questions for pashtuns

[Zmarak]

Security comes first. Taliban and other terrorists are a security threat to the world thus they are trying to pre-empt this threat.

As unknownprice mentioned, terrorists/terrorism are subjective terminology only validated by the views and opinions of men. But what I really want to ask you is to please explain how Taliban were or are a security threat to the world.

[Badlun]

There was no the so called US meddling in Afghanistan before 1979. Why we did not become a developed country?

China may emerge the greatest power but it will be one country in the G8 or G20. Afghanistan or Pakistan wont be there in the near future. All the rest will be non Muslims most probably.

Why a Communist Atheist China is preferred to USA still a country of some religion and are the people of the book?

Why we don't talk of our own progress? Why we are proud of the development of another country?
China is still a developing country. Its size of economy like India or Brazil may rise but it will be still a poor country.

USA has emerged successful even out of the recession of 30s. It will solve its problems.

USA is fighting our own war, the war against terror. taliban are our common enemies.

[unknownprince]

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There was no the so called US meddling in Afghanistan before 1979. Why we did not become a developed country?

US was meddling in the region even then, trying to hijak the Mujahideen Resistance to the Soviets for their own purposes. Pakistan also was part of this scheme.

However, the US has been primarily interfering and meddling in that region for a long time. The start for this can be considered 1953 with the US backed coup of Mossadeq. From then on, there have been other countless forms of interference int he Muslim world.

Afghanistan would have moved forward and been developed had it not been for the Militant Secularists/ Communists who assassinated Daud Khan, and brought forth the Communist Revolution which was resented by the people.

This is why Afghanistan has not moved forward. It is due to the Militant Secularist/Communist subversive communist activity.

Hence, it is important that this must be time and time again pointed out. The source of Afghanistan's problems, those who support foreign wars, must be known. It can not be ignored.

China may emerge the greatest power but it will be one country in the G8 or G20.

G8 G20? Those terms will soon mean nothing at all. Are you keeping tabs on the US economic and EU economic collapse, or does that escape your fantasy? There is nothing that will great about nations with weak economies. G8 minus China may soon be appropriately termed Poor 7. P7 Chief Financial Officers See No U.S. Growth Pickup .: Economic Crisis in US Patriotism: the root of US decline - Sunday Independent | IOL.co.za Nothing Great about states heading toward collapse? No?

Afghanistan or Pakistan wont be there in the near future. All the rest will be non Muslims most probably.

Thats your opinion, and its not going to happen. Afghanistan in fact, will probably be finally able to build itself up. Since China, ever since its 1911 revolution is against foreign intervention, their investments in soft power in Afghanistan (which will continue minus US presence and Karzai exit) will allow Afghanistan to build up its resources, diplomatic ties, and foreign policy to its interests. Afghanistan's future is bright with the decline of powers like the US and the West. A very bright and prosperous future indeed!

Why a Communist Atheist China is preferred to USA still a country of some religion and are the people of the book?

Prefer what? China has no interest in occupying Afghanistan, and excuse me, but I am showing what is already transpiring. It may disappoint and disillusion you, but it is what it is.

Why we don't talk of our own progress? Why we are proud of the development of another country?

Whoever said I was proud of China? Dont mistaken the presentation of mere facts as a source of pride. China will eventually fail in 50 years or so.

China is still a developing country. Its size of economy like India or Brazil may rise but it will be still a poor country.

China has a surplus of cash. The US is indebt to China. Have you recently heard that China is pondering divesting out of US treasury? DO you know what that means?

USA has emerged successful even out of the recession of 30s. It will solve its problems.

What you are doing is called wishful thinking. Nations rise and fall, and the US has fallen. It will not rise. Get used to that buddy.

USA is fighting our own war, the war against terror. taliban are our common enemies.

The US is fighting your war of secularism for its own geopolitical interests. You have merged your interests with those of the US.

The Militant Secularists and Failed Technocrats like Karzai are Afghanistan's enemies.

Those who support foriegn war and occupation of Afghanistan are logically defined as Afghanistan's enemies.

[Badlun]

As unknownprice mentioned, terrorists/terrorism are subjective terminology only validated by the views and opinions of men. But what I really want to ask you is to please explain how Taliban were or are a security threat to the world.

Taliban are terrorists and violent extremists. Their ideology of Salafism, Wahabism, and promulgation of Islam by force is well known. Suicide bombings, murdering, butchering and cutting into pieces of their enemies is not a secret. What they did with Dr Najib in Afghanistan and what they did in Swat is not hidden. After communism this is another ideological threat to democracy and development.

Thats why international troops are needed in Afghanistan to stop export of terrorism to west. The west's counter-insurgency strategy is based on a well thought out policy approved by the national parliaments and think tanks. West has a sensible policy of containment and deterrence which is a joint strategy by many countries.till the time Afghan forces are strong enough, the presence of thousands of foreign troops in Afghanistan is necessary to prevent al-Qaida from returning and thus increasing the threat to the world.

It should be axiomatically obvious that an Afghanistan freed of an international combat presence in the south would be an automatic magnet for al-Qaida's concentrated reconstruction.

Many in the developed world think that they will be blackmailed for money and to accept more refugees who will then begin to destabilize their countries through political action and by changing their demographics by simply out breeding them.

World can't let the Taliban have NUKES! this will be an international disaster.

West is not stupid to spend billions of dollars in Afghanistan in their war against Taliban. They know Taliban is a security risk to the world. Otherwise they would have not given such huge human and financial sacrifices if Taliban were or are not a risk.

[unknownprince]

Terrorism is a subjective term devoid of any factual basis. Therefore, conversing with you is a waste of time since your bias does not allow you to think clearly. In reality, you simply want to impose a foreign ideology upon the Afghan people. Maybe you like the secularism you see in KP. Well, even there that will soon, if not already, lead to a backlash.



The US nuking of Japan can be termed terrorism.

The US genocide on the Native Americans can be termed terrorism

The US slavery of the blacks can be termed terrorism. Lynchings of blacks and murdering black children was the norm up until 1960 in the US.

The US war on Iraq and Afghanistan where thousands upon thousands of people have been murdered can be termed terrorism. Actually, the US killed over a million people in Iraq. This is terrorism.

Careful with how you use and define terrorism.


If we want to define security threat, one needs not look past the fact that the US presence and meddling throughout the world is the barrier to global peace.

You should be fortunate that China's rise is now unchallenged at this stage. A US drone recently was downed above Iranian airspace. This is called and termed interference. This can also be terrorism. US drone attacks have killed thousands of civilians. This can be termed terrorism. US airstrikes and night raids have murdered thousands of civilians, This can be termed terrorism too.


Stop living fantasies on foreign occupation.

Go and watch 1911.

When using such a term as terrorism, you are seeking to deny Afghan opposition to the US occupation. Thats all you are doing. Maybe you should be honest about it.



Therefore, it is in fact a waste of time to discuss with you since you are so biased with your agenda.

[Badlun]

The bottom line is that you are for Taliban and I am for democracy and development and fight against terrorism even with the help of a foreign ally. I don't know who is biased and who is not. Its the clash of ideas. We share and learn.

Terrorism if it is subjective then for you Taliban are freedom fighters but for me they are terrorists. I believe in Afghan parliament and not in the Taliban to be the well wishers of Afghans.

[unknownprince]

The bottom line is that we are against foreign intervention and we are against supporting foreign wars of aggression whereas as you are in favor of it.

Najib and his evil ways were not tolerated in Afghanistan

Afghanistan does not tolerate occupation and tyranny


It is a land that no one can or will ever rule

All people in the world have the right to independence and freedom. No one , especially, no Afghan will tolerate foreign occupation of their land.

[unknownprince]

Salam wrona oh khundo

I have some questions


i am from kandahar. and i was born in kandahar and i have seen it all. i have seen those burn the schools and most of them are now government leaders. we know who burned schools in provinces of afghanistan. we have to defend education and our country.

why are you automatically tagging every afghan who defending his country on ISI? i agree that some ppl might be from agents of isi or raw. but do not tag everyone with isi. we have brave afghans that will not accept rule of foreigners. this is the policy of afghans before pakistan.

what will you do


1)if some invader conquers your country what will you do?
2)if someone randomly enters your house what will you do?
3)who started burning schools?
4)if someone foreigner does very bad violence like killing stabbing 10 year old of your country what will you do?
5)if someone does this to your country what will you do? what if they do to your province? what if your village? what if your home? what if your sister or wife?

will you not defend yourself? many afghans are victims. they don't know isi or america they are just defending themselves. taso da raw ya isi laqab tolo ta warkawey.


i did not type the above i made my family type.

Anyway, I am bringing this up again so that people do not derail this important topic.

[Breshna]

Salam wrona oh khundo

I have some questions


i am from kandahar. and i was born in kandahar and i have seen it all. i have seen those burn the schools and most of them are now government leaders. we know who burned schools in provinces of afghanistan. we have to defend education and our country.

why are you automatically tagging every afghan who defending his country on ISI? i agree that some ppl might be from agents of isi or raw. but do not tag everyone with isi. we have brave afghans that will not accept rule of foreigners. this is the policy of afghans before pakistan.

what will you do


1)if some invader conquers your country what will you do?
2)if someone randomly enters your house what will you do?
3)who started burning schools?
4)if someone foreigner does very bad violence like killing stabbing 10 year old of your country what will you do?
5)if someone does this to your country what will you do? what if they do to your province? what if your village? what if your home? what if your sister or wife?

will you not defend yourself? many afghans are victims. they don't know isi or america they are just defending themselves. taso da raw ya isi laqab tolo ta warkawey.


i did not type the above i made my family type.

Every question asked here is a 100% valid question.

Truth is it's very easy to debate and give answers when someone else house is burning.

When the fire is far away from them and their loved ones.

When nothing really effects them.

Its not like their loved ones are dieing or being raped or killed.

It only hurts when your own house gets burnt.

When you lose your own loved ones.

Then qiyamat is here.

Kandahar, Helmand ect have been a blood bath in all this for over ten years now.

When you lose your own. Then you pick up guns. As your world crashes.

You want revenge.

Kandahar has every right to defend its self.


I really don't care who is offended by my post truth hurts deal with it.