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  • Originally posted by khushal View Post
    Does Afghanistan recognize the Durand line. Afghanistan cant have it both ways, they cant call PAshtun east of the durand Pakistani when it suits them. Recognize the Durand and then call them paksitani.
    That's a side issue, these men have Pakistani ID cards, hence Pakistani. being Pakistani is not an ethnic designation.

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    • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge
      Mods, administration, Ghundal is spamming by the way.
      In addition to a word for word disproving of the whole above post, I also now want you to prove Pakistan support for Afghan insurgency (with several authentic sources). I want to see proof that Pakistani cash and weapons are being used by Afghan insurgency.

      I decided against addressing that for the sake of the debate

      So,

      1) provide proof that Turks are not oppressing Kurds as you said and as I disproved

      2) provide proof that Saudi Wahabis are not supporting Syruan insurgents as you said and I disproved

      3) answer everything word for word, and vet all the evidence I have linked. Perhaps it is Assad propaganda, but We need PROOF that rejects these FACTS

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      • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
        That's a side issue, these men have Pakistani ID cards, hence Pakistani. being Pakistani is not an ethnic designation.
        Afghanis have pakistani ID cards, I can get one tomorrow, it means nothing.

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        • Originally posted by badmash_khel View Post
          ^
          The biggest support Pakistan provides the insurgency is by protecting the leaders of the Taliban and so called "Quetta Shura". I think thats support, no?
          They also protect US forces and allows drones to fly in paksitani terrortory and from bases in paksitan. They provide weapons and fuel to NATO. They support both sides but the side with inferrior weapons are winning, no?

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          • Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
            Listen bruh im from a rural pashtun family and i had family in the taliban in the 90s. I dont agree with their ideologies but as pashtubs i sympathize with them

            I understand their limitations, i understand the society they came from. I am not opposed to the fact they had to be harsh, but that regime made many many mistakes.

            We can sit here and say i ubderstand how they made those mistakes but they still made them, and through their ignorance and stupidity, they delivered pashtuns to their most darkest times

            Every pashtana that was raped in the shamal, every pashtun masher that was in american detention, their pain is on mullah omars conscience

            There was moderate pragmatic voices within the taliban he sidelined, let alone the pakhtuns that went to him personally from the diaspora to plead with him to change policies
            I cant argue with that, but the Dabia of the Talib is the only way to civilize the Afghans. I am sorry to say but we are a wild bunch.

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            • Originally posted by khushal View Post
              I cant argue with that, but the Dabia of the Talib is the only way to civilize the Afghans. I am sorry to say but we are a wild bunch.
              which means that the Taliban are imposing something Afghans don't want.

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              • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                which means that the Taliban are imposing something Afghans don't want.
                Are you sure? How do you know what afghans want and not want?

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                • by what Khushal says

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                  • What is Dabia ?
                    Set of Rules or
                    Code of Conduct ?

                    Most were pretty good, like killing TV sets as a public example of how
                    to shut that programming propaganda OUT of one's life.

                    That "execution of a TV set" idea
                    has been roundly mocked by
                    American commentators.

                    But in reality, guess what?
                    For decades, many Americans have driven around with
                    bumper stickers saying :

                    KILL YOUR TV - !

                    Showing a picture of a TV with the line through it
                    in European style so as to say : Forbidden.
                    Last edited by Catya Sher; 02-29-2012, 01:57 PM.

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                    • Wow this topic has become so big, amazing. I am not going to read all of this, I can use that time and energy to read some good book.

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                      • But at the end of the day, we can talk as much as we like, we can debate and discuss, but the matter of fact and reality is that the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is coming back, stronger, more experiences, with better muslims inside it who are dedicated, who have the wisdom and experience to rule the country with the shariah and install consultation (shura)
                        between them and that will be a government which the majority of the Afghans and of course all of the good muslims will accept and help it with any means they have at their disposal, inshaa'Allah.

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                        • Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
                          What is Dabia ?
                          Set of Rules or
                          Code of Conduct ?

                          Most were pretty good, like killing TV sets as a public example of how
                          to shut that programming propaganda OUT of one's life.

                          That "execution of a TV set" idea
                          has been roundly mocked by
                          American commentators.

                          But in reality, guess what?
                          For decades, many Americans have driven around with
                          bumper stickers saying :

                          KILL YOUR TV - !

                          Showing a picture of a TV with the line through it
                          in European style so as to say : Forbidden.
                          Truth is the television is humanity's number one enemy, its the perfect trojan horse! We can sit there for years and not get out of it.

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                          • The Internet is actually worse than tv as you can interact with people and be brain washed. Catya and pakhtunzai are you going to stop using it?

                            It is also the perfect Trojan horse in many ways... Just look at ads for instance... Being thrown with ads at all times. I think it's pretty hypocritical of people if they have these beliefs..

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                            • Originally posted by Jamaludeen View Post
                              The Internet is actually worse than tv as you can interact with people and be brain washed. Catya and pakhtunzai are you going to stop using it?

                              It is also the perfect Trojan horse in many ways... Just look at ads for instance... Being thrown with ads at all times. I think it's pretty hypocritical of people if they have these beliefs..

                              I'm not sure that's true brother.

                              Without the Internet, we can't have access to independant media outlets.

                              99% of American medias are owned by Zionist Jews.

                              That's state propaganda, not information.

                              Same here in France.

                              I think Internet is better than TV but we shouldn't cross the limits.

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                              • Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post

                                I'm not sure that's true brother.

                                Without the Internet, we can't have access to independant media outlets.

                                99% of American medias are owned by Zionist Jews.

                                That's state propaganda, not information.

                                Same here in France.

                                I think Internet is better than TV but we shouldn't cross the limits.
                                I think it's quiet arrogant of people who think they are somehow superior or more intelligent than others, who cant think for themselves. There is nothing wrong with tv. It can also be used for good, if tv makes you bad or brain washes you. So do friends relatives, etc.. Does that mean we should rid ourselves from friends.

                                The Internet is actually worse than tv and there is more filth on the internet than tv. You can access all the tv channels, news, pornography etc.. Etc...so no point in saying tv=evil because Internet = the mother of all evils..
                                Last edited by JAMALUDEEN; 02-29-2012, 07:24 PM.

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