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    My question to you people. What do you expect from post-2014? How will Afghanistan looks like? How can we face the coming problems? What can we do who in the West to help the country? Please, stay realistic.
    Last edited by Guest; 01-28-2012, 06:39 PM.

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    I think people should build hospitals, schools, colleges, and orphanages

    I think thats all Afghans/Pashtuns in the West should do. I think they should never get involved in government or politics since they have no right whatsoever, and the record shows that their intentions are wicked, evil, and cowardly, and that they do not have the interest of people at heart. Obviously, there are exceptions like Dr. Miraki who actively helps with schools and food.

    Afghanistan does not need Western expats - Spantas or Karzais to steal money from the people and support war on the country
    Last edited by Ghundal; 01-28-2012, 07:04 PM.

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    • #3
      All resources (oil, gold) will probably be nationalized

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ghundal View Post
        I think people should build hospitals, schools, colleges, and orphanages

        I think thats all Afghans/Pashtuns in the West should do. I think they should never get involved in government or politics since they have no right whatsoever, and the record shows that their intentions are wicked, evil, and cowardly, and that they do not have the interest of people at heart. Obviously, there are exceptions like Dr. Miraki who actively helps with schools and food.

        Afghanistan does not need Western expats - Spantas or Karzais to steal money from the people and support war on the country
        Yes, great words. But how to deal with Pakistan and their lobbyists and their sponsored terrorists who destroy schools, hospitals, crack down the universal human rights ..? or the other threat from the north, the Northern Alliance?

        And if you ask me I wouldn´t count on Miraki. He is a pro-Taliban sympathizer and support every kind of conflicts in Afghanistan. He was thrown out from the university because of his sick ideology. However, we can not keep away from politics. Politics are part of our daily life and we have to manage politics in the consens of our every right otherwise other people will come and claim our rights for themself.

        Ps: don´t think only about Pashtuns. Think national for Afghanistan.

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        • #5
          Dr. Miraki is ANTI WAR

          Any piece of dirt who is pro WAR should be banned from Afghanistan and the entire region

          War criminals


          pakistan has been supporting US war, and this has created instability in the region and is the barrier to peace you clown




          Any PRO WAR crap is a murderer and a coward
          Last edited by Ghundal; 01-28-2012, 09:25 PM.

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          • #6
            Afghanistan will be stronger if we unite. pashtun and minorities should all unite under afghan name. we are one people. i love north and south.

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            • #7
              there is around 300,000 thousand afghan/americans= lobby group. the israelis can do it. why not the afghans?

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              • #8
                From what I can observe there might be a downside slope in some respects, instant wise that we might see economic slowdown - while on the other hand we may well witness a transition period which hopefully (with some up and downs) may bring a lasting political stability to Afghanistan. I am mostly an optimist. :_)

                NokiaWnW,

                If you don't mind me asking you, what is your own ethnic background? It is just that some time you have abstruse way of coming across. No pan intended.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                  From what I can observe there might be a downside slope in some respects, instant wise that we might see economic slowdown - while on the other hand we may well witness a transition period which hopefully (with some up and downs) may bring a lasting political stability to Afghanistan. I am mostly an optimist. :_)

                  NokiaWnW,

                  If you don't mind me asking you, what is your own ethnic background? It is just that some time you have abstruse way of coming across. No pan intended.

                  I´m a Safi. Why?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by faye View Post
                    there is around 300,000 thousand afghan/americans= lobby group. the israelis can do it. why not the afghans?
                    That number is way over exaggerated. I belief theirs only around 50,000 Afghan Americans. And this number can be broken down even more. They are Afghans who don't like being Afghan, And could care less what happens with Afghanistan. that decreases that number by 25-75%.

                    America only has about 4 million Muslims in the whole country.
                    Last edited by کیش; 01-29-2012, 10:48 AM.

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                    • #11
                      300,000 was the stats from the afghan embassy in washington, for 2011. 40,000 are said to be in san fran, alone.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by faye View Post
                        300,000 was the stats from the afghan embassy in washington, for 2011. 40,000 are said to be in san fran, alone.
                        Over exaggerated numbers.

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                        • #13
                          ok..ok. forget it. just do nuttin.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by کیش View Post
                            Over exaggerated numbers.
                            Not at all. I disagree. Queens alone, according to many, has nearly 10-20K Afghans. Have you been to Virginia? Have you visited Masjid-As-Salaheen on a Friday for Jummah?
                            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by faye View Post
                              there is around 300,000 thousand afghan/americans= lobby group. the israelis can do it. why not the afghans?
                              Israelis are highly educated. Afghans are only now beginning to flood universities. Israelis are 10 steps ahead of Pakistani and Afghans.
                              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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