Can Pakistan & Afghanistan Unite?

[asad71]

1. All indications suggest that WCC(Western Christian Civilization) and Zionists with the active support of India have planned to break-up Pakistan into small states. The conspiracy is far wider targeted at the Ummah wherein Pakistan plays an important being a nuclear power and strategically located with large well trained armed forces. Some reports suggest scrapping of the Durand Line and even emergence of a Baluch Republic.

2. Cultures, customs, languages and borders are ever changing in history. Populations move from one pasture to another. Civilizations are destroyed and again re-built. However, our faith Islam is unalterable. Our Holy Quo'ran remains complete and is to be considered always contemporary.

3. Therefore, it would be in the best interest of both Afghanistan and Pakistan to come to a political unity - a loose federation or a confederation. Obviously there would be so many hurdles and a hundred aspects to be considered. So much bad blood and acrimony has accrued. However, such an outcome would be in the best interest of both nations as well as the Ummah. As in the past such a state would be the most powerful and developed in this region, and would soon emerge as a regional power who will not be easy to bully.

[Khostai]

^dream on

[Soldat_Amir]

This is terribly funny and amusing too at the same time.

Its funny how he speaks of Christian and Zionist civilisations, and his ummah too.

Let me remind people here it was the same Pakistan who took support from Christians and Zionist civilisations to meddle in Afghanistan to unify it under their so called Ummah led by Zia ul Haq.

Pakistan will be divided into small pieces the same way you have divided Pashtuns, Baloch and Sindhis.

You only abuse the name of Islam to protect your own political interests.

Go and fight for Kashmir yourself if you think god is with you.

[Michin Khel]

1. All indications suggest that WCC(Western Christian Civilization) and Zionists with the active support of India have planned to break-up Pakistan into small states. The conspiracy is far wider targeted at the Ummah wherein Pakistan plays an important being a nuclear power and strategically located with large well trained armed forces. Some reports suggest scrapping of the Durand Line and even emergence of a Baluch Republic.

2. Cultures, customs, languages and borders are ever changing in history. Populations move from one pasture to another. Civilizations are destroyed and again re-built. However, our faith Islam is unalterable. Our Holy Quo'ran remains complete and is to be considered always contemporary.

3. Therefore, it would be in the best interest of both Afghanistan and Pakistan to come to a political unity - a loose federation or a confederation. Obviously there would be so many hurdles and a hundred aspects to be considered. So much bad blood and acrimony has accrued. However, such an outcome would be in the best interest of both nations as well as the Ummah. As in the past such a state would be the most powerful and developed in this region, and would soon emerge as a regional power who will not be easy to bully.

Your umat-e-muslima lolipop is not delicious for afghans, this trick is not going to work. Why you are extending umat-e-muslima lolipop to afghanistan only? Why not to iran, central asia, turkey, arab countries?

[NokiaWnW]

That will never work. Pakistan is today the most hated country number one in the world! India, US, Iranians, Bengals, Arabs, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Afghans ... all of them hate you. No ethnicity in Afghanistan will ever accept Pakistan! Not US is our enemy, but Pakistan is!

[Soldat_Amir]

Your umat-e-muslima lolipop is not delicious for afghans, this trick is not going to work. Why you are extending umat-e-muslima lolipop to afghanistan only? Why not to iran, central asia, turkey, arab countries?

Because the Arab would say "OI Mushkreen* go and dig my well and build my roads before I deport you with no pay.

[Admin Khan]

Since Pakistan already has a terrible reputation in the region, and it's known as one of the nations who meddles in Afghan affairs, such "confederation" is nothing but a pipe dream. If Pakistan would've genuinely assisted Afghanistan, I could've foreseen a potential alliance.

[Michin Khel]

Because the Arab would say "OI Mushkreen* go and dig my well and build my roads before I deport you with no pay.

Exactly. For Arabs pakistanis are like those habshi slaves from past.

Asad (who is a punjabi) should know that Afghans look down upon brown pakis. The very idea of living with pakis make them puke. Even lar pashtuns are looked down upon by tajiks and persianized pashtuns, so how can punjabis be accepted as fellow countrymen by them?....it is a general observation that If you call an afghan a persian/irani he would become very happy, but if you call him a pakistani he would feel insulted and degraded....
To be accepted by mighty afghans, punjabis and sindhis have to bleach their skins or have to undergo some kind of genetic modifications which would make them fair skinned and good looking....i am not joking

[KHANVICT KAKA KHEL]

Since Pakistan already has a terrible reputation in the region, and it's known as one of the nations who meddles in Afghan affairs, such "confederation" is nothing but a pipe dream. If Pakistan would've genuinely assisted Afghanistan, I could've foreseen a potential alliance.

I hope 1 day our 2 countries will unite. You talk about not forgetting tha past, but isn't this what a Muslim is supposed to do? I admit, meddling in affairs probably did happen, and is still happening, but why not say that this is tha influence of shaytaan in our country. Let me tell u, we (Pakhtuns in pakistan) are feeling this influence just like u, and not just pakhtuns, but all righteous Muslims in my country r feelin this influence. We have been cursed with corrupt leaders, just like u have been cursed with corrupt puppet leaders, who are willing to kill their populations to appease their masters (America). Tha mind set u should have is, we will unite once our countries r rid of corrupt people INSHA ALLAH. PEACE

[tor_khan]

I hope 1 day our 2 countries will unite. You talk about not forgetting tha past, but isn't this what a Muslim is supposed to do? I admit, meddling in affairs probably did happen, and is still happening, but why not say that this is tha influence of shaytaan in our country. Let me tell u, we (Pakhtuns in pakistan) are feeling this influence just like u, and not just pakhtuns, but all righteous Muslims in my country r feelin this influence. We have been cursed with corrupt leaders, just like u have been cursed with corrupt puppet leaders, who are willing to kill their populations to appease their masters (America). Tha mind set u should have is, we will unite once our countries r rid of corrupt people INSHA ALLAH. PEACE

Unions and confedarations sound good on paper where all people are equal before the law and the opportunities are the same. Since that already doesn't exist within Pakistan itself, what makes you think Pakistan would allow it to happen regionally?

Where does it really swing for Pakistan? Bhai-bhai with the Sikhs at the Wagah border? Or wrorwalee in the Pashtun belt?

The idea of a United Muslim State based on equality and partnreship is one that Muslims have struggled with because there isn't one intepretation of this state and because culturally and linguistically one group will dominate. Realistically, what would you choose - to rule or be ruled?

[Michin Khel]

I hope 1 day our 2 countries will unite. You talk about not forgetting tha past, but isn't this what a Muslim is supposed to do? I admit, meddling in affairs probably did happen, and is still happening, but why not say that this is tha influence of shaytaan in our country. Let me tell u, we (Pakhtuns in pakistan) are feeling this influence just like u, and not just pakhtuns, but all righteous Muslims in my country r feelin this influence. We have been cursed with corrupt leaders, just like u have been cursed with corrupt puppet leaders, who are willing to kill their populations to appease their masters (America). Tha mind set u should have is, we will unite once our countries r rid of corrupt people INSHA ALLAH. PEACE

Kaka khel sahab (from nowshera is'nt?) Pakistan has its eye on afghanistan because she thinks that afghanistan is a very weak country, it can not sustain itself, it should merge with pakistan....this is very condemnable way of thinking. Pakistan has tried to create confederations with iran and afghanistan so that resources of these countries can be used to counter india...Punjabis are shouting for muslim unity because of hinduphobia.

[Karachi]

Exactly. For Arabs pakistanis are like those habshi slaves from past.

Asad (who is a punjabi) should know that Afghans look down upon brown pakis. The very idea of living with pakis make them puke. Even lar pashtuns are looked down upon by tajiks and persianized pashtuns, so how can punjabis be accepted as fellow countrymen by them?....it is a general observation that If you call an afghan a persian/irani he would become very happy, but if you call him a pakistani he would feel insulted and degraded....
To be accepted by mighty afghans, punjabis and sindhis have to bleach their skins or have to undergo some kind of genetic modifications which would make them fair skinned and good looking....i am not joking

Lol.

anyways generally the perception of unification is not talked about by pakistanis at all, I am talking about non pashtun pakistanis. This kind of idea is almost never discussed in social gatherings for example. I am not sure why are there such articles floating around, I am assuming people who have the (ISI) zaid hamid view support this idea, they view afghanistan as part of pakistan

[KHANVICT KAKA KHEL]

Unions and confedarations sound good on paper where all people are equal before the law and the opportunities are the same. Since that already doesn't exist within Pakistan itself, what makes you think Pakistan would allow it to happen regionally?

Where does it really swing for Pakistan? Bhai-bhai with the Sikhs at the Wagah border? Or wrorwalee in the Pashtun belt?

The idea of a United Muslim State based on equality and partnreship is one that Muslims have struggled with because there isn't one intepretation of this state and because culturally and linguistically one group will dominate. Realistically, what would you choose - to rule or be ruled?

I really can't say wror. I like to b honest, and if I was a liar, I would say wrorwalee at tha pakhtun belt, and hopefully that is what our country will choose once we get rid of these devils. We should always choose muslims over all. PEACE

[badmash_khel]

Personally I think both Afghanistan and Pakistan should be split up into mini states, like Pashtunistan/Afghanistan, Punjab, Sindh, Kashmir, Balochistan, Baltistan, Seraikistan and so on. Each state should be soveriegn and have a local majlis/parliment and their own dominant language and culture. What will unite them will be Islam and similar cultures and econmic inetrests. The armies of these states should defend one another and if one is attacked by outsider all states join in, sort of like NATO. There should be free trade agreement and no visa restrictions. It should resemble something like a loose version of united states or european union.

[NokiaWnW]

Unions and confedarations sound good on paper where all people are equal before the law and the opportunities are the same. Since that already doesn't exist within Pakistan itself, what makes you think Pakistan would allow it to happen regionally?

Where does it really swing for Pakistan? Bhai-bhai with the Sikhs at the Wagah border? Or wrorwalee in the Pashtun belt?

The idea of a United Muslim State based on equality and partnreship is one that Muslims have struggled with because there isn't one intepretation of this state and because culturally and linguistically one group will dominate. Realistically, what would you choose - to rule or be ruled?

The same goes for Afghanistan, too bro. Exactly the same. Sad but true. Beside that, Pakistan do not want a unification with Afghanistan because of Islam or the common heritage but because to loot Afghan ground and lands and take resources to Rawalpindi and Islamabad. Balochistan isn´t an example?