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[NokiaWnW]

Nokia WnM,

"I heard Qanuni and Ata. Ata´s son himself claimed that one day when I wrote to him that.." I thought so of the affinity my boy. If it quaks like a duck then it must be a duck.


"Maybe federalism." Nice revelation of you thought spin and where it stops. Neither will there be another civil war, so is federalism where NA monkeys once again play with the people's life for their own ends out of question, and never will Afghanistan ever partition.

What do you think about the current situation, in Afghanistan, a state, a multi-ethnical and multi-cultural state, where different ethnicities fight eachother on every level? Currently, we have a centralizd government. That is most of the reasons why this government will fall apart. Don´t you can listen to the sounds of war coming near? We need a government where everyone can be part of it. If you have another solution than please provide us with your ideas. I am very interested. Federalism would be good because the ''NA monkies'' could only hold their own notherns parts and the Taliban monkies their parts where they are welcomed and legitimated. What is wrong with that?

[badmash_khel]

My solution is join Tajikistan and parts of Uzbekistan into one entity called khorasan/Aria/Bactria and join pakhtunkhwa from pakistan with pashtun areas of Afghanistan and call it Afghanistan/pashtunistan province. These two federal states together should be known as United States of Arians. Pashto should be the official/national language in Afghanistan/pashtunistan and farsi in khorasan/bactria.
Both states should have visa agreements and free trade agreements with each other. Sort of like european union.

Both of these states should also have agreements with Iran, uzbekistan, turkmenistan, punjabistan, kashmir and all other neighbours and make an islamic union of south/central asia.

Now back to reality. I think there might be another pointless civil war if the hardline Talib elements are not exterminated.

[ComradePashtun]

What do you think about the current situation, in Afghanistan, a state, a multi-ethnical and multi-cultural state, where different ethnicities fight eachother on every level? Currently, we have a centralizd government. That is most of the reasons why this government will fall apart. Don´t you can listen to the sounds of war coming near? We need a government where everyone can be part of it. If you have another solution than please provide us with your ideas. I am very interested. Federalism would be good because the ''NA monkies'' could only hold their own notherns parts and the Taliban monkies their parts where they are welcomed and legitimated. What is wrong with that?

The current situation in Afghanistan is one of calm and everyone getting on with their lives. Come and see it yourself. What does multi-ethnic and multi-culture got anything to do with a political system? No this is not the reason, do not think too much of yourself - if anything the current centralized system has put Afghanistan on recovery, state building and consolidation, and as well as stability course/path than you could have imagined anything with your so called federalism/warlord fiefdoms...! We have already had that experience in the last two decades and with some very good examples in our history.

Your NA monkeys are like germs which thrive in filth in which case it would no rule of law, your so called federalism which would mean chaos and warlordism and instability. Right now they are at the cusp of their demise and fragmented like true warlords with no genuine political agenda or any kind of righteous cause which you would like us to believe. They (warlords) have no common denominator on any political issue, policy or national matter. So question is why are they and their politically illiterate associates in the west like as an example like you keep parroting federalism? We have a saying in Pashtu which goes as "laar sa da khoboona dee seen/river ta owaya". Got it? Meaning go an tell you nice dream tales to a flowing river.

As for your question on the sounds of war nearing and if I can hear it: NO IT DON'T! Everything is kushty!

What problem do you find with the current presidential system? No scare mongering though, no really cares about warlords and NA or even Taliban. Taliban should be made peace with and incorporated in to the current political process, political reconstruction and state-building or in other term Afghanistan's consolidation to become an effective state in the region.

I reiterate the current system is the right one for Afghanistan and in its right context.

[NokiaWnW]

hahaha the current system is the reason for all failures in Afghanistan. It is not a secret that Karzai is playing again wrong one-side politics. But who are you stone age monkies to talk here or insult anyone?´You jerk live in the west since Mujaheddin k*** your backs red and blue and now you still bark from your well-fare state. Keep farting. Talk diplomatic and logical or let it be and don´t get personal. Some of you guys were surely raped by some of those NA monkies lol

http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=25582

[NokiaWnW]

The Coming Civil War in AfghanistanBy the end of this summer, the 30,000 U.S. troops "surged" into Afghanistan by President Barack Obama's administration will have returned home. And according to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, the remaining 68,000 American soldiers could end their combat role in Afghanistan by mid-2013, more than a year ahead of the White House's deadline for leaving the country.



America's war in Afghanistan is by no means over, but its end has already begun. That reality is clear to all Afghan factional chiefs and power brokers, who are preparing for the transition to a post-American Afghanistan. As Afghanistan's alliances and power dynamics shift, the risk of cvil, ethnic conflict breaking out in the country rises -- endangering not only Afghans, but their Pakistani neighbors as well. And ironically, talk of peace and a U.S. withdrawal is contributing to a widening gap between key Afghan factions, which, if not properly contained, could lead to a renewed civil war.
President Hamid Karzai's intentions remain one potential source of instability looming in Afghanistan's future. Karzai has said that he will retire from public office in 2014, but many Afghans believe he will remain in power through unconventional or extra-constitutional measures. The president reportedly supported U.S. plans to accelerate the withdrawal by a year, lending weight to the theory that he is looking for greater maneuverability to prolong his rule.
If Karzai steps down, his replacement -- should one not come from his own family -- is likely to adopt a more hostile approach toward the Taliban, increasing the odds that the insurgency will fester. Abdullah Abdullah, who came in second in the rigged 2009 elections and could throw his hat in the ring once again, is a major Taliban opponent. But if Karzai seeks to stick around, doing so will be no cakewalk. Karzai will face stiff resistance from both a parliament that increasingly demands an expansion of its oversight powers and a rejuvenated political opposition, the National Front for Afghanistan (NFA).
The NFA is a bloc of leaders from three major non-Pashtun communities -- the Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazara -- all of whom opposed the Taliban and Pakistan during the 1990s and remain hostile to both. As Karzai apparently seeks to hold on to executive power, the NFA is pushing for an overhaul of the country's political system. It advocates restructuring Afghanistan as a parliamentary democracy with proportional representation and locally-devolved power -- both of which would benefit non-Pashtuns.
Karzai, an ethnic Pashtun, seeks a political settlement with the three major insurgent factions -- all Pashtuns as well -- led by Mullah Muhammad Omar's AfghanTaliban. But the NFA, as well as a large bloc of parliamentarians from a diverse assortment of ethnic groups and political parties, are hostile to talks with the Taliban, and will at the very least demand a meaningful role in the peace process.
That remains difficult to imagine, as few Afghans aside from the insurgents remain involved in the peace talks. The most promising dialogue track has so far taken place outside of Afghanistan and involves the Afghan Taliban and the governments of Germany, Qatar, and the United States. The location of the Taliban's new office in Qatar was decided against the wishes of the Afghan government, which wanted the office to be in Ankara or Riyadh.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/02/03/the_coming_civil_war_in_afghanistan?page=0%2C0

Your opinion on this?

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

The issue is not centralism. The issue is an ineffective ethnicized centralized govt

Was the Taliban bad because it was a centralized govt, or because it was a Pashtun dominated ideological oppressive centralized govt?

The good the Taliban were able to do, like bringing law and order, securing the country and disarming the populace was due to it being a strong centralized state

[ComradePashtun]

hahaha the current system is the reason for all failures in Afghanistan. It is not a secret that Karzai is playing again wrong one-side politics. But who are you stone age monkies to talk here or insult anyone?´You jerk live in the west since Mujaheddin k*** your backs red and blue and now you still bark from your well-fare state. Keep farting. Talk diplomatic and logical or let it be and don´t get personal. Some of you guys were surely raped by some of those NA monkies lol

http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=25582

You discuss politics like a goon and since it not your cup of tea I suggest you stop barking out diplomacy and other words which you pull out of your raped NA aaas! Rather than evading them you should tackle the points I raised and the question I posed to you monkey. I see a looser in you.

[ComradePashtun]

Your opinion on this?

You should read my very first post and you will find a very good answer but since you are dumb you wont get.
And you lied that you are Pashtun. Hahahah you clown lol.