Imran Khan Karachi Jalsa

[Ghundal]

That question was directed at Shahbaz, but since you are also of the opinion that Imran Khan can make his own decisions, i will answer your concerns..

The government of Afghanistan should be represented by all the people of Afghanistan through shura council. Taliban should not be the only option. I would prefer a model similar to the iranian majlis but the sunni version of it with slight modifications. Mullahs should stay mullahs and only advice and direct people. people should be selected based on their ability to do a certain job. A mullah from some village can not be made the minister of finance. mullahs and alims should be there to make things clear for people and give adivce sincerely and not hijack power for themselves. mullahs should be kept in check by another independent body and those mullahs who give fatwas and rullings contradictory to islam should be sacked.

Buddy, you should then PM a member if you don't want others to respond to your question

"should"

"if"

Bottom line is for stability, there needs to be an end of foreign occupation. This is the barrier to peace and Imran has made this very clear

[badmash_khel]

Buddy, you should then PM a member if you don't want others to respond to your question

"should"

"if"

Bottom line is for stability, there needs to be an end of foreign occupation. This is the barrier to peace and Imran has made this very clear

yes, yes, i know foreigners should leave, no one is arguing that except a few people. peace is not important as much as justice. there can be no peace when there is no justice. peace at any price is not worth paying. not at the expense of afghan dignity and self determinition. to hell with such peace.

[Shehbaz Khan]

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which Taliban? TTP or Afghan Taliban.

Taliban themselves don't make a distinction between themselves. They say mujahideen fight under different parties and names but our leader is Mullah Omar. So is Imran Khan willing to tolerate TTP's vision of brining sharia to the whole of Pakistan? what are his views regarding punjabi Taliban?

What Imran told everybody is that the Bomb blasts in Pakistan are a reaction for the support of this so called war on terror. So do you think he is differentiating between the two?

[Subhan]

What Imran told everybody is that the Bomb blasts in Pakistan are a reaction for the support of this so called war on terror. So do you think he is differentiating between the two?

subha subha internet par kya kar rahe ho? so jao...

[Shehbaz Khan]

subha subha internet par kya kar rahe ho? so jao...

Stay on topic mate !!

[thegood]

What is Imran Khan'a vision after the US/NATO leave Afghanistan? Does he support total Taliban dominance of Afghan government or will he support a broad coalition of Afghan parties?

Imran Khan has got no vision of his own. His vision is that of ISI. Even about drones, Khurshid Qasuri who was the foreign minister of Pakistan during Mushrarf regime and reached secret agreement with US on drones is his comrade. That shows what he has to do.

He would do whatever the Pakistani military and inteligence agencies would direct him yo do.

About change that is also a farce. The entire Q-League i.e. lotas and the Mushi team except choudri Shujjaat and Pervaiz Ilahi has joined him.

[Ghundal]

Imran Khan has got no vision of his own. His vision is that of ISI. Even about drones, Khurshid Qasuri who was the foreign minister of Pakistan during Mushrarf regime and reached secret agreement with US on drones is his comrade. That shows what he has to do.

He would do whatever the Pakistani military and inteligence agencies would direct him yo do.

About change that is also a farce. The entire Q-League i.e. lotas and the Mushi team except choudri Shujjaat and Pervaiz Ilahi has joined him.

So what you are saying is that Pak Army does not control Pak Army right now. Zardari does? So Pak Army needs Imran to save them? LOL

So what you want us to think is that Imran's opposition to PAK ARMY operations in FATA and PAK support for the US war is all staged?

So his opposition to Musharraf that landed him in prison was pre-planned in calculation for his election many years later?

Buddy, Imran has been criticizing the Pak Army for supporting the US war for the last 7 years. This is not some gimmick


Yep, he is ending it buddy

[thegood]

ISLAMABAD: After welcoming many NAB-tainted individuals into the party, the Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) chief has now warmly accepted Sardar Assef Ahmad Ali, former education minister who was the key man standing between fake degree holders and Abid Sher Ali, chairman NA standing committee on education.
As Imran Khan proudly announced Sunday night in Karachi taking yet another wicket, that of Sardar Assef, it left many surprised as the new entrant is also a relic of the rotten system. With ‘electables’ joining the PTI in quick succession the slogan of change is coming under critical scrutiny. The News has already reported that a NAB-tainted former police chief, Malik Naveed Ahmad, has also joined Imran’s team. PTI’s scrutiny committee head for Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa, Rustam Shah Mehmand, facilitated his entrance as both are brothers-in-law, though with entirely opposite reputation as bureaucrats.

As for Assef Ahmad Ali, he made headlines as cabinet minister of Yusuf Raza Gilani, mostly for the wrong reasons. As education minister, Assef first emerged as a villain in the Farah Dogar scam and later on the issue of fake degree holder lawmakers.
In Farah Dogar case where she was given extra 20 marks illegally to enable her to get admission in a medical college, Assef had strongly opposed its investigation when Abid Sher Ali ordered a probe into the matter. So much so he said since the case involved the daughter of the then sitting Chief Justice, it shouldn’t be discussed, let alone probed.

Finally, the issue was thrown into the cold storage and Farah Dogar continues to be in medical college, courtesy Assef. Assef again emerged as the stumbling block when Abid took up the issue of fake degrees of lawmakers. He also bullied the chairman Higher Education Commission (HEC), Javed Leghari, into submission and pressured the government for his removal. The PPP government also arrested Leghari’s brother.
Not only this, media reports at that time also indicated that Assef wrote to the Punjab University directing it not to comply with the HEC directives for verification of degrees. The fake degree case has also been swept under the carpet, again courtesy Assef. The HEC was sent the record of some 500 lawmakers and 70 of them had fake degrees but no action was taken against them.

Again, Assef was instrumental in handing over the control of National University of Modern Languages (NUML) to the army chief as its chairman board of governors. Before assuming the portfolio of education, Assef was made deputy chairman of planning commission where his performance was pretty ordinary. He failed in his main task of reforming the Public Sector Development Programme, and was later shifted to education ministry.

Source: The News

[Ghundal]

^That's a good move

It's called taking votes away from your opponents, right?

[thegood]

ISLAMABAD: A multi-million dollar impending purchase of an old ship purportedly at an “inflated price of millions” for the Ministry of Science and Technology created ugly scenes in the federal cabinet meeting on Wednesday when three ministers blamed one another for the scam. High-profile sources confirmed to our sources that Minister for Science and Technology Azam Swati and Minister for Ports and Shipping Babar Ghauri accused Deputy Chairman Planning Commission Sardar Assef Ahmed Ali of pressurising them to buy an old ship at an inflated price of millions, which otherwise was available at a much cheaper price. Swati and Ghauri blasted Sardar Assef in his absence in the meeting. Prime Minister Gilani has now summoned the deputy chairman to explain his position about the alleged scam that jolted the cabinet. Talking to our sources, Sardar Assef Ahmed Ali strongly rejected allegations levelled against him in the federal cabinet meeting. The details, which he shared with this correspondent, give a totally new picture to the subject. He lambasted Azam Swati for pointing finger at him, arguing how he could be singled out in the matter that had nothing to do with him or his Planning Division.

He said that a three-member technical committee of science and technology was scheduled to visit some foreign country to buy an old ship. This committee was constituted by the Ministry of Science and Technology itself. But all of sudden, Sardar Assef said, Swati cancelled the tour of the committee and instead he went to Dubai on a personal visit and inspected the ship along with his Egyptian technical friend. Sardar Assef said he had nothing to do with the buying of this ship, which was a project of the Ministry of Science and Technology. But the Planning Division came into the picture when it came to the Central Development Working Party (CDWP) for approval. It was approved by the CDWP. He said there was a task force on maritime affairs in the Planning Division that raised some objections after going through the whole process, which was violated by the minister himself by visiting Dubai to inspect the ship at night. The minister, the secretary and the Planning Division were not authorised to give approval to this purchase unless cleared by the technical committee. Sardar Assef accused the JUI minister of trying to settle scores with him because of his ìfrequent criticism on JUI policiesî. The cabinet sources said when the meeting started, Azam Swati revealed that he was facing pressure from Sardar Assef Ahmed Ali to buy a specific ship meant for gathering scientific data. He claimed that Assef was so keen to buy this old ship that he had even told him if the approval in this regard was not given in line with his personal wishes, neither would he approve any of their development projects which come to the Planning and Development Division nor would he let a single penny be released. The sources said upon this, Babar Ghauri, too, shared the views of Azam Swati but did not name Sardar Assef Ahmed Ali. Ghauri told the meeting that he, too, was under pressure from the deputy chairman to let him buy a particular ship for the Institute of Oceanology. Sources said Swati went a step ahead and directly accused Assef of involvement in the scam. He told the cabinet that this old ship was proposed to be purchased from Dubai at a price of Rs 500 million, which otherwise was available for a few million rupees. Source said upon hearing these serious allegations against Assef Ahmed Ali, Gilani asked the secretary cabinet to contact the deputy chairman and ask him to hold a meeting with him on this serious issue.

When asked why Babur Ghauri talked against him in the cabinet, Sardar Assef replied that actually he, too, wanted him to give approval of a project of $500 million at the Karachi port areas that was not feasible. He said he had raised objections over certain projects, which the Ministry of Ports and Shipping was planning to execute without consulting the concerned agencies. He said even the naval chief who was adviser to the PM on such important issues was not consulted before undertaking some strategically important projects which in the long run might harm the citizens of Karachi. “My job is to raise objections over the faulty projects in the ministries as the Deputy Chairman Planning Division and would continue to do my duty irrespective of these laughable charges against me,” Sardar Assef said. All efforts to contact Azam Swati and Babar Ghauri went futile as their cell phones were switched off. However, SMS were left for them. The telephones at their official residences went unanswered. These columns, however, would be available to present their version.

http://paktribune.com/news/One-ship-...t!-215107.html

I wonder how would Azam Khan Swati [US National/Bush Fund raiser and as per Capt Safdar, under FBI Probe] and Sardar Assef Ahmed Ali would sit together in PTI under the banner of Revolutionary Caliph Imran Khan

[Karachi]

many powerful people are joining him, thats good. The only thing I hope is they dont bring any type of corruption in to this party