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  • #31
    Originally posted by Khaak View Post
    Friends and foes:
    I suggest everyone to pay more attention to what this paki says...the idea is not to host their flag but our natural resources.
    A nation without a true history is doomed to repeated failure. The main problem of Afghanistan is clear like the sun …
    Why?

    For multiple reasons .. among other things, example, Taliban are wearing Pashtun mask while they are not Pashtun and they are there to misuses the whole issues for achieving things where Pashtuns become the main victims.

    there are more than 50 000 active fighters of the islamic emirate and every single of them is pashtun,there are 60 000 TTP fighters and 90 % are pashtuns and the remaining 5 % Uzbak and 5% other nationalities.

    how can you claim they are non pashtun,who are you to say who is pashtun who is not ?
    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #32
      Zaid Hamid is a clown anyway, he just chats sh*t lol.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Khaak View Post
        Friends and foes:
        I suggest everyone to pay more attention to what this paki says...the idea is not to host their flag but our natural resources.
        A nation without a true history is doomed to repeated failure. The main problem of Afghanistan is clear like the sun …
        Why?

        For multiple reasons .. among other things, example, Taliban are wearing Pashtun mask while they are not Pashtun and they are there to misuses the whole issues for achieving things where Pashtuns become the main victims.

        I'm pretty sure you have no family at all in Afghanistan. This is why it is easy for you to support US war

        People like you only care about their own family. As long as their family is ok, they can support anything they want
        What you should do is stop yapping away like a dog online.

        Since you are a supporter of war, you should go and fight against the Taliban

        You and others have no right to sit and type away on your laptop as cowards

        The ridiculous thing is people like you who support US war are so pathetic that they continue to hope others fight their battle

        Is it no wonder that their ideas are always left in the dark? Since when did the world move forward with losers

        Again you and others who support war have no right to be typing away on your PC.
        Last edited by Ghundal; 12-26-2011, 01:17 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
          I give 1 week Pakistan to surrender to the islamic emirate of Afghanistan,after the lions have conquered Kabul back and the apostate government has collapsed and the terrorists foreigners have left.

          This country ( Pakistan) is so corrupt that their army will surrender and their leaders will all flee.
          I give one week to Afghanistan to hand over Kunar to Islamic Republic of Pakistan
          ANA is so poorly trained and poorly equiped army that they would surrunder within one day. Dostom would flee to uzbekistan, ameen fahim to tajikistan and karzai to america

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
            there are more than 50 000 active fighters of the islamic emirate and every single of them is pashtun,there are 60 000 TTP fighters and 90 % are pashtuns and the remaining 5 % Uzbak and 5% other nationalities.

            how can you claim they are non pashtun,who are you to say who is pashtun who is not ?
            he doesn't mean foot soldiers and mercenaries. He means the Taliban's sugar daddies and financiers.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by badmash_khel View Post
              he doesn't mean foot soldiers and mercenaries. He means the Taliban's sugar daddies and financiers.

              you can meet every of them on the battlefield...don't you remember the lion Dadullah (rh) even when one of the apostates stole his prosthesis leg he remained with his soldiers til he and his men were martyred in a fight.

              don't you remember Yahya of Herat (rh) he and his men did not surrender rather he yahya (rh) himself met death,now his soldiers are fighting under a different commander.

              don't you remember many many other commanders like Mullah Sangeen and many others who are on the battlefield and never fled or retreated.

              the wazir of the financial affairs is doing his job as financial expertise.
              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                I give one week to Afghanistan to hand over Kunar to Islamic Republic of Pakistan
                ANA is so poorly trained and poorly equiped army that they would surrunder within one day. Dostom would flee to uzbekistan, ameen fahim to tajikistan and karzai to america
                Im not talking about ANA,but your napak army can't withstand a single battle with TTP , do you imagine what will happen when expertise of the islamic emirate of afghanistan joins them ...there will be no pakistan anymore.
                High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                  you can meet every of them on the battlefield...don't you remember the lion Dadullah (rh) even when one of the apostates stole his prosthesis leg he remained with his soldiers til he and his men were martyred in a fight.

                  don't you remember Yahya of Herat (rh) he and his men did not surrender rather he yahya (rh) himself met death,now his soldiers are fighting under a different commander.

                  don't you remember many many other commanders like Mullah Sangeen and many others who are on the battlefield and never fled or retreated.

                  the wazir of the financial affairs is doing his job as financial expertise.
                  I don't know enough about the realities on the ground to form a concrete opinion of the Taliban. I will leave that to Allah (swt) to judge that. I don't doubt there are sincere good mujahideen who sacrificed alot for the deen. Thats not my point.

                  A civil war is inevitable once the west leaves. How will Taliban handle that? Will they negotiate with people like Atta, Dostum, ismail khan and others?
                  Taliban attacked Hereat eventhough Ismail Khan offered to talk. Everyone knows Ismail Khan has done a great Job for Herat and he was one of few mujahideen who worked for his people. Why did the Taliban attack him. Can't they tolerate anyone who has a slightly different vision than themselves.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by al-arab View Post
                    Pakistan is an artificial state constructed by the british in 1948 that does not have any historical legitimacy. There was nothing called Pakistan before 1948. Nor is there an Pakistani ethnicity.
                    So according to you a country should be based on an ethnicity?. You want to say that ottoman caliphate was artificial because it was multiethnic?. You want to say that US and Canada are artificial states because american and canadian are not ethnicities? According to you US is an artificial state because it did'nt exist before 1789 and its has no history before its creation?


                    Imagine that there live Indian Punjabis next to the Pakistani Punjabis just accross the border. The difference is that they speak a different language and have a different religion. But they are the same people.
                    Read history of pakistan movement. The whole conflict was about religion. The east punjabis that you are talking about ,are hindus and sikhs. During partition these sikhs killed more than million punjabi muslims, raped ten of thousands of muslim punjabis and forced 7 million punjabi muslims to migrate towards pakistan. Punjabi muslims in west punjab then also retailated against non-muslims. An arab like you should'nt poke into deep matters.
                    Tajiks should belong to Tajikistan, Uzbeks to Uzbekistan, Pashtun to Afghanistan and Pashtun areas in Pakistan, Punjabis to Punjabistan and Sindh in their own homeland. The same with the Baloch people.
                    Kurd areas of your iraq should also go to independant kurdistan.

                    At least Bangladesh, despite it's young age as well, is a homogenous country with Bengali Muslims as the vast majority (90 percent) and a long history in that exact area.
                    You are not making sense any where. In case of bangladesh you are giving certificate of being authentic country for its homogenous bengali population. India is not a homogenous country, both religion and ethnicity wise...so what are ur expert opinions about india?

                    I don't see a successful Pakistan on the long if they do not develop a common and stable culture that include all it's peoples. And that's next to impossible when Pashtuns, Punjabis, Sindh and Baloch people all are fighting for their own kind, land, culture and influence. Those that know their history and heritage at least.
                    You want to the four to compeletly mix into each other and develop common and stable culture? What the hell are you trying to say arab
                    Last edited by Michin Khel; 12-26-2011, 02:27 PM.

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                    • #40


                      you dont even look paki lol

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                        Im not talking about ANA,but your napak army can't withstand a single battle with TTP , do you imagine what will happen when expertise of the islamic emirate of afghanistan joins them ...there will be no pakistan anymore.
                        I am not advocate of Pakistan army but they have crushed napak talibans in swat, bajaur and waziristan.
                        As for your sacred talibans of afghanistan, they are creation of ISI. they were used by ISI, are used by ISI and will be used by ISI.

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                        • #42
                          Luffy:

                          You have been brainwashed by the Pakistani nationalists and kuffar.

                          Pakistan is a British creation that is 63 years old. There is nothing called Pakistani ethnicity nor is there anything called Pakistan in history books before 1948 but Balochistan, Pashtun land, Punjabi land, Sindh land and Kashmiri land.

                          Of course Canada, usa and India are creations. What else? India was ruled by princely states and the Mughal Empire before the British created India while Canada and usa was inhabited by native americans until immigrants from Europe and slaves from Africa arived.

                          Kurds have lived together with Arabs in modern day Iraq for 2000 years. And apart from that Iraq has always been inhabited by Semitic tribes since the days of Babylon and Mesopotamia and Kurds are not indigenous to Iraqi territory. So that is a major difference.

                          About Bangladesh.

                          All I said is truth. Bengali people have lived in Bangladesh for centuries and are a homogenous group in their land (90 percent of Bangladesh is Bengali Muslims). They share the same culture and language. And are much stronger centralized state because of those facts.

                          Unlike a British creation like Pakistan.

                          Are you even a Pashtun? How can you regard a British invented country of 63 years and call that your homeland and wish ill on your ancestors homeland, Afghanistan? I bet your father is older than Pakistan. Say that aloud and try not to laugh.

                          Islamic State of Pakistan. Don't make me laugh, please.
                          Last edited by al-arab; 12-26-2011, 02:43 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Except Pakistan lost 5000 PaK soldiers. Correct me if I am wrong, but that does not look like victory?
                            Even recently, Pakistan is still looking for peace talks

                            Pakistan has no control over any of them

                            This is another myth

                            Pakistan just is unable to continue battling them in FATA and is unable to have a North Waziristan op

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                            • #44
                              your decision is horrible!!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by al-arab View Post
                                Luffy:

                                You have been brainwashed by the Pakistani nationalists and kuffar.

                                Pakistan is a British creation that is 63 years old. There is nothing called Pakistani ethnicity nor is there anything called Pakistan in history books before 1948 but Balochistan, Pashtun land, Punjabi land, Sindh land and Kashmiri land.

                                Of course Canada, usa and India are creations. What else? India was ruled by princely states and the Mughal Empire before the British created India while Canada and usa was inhabited by native americans until immigrants from Europe and slaves from Africa arived.

                                Kurds have lived together with Arabs in modern day Iraq for 2000 years. And apart from that Iraq has always been inhabited by Semitic tribes since the days of Babylon and Mesopotamia and Kurds are not indigenous to Iraqi territory. So that is a major diference.

                                About Bangladesh.

                                All I said is truth. Bengali people have lived in Bangladesh for centuries and are a homogenous group in their land (90 percent of Bangladesh is Bengali Muslims). They share the same culture and language. And are much stronger centralized state because of those facts.

                                Unlike a British creation like Pakistan.

                                Are you even a Pashtun? How can you regard a British invented country of 63 years and call that your homeland and wish ill on your ancestors homeland, Afghanistan? I bet your father is older than Pakistan. Say that aloud and try not to laugh.

                                Islamic State of Pakistan. Don't make me laugh, please.
                                If you are sticked to your opinion then i wont argue any more. But i would answer your question that you have asked many times that "why i consider pakistan as my country?" and you always claim that pashtuns of pak are anti-pakistanis and that luffy like people are rare.
                                Answer: unlike rest of members i , shehbaz and few other members are living in pakistan. Most of the members here citizens of foriegn countries. But i am law abiding citizen of pakistan. We pashtuns of pakistan consider ourselves pakistanis. If was citizen of UK or canada then i would have different opinion. And by nature pashtuns are loyal and patriotic people , they dont perforate the bowel from which they eat. By nature they are not traitors. Pashtun of india would be a loyal to his country. Call me brainwash or some thing else but pakistan is my country and part of my identity.

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