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                    Sayyid Qutb

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                      hell, ur own articles should be proof enough.

                      what do u want me to show u? a picture of hamid gul making out with mullah omar? i don't know what u expect me to show u?

                      re-read ur own material.
                      Looks like you can't provide the sources to back up your claims that Pakistan supports Afghan insurgency

                      You also seem to be reluctant to adress the inconsistent logic you use regarding Afghan insurgency versus Syrian insurgency .


                      Thanks anyways for being civil and not making a clown out of yourself like Scimitar to provide sources for unbacked claims u made

                      Discuss facts , not unbacked claims

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