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  • #16
    Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
    One might have doubts about Nek Mohammad and Baitullah Mehsud but there are no doubts whatsoever about the personality of Hakimullah Mehsud, during whose time dozens of bombs ripped through Pushtunkhwa, killing thousands of innocent people.

    He bombed the World Food Program office, he attacked various police stations, his attacks on police checkpoints killed mainly civilians, his men destroyed all the schools they could get their hands on, he helped institutionalize the kidnapping business, he helped institutionalize the buying and selling of child suicide-bombers, he attacked a volleyball match in Lakki Marwat, killing 105 people, he bombed a market in Peshawar killing dozens, he bombed a refugee gathering in Kohat, killing 41 and there are dozens upon dozens of other attacks on mosques, markets, schools and other civilian areas.

    And most of his civilian targets are Pashtuns.

    All these people living in the West think that Hakimullah was some sort of a hero for fighting the Pakistani army but they're mistaken. Yes, he took on the Punjabi army but not for the sake of Pashtuns, it was to continue his criminal enterprises and rule Waziristan as a king. Ask any Pashtun from Pashtunkhwa what they think about this Hakimullah or better still, ask a Mehsud.
    any proof for these allegations? did he accept responsibility for these operations?

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    • #17
      there were conflicting reports about this. has it been 'verified'. he could be faking it.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
        There are no proofs which relate TTP to this attack.

        Islam comes first,and it is among all muslims,do not spare anyone who renegade and is a traitor,do not spare pashtun,arab,pakistani anyone else of your own.If anyone believes that he is a pashtun and becomes a dog of the pakistanis or the amerian terrorists,tell him he will end bullet-]riddled if he continues this way.

        If we go by that logic, Hakimullah should have killed Baitullah Mehsud when he offered to send his militants to the Pakistan-India border after the post-2008-Mumbai-attack military build-up in India.

        Baitullah and Hakimullah were not separatists. Only secular Pashtun nationalists are separatists. Religious Pashtuns are the most fervent believers in Pakistan. Baitullah and Hakimullah were against the Pakistani army but they believed in the Pakistani state and its ideology.


        Originally posted by badmash_khel View Post
        any proof for these allegations? did he accept responsibility for these operations?
        The Marwats raised Lashkars and drove out the TTP from Bannu and Lakki Marwat. In retaliation, the TTP attacked their gathering. Of course they wouldn't claim responsibility after so many civilians died. But who else had the means and reasons to attack them? Mullah Nazir and Hafiz Gul? But they're pro-Pak. The CIA? Why would they attack their allies? Of course it was the TTP. It takes a lot of naivety to deny that.

        After all, it must be a very big coincidence that just after the TTP was dislodged and dispersed after 2010, the number of suicide bombings in Peshawar and KP also decreased drastically at the same time.

        Normally, the TTP shy away from claiming responsibility when too many civilians die in their attacks. However, in some cases, they do own up to their acts:

        Taliban claim responsibility for deadly UN blast | World news | The Guardian

        Peshawar blasts: Taliban claim responsibility for female suicide attack – The Express Tribune

        Taliban claim responsibility for 27 killed in suicide blast in Hangu, Pakistan

        Blast kills 36 in Peshawar; Taliban claim responsibility | | DAWN.COM

        Taliban claim responsibility for suicide bombing at Jamrud mosque
        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
          One might have doubts about Nek Mohammad and Baitullah Mehsud but there are no doubts whatsoever about the personality of Hakimullah Mehsud, during whose time dozens of bombs ripped through Pushtunkhwa, killing thousands of innocent people.

          He bombed the World Food Program office, he attacked various police stations, his attacks on police checkpoints killed mainly civilians, his men destroyed all the schools they could get their hands on, he helped institutionalize the kidnapping business, he helped institutionalize the buying and selling of child suicide-bombers, he attacked a volleyball match in Lakki Marwat, killing 105 people, he bombed a market in Peshawar killing dozens, he bombed a refugee gathering in Kohat, killing 41 and there are dozens upon dozens of other attacks on mosques, markets, schools and other civilian areas.

          And most of his civilian targets are Pashtuns.

          All these people living in the West think that Hakimullah was some sort of a hero for fighting the Pakistani army but they're mistaken. Yes, he took on the Punjabi army but not for the sake of Pashtuns, it was to continue his criminal enterprises and rule Waziristan as a king. Ask any Pashtun from Pashtunkhwa what they think about this Hakimullah or better still, ask a Mehsud.
          The cause of all the bloodshed was due to the invasion of FATA. the invasion made this man, the man didnt made the invasion.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            The cause of all the bloodshed was due to the invasion of FATA. the invasion made this man, the man didnt made the invasion.
            There have been two invasions of FATA from 2001 onwards.

            The first came when Nek Mohammad invited al-Qaeda, the IMU and a whole bunch of other fighters into Waziristan after the October 2001 US invasion of Afghanistan. Subsequently, Nek and his foreign allies began attacking the local tribal leadership, killing up to 1,500 tribal leaders in the process. When Baitullah took power, he wasn't even a tribal malik and his ascent was only made possible after the Mehsud tribal leadership had been either killed or dispersed. This invasion of FATA was carried out with the approval of the Pakistani military. The military gave its silent consent by not taking any action against the foreign militants that were settling there.

            The second invasion came when Musharraf sent in his army in 2003. That further escalated the crisis there. The Pashtuns of FATA want both the foreign fighters and their Punjabi army supporters to leave.

            Hence, the invasion may have caused Hakimullah to be but it did not make him. There's a big difference.
            "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

            "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
              If we go by that logic, Hakimullah should have killed Baitullah Mehsud when he offered to send his militants to the Pakistan-India border after the post-2008-Mumbai-attack military build-up in India.

              Baitullah and Hakimullah were not separatists. Only secular Pashtun nationalists are separatists. Religious Pashtuns are the most fervent believers in Pakistan. Baitullah and Hakimullah were against the Pakistani army but they believed in the Pakistani state and its ideology.




              The Marwats raised Lashkars and drove out the TTP from Bannu and Lakki Marwat. In retaliation, the TTP attacked their gathering. Of course they wouldn't claim responsibility after so many civilians died. But who else had the means and reasons to attack them? Mullah Nazir and Hafiz Gul? But they're pro-Pak. The CIA? Why would they attack their allies? Of course it was the TTP. It takes a lot of naivety to deny that.

              After all, it must be a very big coincidence that just after the TTP was dislodged and dispersed after 2010, the number of suicide bombings in Peshawar and KP also decreased drastically at the same time.

              Normally, the TTP shy away from claiming responsibility when too many civilians die in their attacks. However, in some cases, they do own up to their acts:

              Taliban claim responsibility for deadly UN blast | World news | The Guardian

              Peshawar blasts: Taliban claim responsibility for female suicide attack – The Express Tribune

              Taliban claim responsibility for 27 killed in suicide blast in Hangu, Pakistan

              Blast kills 36 in Peshawar; Taliban claim responsibility | | DAWN.COM

              Taliban claim responsibility for suicide bombing at Jamrud mosque
              Your argumentation is flawed,on one hand you say he does not take credit if civilians are killed on the other hand he took responsibility for all the other attacks where "socalled" civilians were killed > contradicition ?< oui!

              There are many people who are working hardly to ruin the name of the TTP and relate it to the TTP its the pakistani army, ISI , CIA , Security contrators (one of them was sniped on a TTP video while he was holding his m4a1)

              Secondly,your argumentation would say : That the recent attack carried out by the americans and their allies in afghanistan against the shia was also done by the Islamic Emirate ?


              Further the TTP said , we will protect the muslims of pakistan , not the porkis of pakistan and not its government.Rather they seek the collapse of the government and its agencies working for the americans.

              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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