Imran Khan Trojan horse from Punjab

[Shehbaz Khan]

He's a very good trojan horse then, cuz there are rumors of him competing for the seat from NA-1 this time around

you know what NA-1 is maseed ?

He doesn't know !! :P And believe me if it's true .. The chances of him loosing are very less. The Pakhtun Youth will be there to support him !! I wish the youth will go against the political affiliations of their families.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Soldat_Amir, primitive cultures have seldom withstood the strategic and technological sophitication of higher civilization. We have seen big-mouths like Saddam, Qaddafi, Osamas, and score of others landing into the dustbin of history in a most humuliating manner. Soon the cihillies of humuliation have to burn the tummies of fanatics even more.

Loool thats rich. Saddam was a baathist and was your boy! he played by your rule as well. He extinguished Islam in Iraq and pretty much killed any Salafi that dared to talk against him. Qaddafi? Also their man.

The only fanatics are the ones that march around in red hats and think that their family owned party is somehow unique and different in the realm of Pakistani feudalism.

[graveyardofempires]

Lol they are afraid their drone campaign is getting screwed. Thats why Farhat Taj Andersen wrote that article maligning ANP. The ANP had to finally recognize public discourse and public pressure was against innocent kids like Tariq Ahmadzai Wazir getting killed.

exactly wrora

i think these people are paid to promote the notion that pashtuns love drone attacks on their houses,matter of fact they do an attan everytime they see a drone coming.

Their fear is that Imran Khan will actually serve Pakistan's interests and tell the US to fight its own war (incidentally something its strategists have been harping on for a long time).

They fear their supply route will be finished and so will their masters get weakend in Afghanistan and these types of people will never be allowd into politics etc on pashtun lands.

Their concern is that the time honored guerilla tactic that Vietcong used, that Dost Mohammad used, that Faqir e Ipi used, etc is to have an actual real strategic depth.

Wrora he is a psthological liar and i proved it.

Thats the hilarious thing here. Strategic depth does not really ever serve nation states well because they have to play by international "rules." So Pakistan never stood a chance to actually capitalize on that faulty strategy.

that is the boogy man theory and blaming peaople who want to speak up for their independece.

The pashtuns however, have a long memory and the Ahmadzai tribe specifically remembers when Amanullah came to them and they helped him and they remember when Nadir came to them and they helped him as well.


So enjoy, sit back, relax and laugh when you see these feverish, frivilous and frenzied comments wrorre. This is 2 groups of people getting a stick in the pooper:

ANP is a million times better than these guys bro,majority ANPers,except for the leaders are proper pashtuns with good will.

1) Sell outs in the Karzai government: losers who left their country in their time of need and didnt raise a single hand to help their brethren against Russia are cowering and insisting the hand that rocks the cradle (the US) stays and funds their Dubai houses

He will call them peopel who support progression and freedumb.

2) The Farhat Taj Andersonites... i.e. those that are vehemently against an Islamic supremecy. This is why she wrote that rabid article about her brethren... she saw that they understood the security and survival of their union and power base depended on this gamble.

Farhat taj anderson ,lol what a pashtun name.

Oh, GYE, its like enjoying a Hawaiian vacation. Let the ants run back and forth as they taste perpetual warfare that they brought on themselves.

Never been to hawaii but it does hurt me seeing these types of peopel suffering from this disorder.

Just sit back and aim the magnifier lens onto them.

They are doing it to themselves wrora.

Just think about it... ever since this guy announced his platform and candidacy they have been posting like chickens with their heads cutoff.

Thats why i like Imran Khan now and look how they are badmouthing ANP cuz ANP also supports Imran Khan.

They have not addressed the platform, but somehow sought to tie him at the hip with the ISI military complex.

Thats all they do ,even if karzai tommorow says he wants foreign troops out and join the taliban they will say he is ISI agent.

Their focus is deterring people like Emkhan and others by saying: ooooh he is going to be the ISI bachaa or the ISI donkey, take your pick.

The answer to that is simple: Who gives a rat's ass?

Dont care even if he is an agent of marsmen as long he stops support for US war of aggression against Afghanistan and my people in pukhtunkhwa and drone attacks,which so called lovers of pukhtane farhat taj and this case support.

If your original accusation is that the whole of the government already acted on military policy, then so what? It will continue to do so.

Nooo, the real reason is that the welfare check is about to get turned off and the most dangerous enemy of Kabul is going to have their Mehsud and Wazir brethren help them once again unseat a puppet of Kabul.

This guy needs a reality check wrora and needs to take medicines and better help himself quit lying and above all takign his lies as truth.

[thegood]

Loool thats rich. Saddam was a baathist and was your boy! he played by your rule as well. He extinguished Islam in Iraq and pretty much killed any Salafi that dared to talk against him. Qaddafi? Also their man.

The only fanatics are the ones that march around in red hats and think that their family owned party is somehow unique and different in the realm of Pakistani feudalism.

Really! Why avoid mentioning others with mouths filled with dust some rottening in Gitmo not to mention dozens of other fanatical Islamist movement that arose during the last 5 centuries to confront civilization with their primitivism but now burried deep under the debris of history defeated and humuliated.

Saddam and Qaddafi though Baathis raised the same flag i.e., to restore Arab-centered political Islam.

The good point about red caps is for almost one century they have been fighting against imperialism first Brititish and then American---the fanatics on the other hand were used like toilet papers by imperialist powers and still are being used---the more greedy ones filled their tummies with petro-dollars, CIA money, and ISI stipends---some even made it to the land of infidelity/kufar in their greed---where they are now writhing and burning in humuliation, jealousy, desperation, etc. torn apart by greed on the one hand and fanaticism on the other but their greed for material comfort cannot force them to stand for their principles.

[thegood]

Here you go. This Punjabi Imi Khan has proven to be typical bloody Punjabi darki. He talks so much against Americans but is now in America to lobby for American support in his rise to power. His jewish wife is divorced and has been reported to be dating many men in Britian but she still "visits" Imi Khan. His children are living with her living jewish life-style and are being brought up according to Jewish traditions.

If some Pashtun leader had remotely done so, the bloody Punjabis and their Pathan fanatic lap-dogs would be barking loud.

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoP...11213&mid=5519

[Soldat_Amir]

Soldat_Amir, primitive cultures have seldom withstood the strategic and technological sophitication of higher civilization. We have seen big-mouths like Saddam, Qaddafi, Osamas, and score of others landing into the dustbin of history in a most humuliating manner. Soon the cihillies of humuliation have to burn the tummies of fanatics even more.

Exactly, Barakzai thinks its 19th century, and the Wazirs and Mahsuds are going to take Kabul ignoring the fact that most Maseeds and Wazirs are living in tents receiving aid from Non Muslim countries in DI Khan,Bannu, Karachi etc, these people are truely downgrading Pashtun society back to the 11th century.

Shabaz Khan thinks I am naive and tries to act like a smart ass over Imran Khan.

[thegood]

LAHORE: Sloganeering and public rhetoric aside, the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf would be willing to partner with the United States, party leaders say. Party Chairman Imran Khan, at a recent meeting with the US ambassador, indicated that his party would be ‘absolutely comfortable’ working with the US on all issues, including the war on terror, since both countries have strong mutual interests. Contrary to popular perception, the US sees Imran Khan and the PTI as essential to their assessment of Pakistan’s political scenario, a prominent PTI leader said while talking to The Express Tribune. “There is no love lost between the PTI and US,” the leader said, adding that “the US is striving hard to gain popular public support, and in the face of Imran Khan, this support could serve its purpose.” The US ambassador also reportedly assured Imran that his country was comfortable with PTI and its ideology. “After the 2008 elections, the PPP and PML-N, who were riding on the wave of public approval, did very little to mitigate or tone down the anti-US sentiments in the country,” the PTI leader said. “In the face of Imran Khan, however, a clean and popular figure would emerge, whom Washington would be happy to work with,” the leader said, adding “It would also provide a sharp contrast to the decaying images of President Zardari and PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif.” “We told the US that we would not do anything which could destroy the precious Pak-US relations, nor do we intend to provoke the superpower,” the source said. During the meeting both, the US ambassador and Imran, agreed that a strong Pakistan would benefit all concerned, including the United States,” the source added. The PTI leadership had initially denied the Imran-Munter meeting, until the US ambassador admitted on a talk show that he had met Imran more than once, but never in the presence of DG ISI General Shuja Pasha. Party’s central Information Secretary Omar Cheema said that during the meeting, Imran put forward the party’s position on Pak-US relations. “Imran Khan told the US ambassador that Pakistan wanted a relationship based on honour and dignity and Pakistan’s sovereignty should not be violated,” said Cheema. Backdoor diplomacy: PTI ‘comfortable’ working with the US By Mohammed Rizwan Published: December 12, 2011.

LAHORE:
Sloganeering and public rhetoric aside, the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf would be willing to partner with the United States, party leaders say.
Party Chairman Imran Khan, at a recent meeting with the US ambassador, indicated that his party would be ‘absolutely comfortable’ working with the US on all issues, including the war on terror, since both countries have strong mutual interests.
Contrary to popular perception, the US sees Imran Khan and the PTI as essential to their assessment of Pakistan’s political scenario, a prominent PTI leader said while talking to The Express Tribune.
“There is no love lost between the PTI and US,” the leader said, adding that “the US is striving hard to gain popular public support, and in the face of Imran Khan, this support could serve its purpose.”
The US ambassador also reportedly assured Imran that his country was comfortable with PTI and its ideology.
“After the 2008 elections, the PPP and PML-N, who were riding on the wave of public approval, did very little to mitigate or tone down the anti-US sentiments in the country,” the PTI leader said.
“In the face of Imran Khan, however, a clean and popular figure would emerge, whom Washington would be happy to work with,” the leader said, adding “It would also provide a sharp contrast to the decaying images of President Zardari and PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif.”
“We told the US that we would not do anything which could destroy the precious Pak-US relations, nor do we intend to provoke the superpower,” the source said.
During the meeting both, the US ambassador and Imran, agreed that a strong Pakistan would benefit all concerned, including the United States,” the source added.
The PTI leadership had initially denied the Imran-Munter meeting, until the US ambassador admitted on a talk show that he had met Imran more than once, but never in the presence of DG ISI General Shuja Pasha.
Party’s central Information Secretary Omar Cheema said that during the meeting, Imran put forward the party’s position on Pak-US relations.
“Imran Khan told the US ambassador that Pakistan wanted a relationship based on honour and dignity and Pakistan’s sovereignty should not be violated,” said Cheema.
Swelling party ranks
The party leader, who wished to remain anonymous, said that former federal minister Jehangir Tareen would soon join the party, along with 12 provincial ministers.
“The joining of Tarin and his group would tilt the balance in PTI’s favour, in southern Punjab,” the leader said.
“At the moment it’s like a gold rush. Former PPP leaders, including Nisar Akbar from Faisalabad, Ghulam Sarwar Cheema from Wazirabad and Zafar Waraich from Rahim Yar Khan, have also joined the party,” the source added.
On Shah Mahmood joining the party, the source said that the former foreign minister didn’t have much choice.
Links with the establishment
The PTI leader said his party was “not one bit bothered” by talk of the establishment’s tacit support.
“There may be people around in the party who might have links with the security agencies but let me tell you, Imran Khan understands that more than the PTI needing the establishment, the establishment needs us,” the source said.
He said there was strong resentment in the party on the inclusion of certain politicians, and the young cadre was adamant to clean up, but Khan has tried to allay their fears and asked them to trust him.
Published in The Express Tribune, December 12th, 2011.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/305359/b...g-with-the-us/

[abassinafghan]

i dont know , but i guess the most people who cheer up for imran also did the the same for obama , if you compare both ,they are quit similar .

i mean obama is the political son of kissinger and brezinski , both known enemies of the afghan people , kissinger on many occasions called for the official recognition of the durand line . kissinger is also propably the highest ranking elder of zion .

so is imran ,heavily conected with jews . lol


but what will happen , if they attack pakistan ? they wont , they will not bomb lahore , they will not bomb kufrabad , they will not bomb sindh or punjab .

no they will pay some cash and make the napakis clear where their place is , and they should act as servants in reward for cash and not try to act as a power which they are not , because they are even more relying on military aid , then we do .

and than they will start to bomb villages and cities in pashtunistan to kill bad bad pashtuns in the name of war against terror , and for this reason they will sent some good for nothing arabs , some chechnen mercenaries and some locals topakian , to act as an menace , and than kill as much as they can .

and all people who actually waste any thought on strategic depht , its not geostrategical depth or military strategie , but politcal .

if the indians attack them do you really think they could evade by millions thrue the desert or by khybar ? lol .

their real fear is that an independet goverment comes into power , which will have good ties with the indians and some strength to take a stand , and support freedom groups , like the balochs or ttp . and as soon pakthun kwa as balochistan get free , they are just a nuiance to the indians . because than will follow sindh and kashmir , what is left punjab ?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Really! Why avoid mentioning others with mouths filled with dust some rottening in Gitmo not to mention dozens of other fanatical Islamist movement that arose during the last 5 centuries to confront civilization with their primitivism but now burried deep under the debris of history defeated and humuliated.

Saddam and Qaddafi though Baathis raised the same flag i.e., to restore Arab-centered political Islam.

The good point about red caps is for almost one century they have been fighting against imperialism first Brititish and then American---the fanatics on the other hand were used like toilet papers by imperialist powers and still are being used---the more greedy ones filled their tummies with petro-dollars, CIA money, and ISI stipends---some even made it to the land of infidelity/kufar in their greed---where they are now writhing and burning in humuliation, jealousy, desperation, etc. torn apart by greed on the one hand and fanaticism on the other but their greed for material comfort cannot force them to stand for their principles.

The idiocy that flows out of your cookie cutter mouth is astounding. Its like there is an army if morons produced outside of some factory in Quetta and at the end, sort of like the ice cream sundae, the little red hat is like a cherry on top.

How f--- retarded of a statement? Saddam and Qaddafi were Arab Islamists? The Baath party extends into Syria and Allawaite Syrian president Assad is also a baathist. The whole point of the baathist movement was to do what you red hat nazis wannabes plan to do to to the Pashtun masses: force a foreign and completely alien ideology (i.e. secular democracy) at the barrell end of a gun.

In fact, in the run up the the gulf war 2, Mr. Hussein's famous parting statements prior to his disposal were that Mr. Bin Ladin had made it clear that the latter hated the former.

Moreover, in Saddam's Iraq shiites were only under the boot after the 1st gulf war. Prior to that, his brand of secular dictatorship had seen to it that they formed medical, engineering, and many other faculties at Baghdad Univ.

Regarding Qaddafi, his little green book pretty much dispenses with Sharia law and defers to local committees that all circuitously make their way back to the "great leader". In fact why dont you read Soldat's defenses of Qaddafi?

I hardly think Soldat would err on the side of defending an Islamist.

We have seen a 100 versions of you here arguing the same idiocy again and again.

Even **** Cheney would sneer at your stupidity in claiming that Saddam and Qaddafi themselves held similar beliefs.

How do you explain his adversary Belhaj? How do you explain Qaddafi's rants that Bin Ladin was behind the Libyan uprising? How do you explain the rants about AQ involvement there?

How do you explain that many an Afghan Arab Muj fighter found their way into Qaddafi's prison?

In the land of kuffar? Lol humiliated? You mean like that loser Afandyar or his retard side kick Achakzai? Two fuedal peas in a pod?

Dont blame your failures on us. Just because we escaped your idiocy and are superior to you in every way, where we see every aspect of our history through advanced eyes should not perturb you.

Is Mr. Ron Paul burning with islamic rage? Is Dr. Scheuer of the CIA burning with rage? Is Mr. Rand Paul burning with Islamic rage? The only rage they burn with is that you are too much of a coward to take care of your own business and deal with Mullah Omar or Hakimullah man to man, gun to gun. Instead you need their American boys to do your dirty work. Be a man and go get your AK and ride into FATA and deal with your own messes that you created with your marxist trash.

The only person burning with rage is your idiot Farhat Taj Andersen who is peeing fire since her drone baby is threatened.

5 centuries of failure?

The whole world now, the ones with any knowledge of the conflict know darned well that you morons with your imposition of foreign values by force and your jumping onto whitey's crotch like a hungry set of prostitutes is what got the people involved in the struggle to oust your monkeys.

Here is your likeness:

[Soldat_Amir]

Barakabdali if your so againt American help or Pashtuns being abit more civilised, then what the hell are you doing in America, why couldnt you just find a job somewhere in North Waziristan at a hospital treating the wounds of militants?

For your own information

WANA: Members of a Pashtun tribe vowed on Friday to raise a militia aimed at forcing militants loyal to Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud from their lands on the Afghan border.
Elders from the Wazir tribe agreed to raise a traditional tribal militia, known as a “Lashkar,” to expel Mehsud militants from their areas. “We promised to keep the peace and we will force militants to leave our areas within a week,” Wazir tribal elder Mohammad Ajmal told a gathering of around 400 tribal leaders in Wana, the main town of Waziristan. He spoke after a meeting with government authorities. “We will not let anyone to ruin the peace in Wana,” he added. The government has also been pressing the Wazir tribe to dislodge militants from its territory.
Hakimullah, the country’s number one enemy, comes from the Mehsud tribe, a major Pakhtun tribe living in South Waziristan. Though the military says it has destroyed most of the bases of Mehsud militants, Hakimullah and other leaders of the Pakistani Taliban survived the offensive.
A large number of militants fled to nearby regions while many fighters are also believed to have taken refuge in territories controlled by the Wazir tribe, the Mehsuds’ traditional rivals and the second major tribe in South Waziristan.
Hundreds of militants have been killed in military operations in South Waziristan and other areas in the northwest over the past year, but militants have been to able to hit back with a wave of attacks, killing hundreds of people across the country. Taliban militants killed at least 84 people in attacks on two Ahmadi places of worship in Lahore last week.
The US has also been pressing Pakistan to extend its offensive into neighbouring North Waziristan, described as the main sanctuary for al Qaeda-linked militants. Washington is particularly eager to strike the militants there, who, they say, launch cross-border attacks on Western forces in Afghanistan.
Moreover, suspected links between Faisal Shahzad, the main suspect in the botched bomb plot at New York’s Times Square, and militants in North Waziristan have added pressure on Pakistan to take concrete steps to tackle a mounting threat emanating from the region.
Pakistani officials say they are over-stretched and do not have enough resources to open another front when they have yet to consolidate successes in South Waziristan and elsewhere in the northwest.
Published in the Express Tribune, June 5th, 2010.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/18967/lo...st-hakimullah/

Are these going to be the Mahsuds and Wazirs who will overthrow Karzai and 20 other powerful European countries?







These tribes of Mahsud and Wazir couldnt even free themsleves from the FCR, they sit on the footpath of the political agent begging everyday for his approval, these same tribes of Waziristan are so tough and strong infront of themselves when it comes to fighting their own families, but act all innocent and kind when a Punjabi comes over, Barakabdali, I think you need to get a reality check of the situation, i suggest you go and visit the IDPS before you come up with such non sense, your Mahsud and Wazir brothers are selling all the aid such as tents and rice sacks on the markets of DI khan, thats their honesty!

Sorry I had to tell it as it is.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Barakabdali if your so againt American help or Pashtuns being abit more civilised, then what the hell are you doing in America, why couldnt you just find a job somewhere in North Waziristan at a hospital treating the wounds of militants?

For your own information

WANA: Members of a Pashtun tribe vowed on Friday to raise a militia aimed at forcing militants loyal to Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud from their lands on the Afghan border.
Elders from the Wazir tribe agreed to raise a traditional tribal militia, known as a “Lashkar,” to expel Mehsud militants from their areas. “We promised to keep the peace and we will force militants to leave our areas within a week,” Wazir tribal elder Mohammad Ajmal told a gathering of around 400 tribal leaders in Wana, the main town of Waziristan. He spoke after a meeting with government authorities. “We will not let anyone to ruin the peace in Wana,” he added. The government has also been pressing the Wazir tribe to dislodge militants from its territory.
Hakimullah, the country’s number one enemy, comes from the Mehsud tribe, a major Pakhtun tribe living in South Waziristan. Though the military says it has destroyed most of the bases of Mehsud militants, Hakimullah and other leaders of the Pakistani Taliban survived the offensive.
A large number of militants fled to nearby regions while many fighters are also believed to have taken refuge in territories controlled by the Wazir tribe, the Mehsuds’ traditional rivals and the second major tribe in South Waziristan.
Hundreds of militants have been killed in military operations in South Waziristan and other areas in the northwest over the past year, but militants have been to able to hit back with a wave of attacks, killing hundreds of people across the country. Taliban militants killed at least 84 people in attacks on two Ahmadi places of worship in Lahore last week.
The US has also been pressing Pakistan to extend its offensive into neighbouring North Waziristan, described as the main sanctuary for al Qaeda-linked militants. Washington is particularly eager to strike the militants there, who, they say, launch cross-border attacks on Western forces in Afghanistan.
Moreover, suspected links between Faisal Shahzad, the main suspect in the botched bomb plot at New York’s Times Square, and militants in North Waziristan have added pressure on Pakistan to take concrete steps to tackle a mounting threat emanating from the region.
Pakistani officials say they are over-stretched and do not have enough resources to open another front when they have yet to consolidate successes in South Waziristan and elsewhere in the northwest.
Published in the Express Tribune, June 5th, 2010.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/18967/lo...st-hakimullah/

Are these going to be the Mahsuds and Wazirs who will overthrow Karzai and 20 other powerful European countries?







These tribes of Mahsud and Wazir couldnt even free themsleves from the FCR, they sit on the footpath of the political agent begging everyday for his approval, these same tribes of Waziristan are so tough and strong infront of themselves when it comes to fighting their own families, but act all innocent and kind when a Punjabi comes over, Barakabdali, I think you need to get a reality check of the situation, i suggest you go and visit the IDPS before you come up with such non sense, your Mahsud and Wazir brothers are selling all the aid such as tents and rice sacks on the markets of DI khan, thats their honesty!

Sorry I had to tell it as it is.

The Wazirs used the same strategy in the British era. Its historical fact that they even participated in British units and made pacts with the British and then mutinied once the Brits were lazy and not watching. There are many famous massacres to that effect, of British soldiers.

Regarding what I am doing in the US? Rather, its what you are doing in Britania. After all, your webpage posts of communist affiliations. You however are in a secular democratic capitalistic state, which is an anathema to to what you wanted Najib Parcham Khad and the whole apparatus to put by force on the Afghan people.

What you call American help is wasted American blood and treasure for a cause that you should be fighting!

What the heck are you doing sitting there in London when you should be leading an ANA unit to make incursions into FATA or an NDS unit and to fidn the Quetta shura and eliminate them?

We can start a fund here Soldat to raise enoug money to buy you a one way ticket to the outer farm lands of China where communism is still being implemented... or to North Korea. Are you game?

[sanman]

Abdali, why are you supporting Taliban from the US? Why don't you go to Waziristan and fight? Not enough running water and ice cream available for you over there?

If you can recognize that Wazirs fought bought for and against the British, then recognize they can do it for Pakjabis too, and therefore Pakistani Taliban attacks on the Pakjabis are predictable and to be expected.

Pakjabis are living on borrowed time. Theirs is an artificial empire doomed to withdraw from Pashtun lands in defeat, just like the British. These Brown Sahibs will be forced to retreat with their tails between their legs, just like the Gora Sahibs.

Eventually, the Pakjabis will be forced to own up to their imperialist butchery, just like Imran Khan wants them to come clean on their massacre of Bengalis. It will be good if Imran Khan accomplishes this, as he promised. Murdering Pakjabi army has a lot to answer for.

[Ghundal]

[QUOTE]

Abdali, why are you supporting Taliban from the US? Why don't you go to Waziristan and fight?

Actually, I think Barakzai and others here, including myself are simply favoring non-intervention in regards to the Muslim world, and, especially Afghanistan. That does not make one pro-anything at all.

The onus is on you to get on the next Ariana plane and travel to Kabul, enlist in the ANA, and fight the Taliban, not on those who simply are opposed to US intervention in Afghanistan.

If you can recognize that Wazirs fought bought for and against the British, then recognize they can do it for Pakjabis too, and therefore Pakistani Taliban attacks on the Pakjabis are predictable and to be expected.

Historically the TTP was formed solely due to Pakistan's support for the US war and occupation of Afghanistan. Had Pakistan not supported the US war and occupation of Afghanistan, groups like TTP would not have taken up arms against Pakistan. According to the records, TTP goes against both the US and Pak Army, and they are no friends of the Karzai regime either just in case you were unaware of that.

In regards to Wazirs and Maseeds, they are simply doing what they have done since antiquity- unseating what they perceive as puppets in Kabul, and bringing an end to foreign intervention. That appears to be their aims.

Imran Khan is simply going to disassociate from the US war, and in his words, make peace with the tribes. He is going to allow the nature to take its course. He also put forth his intent to help the US withdraw from Afghanistan- terming it an act of help. http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...-terror-24614/

"I was very happy to hear that now talks are being held with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan. This is what I was saying for seven years and they realised it now after 40,000 people have been killed," he told a news conference here.

Pakistan must pull out of the war on terrorism and change its strategy and tell the US that the campaign was not beneficial for both countries, he said in response to a question about the steps taken by Pakistan after a cross-border NATO attack killed 24 soldiers last month.

"It is time for negotiations...There is no terrorism now because we are talking to them, because there is dialogue between the army and the Taliban. As soon as we carry out operations, terrorism will resume," he said.

He said the government''s decision to NATO supply routes in retaliation for the air strike was like treating "cancer with Disprin".

He added: "The real cancer is we are stuck in somebody else�s war. We are headed towards destruction, and we must get out of this war."
"This war cannot be won with the military. Get out of the war and true friendship with the US means helping them get out of Afghanistan and finding a political settlement," said Khan, the head of the Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf party.

Pakjabis are living on borrowed time. Theirs is an artificial empire doomed to withdraw from Pashtun lands in defeat, just like the British. These Brown Sahibs will be forced to retreat with their tails between their legs, just like the Gora Sahibs.

I assume you are referring to the US? Correct? Because I dont see any Punjabis running around Afghanistan, and everyone knows that terms such as "paki" are really code word for supporting a heavy handed war against Pashtuns.

Eventually, the Pakjabis will be forced to own up to their imperialist butchery, just like Imran Khan wants them to come clean on their massacre of Bengalis. It will be good if Imran Khan accomplishes this, as he promised. Murdering Pakjabi army has a lot to answer for

This is what Imran Khan intends to do, and it is highly logical. He has reasonably stated that Pakistan support for the US war is unacceptable, and he has also stated that the US presence in the region is the source of the problems.


Now, the questions I need to ask you is why are you so concerned about Pakistani elections? Leave the Pakjabis alone. Let the Pakis elect Imran Khan and end Paki support for the US war! Why is the decisions of that state so concerning to you? Oh, but I indeed know why.


It appears your opposition to Imran Khan is only based on his opposition to the US war and occupation of Afghanistan, and his stated determination to end Pakistan support for it, and end the war all together. It will be very hard for anyone to say these are not moral and logical principles to hold. Any position against this, is simply of those in favor of more war, and unless perhaps you have been living in denial, people do not want war and occupation, but an end to it.

In other words, you want Pakistan to elect someone who will continue to support the US war and occupation of Afghanistan. You want another Zardari or Nawaz Shariff. You probably have nostalgia for the biggest of them all- Pervez Musharraf to come back and give full support for the US war and occupation of Afghanistan?

Interesting is it not?


Beacause again, Imran's opposition for Pakistan support for the US war and occupation of Afghanistan is the ONLY reason people like you are opposed to him, not because he was a playboy, or because he married a Jewish woman who converted to Islam.

No, that has nothing to do with it, because if he was singing pro-US war anthems, people like you would be beating his drums non-stop

This is democracy buddy.


Your rules

[Talal]

Guys believe me at this moment Pakistanis are willing to vote George bush into power if it means breaking the musical chair game between the Army, PppP and the ganja league

[Ghundal]

Here is another tid bit about some desperate piece of propaganda surrounding Imran Khan's meeting with Cameron Munter which was at Munters request- not the other way around. You see, the TheExpress Tribune is owned and operated by people who are quite pro-US war, so it appears their recent article trying portray Imran Khan like another Zardari was in line with discrediting him. ExpressTribune has a discrete way of terming Pashtuns as terrorists, and it( plays to a mostly elite/wealthy Pakistani audience)

Anyways, here is what he has to say in allusion to his continued and determined opposition to the US war.

"I think they (foreign envoys) have also hummed rising PTI tsunami and that's why they are now inquiring about my future plans. You better wait for next release of Wikileaks for my deliberations with the US Ambassador," he added. He said that despite his meetings with the US Ambassador, he firm to his principled stance regarding war on terror and US policies in the region."

PTI to oppose military coup, says Imran | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online



Its desperate wishful thinking for people to think that Imran khan is going to roll back on 7 years of opposition to the US war, and suddenly be a Musharraf or Zardari