Imran wants open border with Afghanistan

[abassinafghan]

thank you amir ghaznavi that you finally get the point !!!!


@ nokia

todays world is not the world of 3000 years ago ,nor the world 2000 years ago , nor the world 60 years ago !!!

if we want to survive as a nation as a people , and get out of poverty and those c
onditions we need a stable access to the sea , so we can use our soil as a transit route , but also for exports of our own country .

the balochs would be more willing to cooperate with us , than they would with the iranians /rest pakis /indians , both of our nations are compared small and weak towards their neighbours( iran /india ) , we need eacht other . and because none could actually overtake the other we could make a deal . a fair deal .


i know , that people like you are against this , you always have been , and you

were paid by the pakis/british for sabotaging every strong afghan

goverment , to not let come up this issue.....


you belive that you will be only just a nuisance ,if this would happen , so you

prefer to live a paki/iranian/arab/ american boot as long some of your donkeys

can sit next to kharzai or you can cash in some rishwat , mean while the

majority of your people live the same ****ty life like us ...


grow up kid , and burry the potrait of the national goat and his facist ideas ...

[NokiaWnW]

thank you amir ghaznavi that you finally get the point !!!!


@ nokia

todays world is not the world of 3000 years ago ,nor the world 2000 years ago , nor the world 60 years ago !!!

if we want to survive as a nation as a people , and get out of poverty and those c
onditions we need a stable access to the sea , so we can use our soil as a transit route , but also for exports of our own country .

the balochs would be more willing to cooperate with us , than they would with the iranians /rest pakis /indians , both of our nations are compared small and weak towards their neighbours( iran /india ) , we need eacht other . and because none could actually overtake the other we could make a deal . a fair deal .


i know , that people like you are against this , you always have been , and you

were paid by the pakis/british for sabotaging every strong afghan

goverment , to not let come up this issue.....


you belive that you will be only just a nuisance ,if this would happen , so you

prefer to live a paki/iranian/arab/ american boot as long some of your donkeys

can sit next to kharzai or you can cash in some rishwat , mean while the

majority of your people live the same ****ty life like us ...


grow up kid , and burry the potrait of the national goat and his facist ideas ...

How you want to achieve this? By taking Baloch lands? Claiming on Pakistani ground? Who will support you? Many countries have no acces to the sea or ocears, ports or whatever. They all can survive. Why not Afghanistan? Balochs want their own BALOCHISTAN, an OWN STATE. For them there is no difference between a Pathan or a Panjabi. Both are a threat to them and their country. Afghanistan could survive without any ports before and it will today and tomorrow.

Ps: ify ou go to Afghanistan you think you live in the 16th cntury...

[Ghundal]

How you want to achieve this? By taking Baloch lands? Claiming on Pakistani ground? Who will support you? Many countries have no acces to the sea or ocears, ports or whatever. They all can survive. Why not Afghanistan? Balochs want their own BALOCHISTAN, an OWN STATE. For them there is no difference between a Pathan or a Panjabi. Both are a threat to them and their country. Afghanistan could survive without any ports before and it will today and tomorrow.

Ps: ify ou go to Afghanistan you think you live in the 16th cntury...

Balochis are very close with Pashtuns. There is in fact no animosity .

I don't know where you get your ideas from

Afghans have a right to port access .

Balochistan province is made up of both Pashtuns and Balochis- and there are no problems.

[abassinafghan]

saiko kandolake farsisaban , i know your eminent love for the iranians or your tajik/turcic breed on the other side of the amu darya .


an idependent balochistan would be in every ones interesst , the balochs are

not only culturly close to us , but also political .just look into history .

we share common interessts and we both face common enemies , today iranians and pakis , tomorow maybe if a break up occurs , iranian and indians .

so to get a fair trade agreement , can only be in the interest of the baloch nation . because we are no threat to them ,we are too weak and small in every regard to be a threat to them . !!!!
however the iranians , with their 70 mio population and the indians/punjabis with their bilions are !!!! its not about occupiying or interacting but just of having good relations , which we can not have with the kufar pakis , who want to subdue us .




the opposite would be the case , if a corridor to the port of the gawandar would be opend , also the central asian republics would profit , what do you think all this war is about ? ever heard of the new silk route ? the point is intstead others taking advantage of us we should our fair share of this new silk route .


its not about occupiying or interacting but just of having good relations ,

which we can not have with the kufar pakis , who want to subdue us .


so intstead daal khors blocking supply and exchange of our goods because
they dont like the political development in kabul , we would have with a free balochistan ,a much better relationship , because we would be codependent .





and by the way i guess a samarkandi mohajar like you will never understand this , because you are to limited in your thoughts as in your education to understand this issue .

Afghanistan could survive without any ports before and it will today and tomorrow.

Ps: ify ou go to Afghanistan you think you live in the 16th cntury...

surviving is one thing , you can also survive and live the life we live today , but you can not prosper and you can not take advantage of your resourcess as your geostrategical position .

and your comment indicats ,we should keep being backwarded and underdeveloped ? because of war and our economical dependence on others ???


people like you should be just shoot dead , its true farsisabans like you should be deported back , where they come from .

[Ghundal]

Abassi,

New Silk Road was a failed and pathetic attempt to impose Western control over Asian trade. With China reigning supreme, it is an idea already in the dustbin, just like the TAPI pipeline which will never see the light of day as long as Western nations are trying to prop it up. For now, China controls how the dynamics of the region play out. They have increased oil trade with Iran in their own currencies.


There will be oil pipelines to Afghanistan. Afghanistan will most likely have a pipeline with Iran in the future.

Balochistan also has oil, and an open border would allows more oil from Balochistan to go to Afghanistan.


The New Silk Road is the MOST laughable idea ever to be cooked up the the West.

[JattApache]

Balochis are very close with Pashtuns. There is in fact no animosity .

I don't know where you get your ideas from

Afghans have a right to port access .

Balochistan province is made up of both Pashtuns and Balochis- and there are no problems.

Only the north balochistan province.

The south belongs to baloch people

[NokiaWnW]

Balochis are very close with Pashtuns. There is in fact no animosity .

I don't know where you get your ideas from

Afghans have a right to port access .

Balochistan province is made up of both Pashtuns and Balochis- and there are no problems.

You live in a dream world. Please go and visit all those Baloch forums and groups and see what they think about us and the claims on their Baloch lands. Stop fooling yourself. They want their own state, an independent Balochistan. Pashtuns are concentrated in the north but Gwadar is not part of KP. They may get their freedom from Pakistan by US support so why should they give up again their freedom for Afghanistan? They know the fear of population movement and shaping.

[abassinafghan]

the new silk road is not a joke , but the reason why this war is lead at all ,

the thinktanks which produced it , did it even back in the early 90s , its not only a east west road but actually a north south .

do you really think that europeans and americans , spending so much money

resourcess and men , are just going away ?

the europeans are even more dependent of this trade route than the americans , if the russians block their pipelines , in europe the people sit in cold nights .

the aim of the americans or the westerners is to establish a more or less strong goverment , which is ruling according to western interessts , the reason why they failed is because they collected the **** of a nation and put them into power .


the iranians as the paki/chinese are not our friends nor are they interessted in our independence , just look back to the 90s , no more comments on this .

we need a strong and stable goverment , and a player on top , who can play out our enemies against each other .

but instead that we fool our enemies and play them out , they use us as chess figueres .

narrowminded people who are happy about a few milions and the rule over bare soil are the ones who has power today . not realizing what they could achieve .


but for a strong and independent country we need the foundations , and most

important is the economical independence and selfsufficens , and without

a stable access to the sea this is not possible .

[Ghundal]

My friend, the new silk road and tapir pipeline are non starters. It's never going to happen with US involvement.

Let's be frank. Asia is not clapping to a US/Western agenda. There will be no US bases in Afghanistan . I don't say this wishfully, but factually.

This is Chinas century, and they along with Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and a free and independent Afghanistan are not clapping to a US/Western agenda .

The economies of the West will never recover. Iran along with China and several other countries are dumping the US dollar

The US occupation in Afghanistan and the region is the source of instability.

A New Silk Road will only be controlled by Asia with China at the helm.

You can read this over and over.

peace will come to Afghanistan when the US leaves.

Karzai's era is simply over along with the northern alliance

[Ghundal]

Lol.

Yeah they will leave. Even Pakistan double game has undermined them?

Afghans will never tolerate foreign occupation. They will either leave now, and attempt to save their economies, or as fools will leave later , and have no economy

The era of the West is over.

China is the new world power, and can not be challenged by the West at all.

Silk road is only possible with a free Afghanistan, China, Pakistan, and Iran.

The West has no say at all- their economies have already failed

[JattApache]

My friend, the new silk road and tapir pipeline are non starters. It's never going to happen with US involvement.

Let's be frank. Asia is not clapping to a US/Western agenda. There will be no US bases in Afghanistan . I don't say this wishfully, but factually.

This is Chinas century, and they along with Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and a free and independent Afghanistan are not clapping to a US/Western agenda .

The economies of the West will never recover. Iran along with China and several other countries are dumping the US dollar

The US occupation in Afghanistan and the region is the source of instability.

A New Silk Road will only be controlled by Asia with China at the helm.

You can read this over and over.

peace will come to Afghanistan when the US leaves.

Karzai's era is simply over along with the northern alliance

You forgot india ( which is independant and have good relationship with iran ), and which also want an independant afghanistan
You also forgot to answered about balochistan