questions for pashtuns

[Badlun]

Salam wrona oh khundo

I have some questions


i am from kandahar. and i was born in kandahar and i have seen it all. i have seen those burn the schools and most of them are now government leaders. we know who burned schools in provinces of afghanistan. we have to defend education and our country.

why are you automatically tagging every afghan who defending his country on ISI? i agree that some ppl might be from agents of isi or raw. but do not tag everyone with isi. we have brave afghans that will not accept rule of foreigners. this is the policy of afghans before pakistan.

what will you do


1)if some invader conquers your country what will you do?
2)if someone randomly enters your house what will you do?
3)who started burning schools?
4)if someone foreigner does very bad violence like killing stabbing 10 year old of your country what will you do?
5)if someone does this to your country what will you do? what if they do to your province? what if your village? what if your home? what if your sister or wife?

will you not defend yourself? many afghans are victims. they don't know isi or america they are just defending themselves. taso da raw ya isi laqab tolo ta warkawey.


i did not type the above i made my family type.

USA or NATO did not invade Afghanistan but Taliban and Al-Qa'ida. Taliban are no more in power and now the power is with Afghan leaders like Karzai and Northern Alliance. Afghanistan has a parliament with elected members, president and cabinet. All provinces and districts have Afghan governors and Wuloswals. USA has not made Afghanistan its 53rd state.

The presence of NATO and others is to strengthen the Afghan forces in their fight against the common enemy the Taliban. Taliban don't epitomize the Afghan resistance against invaders.They have not entered our house they have come to help us in our fight against the common enemy. They are our allies not enemies.

Today you make Afghanistan a Taliban-free country and you wont see a single foreigner there. They are not here to conquer Afghanistan but to exterminate the menace of Taliban and terrorism. Taliban are the enemies of all, USA, West, Afghansitan, Pakistan and the whole humanity.

If Afghans can fight against them alone then there wont be any foreigner in Afghanistan. Let us pray that Afghanistan become as strong as Pakistan to fight against Taliban then there will be no justification of the presence of NATO etc in Afghanistan.

[Soldat_Amir]

yes, but the ghazis who fought the british did not experience what we did in the last 30 years

my dear soldat, never never never under estimate what the 30 yrs did to us as a people

I understand the side effect of civil war and constant meddling. However, we are not as we were then.

[Soldat_Amir]

USA or NATO did not invade Afghanistan but Taliban and Al-Qa'ida. Taliban are no more in power and now the power is with Afghan leaders like Karzai and Northern Alliance. Afghanistan has a parliament with elected members, president and cabinet. All provinces and districts have Afghan governors and Wuloswals. USA has not made Afghanistan its 53rd state.

The presence of NATO and others is to strengthen the Afghan forces in their fight against the common enemy the Taliban. Taliban don't epitomize the Afghan resistance against invaders.They have not entered our house they have come to help us in our fight against the common enemy. They are our allies not enemies.

Today you make Afghanistan a Taliban-free country and you wont see a single foreigner there. They are not here to conquer Afghanistan but to exterminate the menace of Taliban and terrorism. Taliban are the enemies of all, USA, West, Afghansitan, Pakistan and the whole humanity.

If Afghans can fight against them alone then there wont be any foreigner in Afghanistan. Let us pray that Afghanistan become as strong as Pakistan to fight against Taliban then there will be no justification of the presence of NATO etc in Afghanistan.

The Anti Nato lobby always dismisses the presence of foreign militants in Afghanistan under the Talib government especially those of Punjabi Sectarian nature, Afghanistan was invaded the day Najibullah was hanged.

[R3SISTANC3]

Our ancestors fought with their blood, sweat and tears, they did not kidnap young boys and indoctrinate them to become "fidayeens" for 72 virgins.

Our ancestors were honorable dignified men not the types you see now a days with their begging bowl.

Brother, if you were standing in front of our elders, you'd be missing your head, and your blood dripping from the sword of Mirwais Hotak or Ahmed Shah. Please don't talk about our elders. I don't know which history book you have read. They would have never agreed with your likes and would support Mullah Omar to their full extent.

The people that kidnap young boys are no different than your sponsored thugs that kill young and old Afghans for sport who collect their body parts as trophies.

[Badlun]

The Anti Nato lobby always dismisses the presence of foreign militants in Afghanistan under the Talib government especially those of Punjabi Sectarian nature, Afghanistan was invaded the day Najibullah was hanged.

Yes Dr Najib martyrdom was the turning point in Afghan history. He was a great Afghan leader and he would have made Afghanistan a great country but Alas was martyred by these barbarian Taliban.He was a true Afghan, a great statesman.

[R3SISTANC3]

The Anti Nato lobby always dismisses the presence of foreign militants in Afghanistan under the Talib government especially those of Punjabi Sectarian nature, Afghanistan was invaded the day Najibullah was hanged.

This NATO, is it not made up of people against who your elders fought vigorously and liberated their land? How do you think your elders would feel knowing that Prince Harry walked on their soil once again, with his Parangee pride, kicking and stomping their beloved soil?

Being Anti-NATO is a matter of pride for Pashtuns, not shame, brother.

[unknownprince]

My post as "thetruth"

the region appears to have united against foreign intervention and meddling (SCO summit). This foreign intervention started in 1953 when the US backed a coup against Mossadeq and installed the Shah. Mossadeq was publicly elected and supported by the Iranian nation, but due to OIL, the US started interfering. He nationalized the OIL. To this day, the Iranian nation has done quite well without foreign intervention. The Iranian revolution commenced and brought down the Shah. In retaliation, the US fully backed Sadaam Hussein with arms and ammunition to wage a war against Iran. Iraq was defeated. Iran contra reveals how the US backed both sides secretly to pro-long the war for their own interests.

This did not start on 9/11

US intervention in the region since 1953 created instability, and thus is the sole barrier to peace and prosperity in the region and civilized world. Afghans do not want war and occupation. Is this not clear? War supporters do not want to accept that the Afghan people are opposed to the occupation of their homeland, regardless of what political philosophy they follow."Afghans oppose permanent US bases" PressTV - Afghans oppose permanent US bases

Hence, there is no doubt that the Afghan nation is standing firm against the foreign occupation of their land. Professors and Afghans from all walks of life have held multiple demonstrations against foreign occupation and the war on their land. The Afghan Democratic Socialist party has now made their position very clear. US loss in regards to casaulties and non-existent money has increased so much so that it has contributed to the collapse of US influence and power throughout the world, and especially the East. it appears that this is irreversible. China's rise can not be challenged. It is the emerging superpower. Power is shifting to the East.

A group of FAILED Western lowly educated expats like Karzai and Spanta have no support from the people, and are in fact resented from every corner of Afghanistan. In fact, as this war ends, I am sure charges will be filed in the international courts to bring these criminals to justice. Karzai, himself, personally has supported the war which is complete against the resentment of foreign occupation voiced by the Afghan people

According to ISAF data , they have purposely been targeting civilians to put pressure on other Afghans. This is their own admission. There appears to be no shame now in admitting this.US night raids killed 1,500 Afghan civilians
By Gareth Porter Asia Times Online :: US night raids killed 1,500 Afghan civilians

The SCO summit is a sure sign of the regional unity and peace that will soon commence, and there is nothing that can be done when the region is united to end war, and put an end to foreign aggression and meddling. In the name of peace and prosperity, the region thwarted Western designs against Central and South Asia at the US choreographed Istanbul summit, and instead Iran, Pakistan, China, and Russia united against foreign meddling in the region. The writing is clearly on the wall. "US's post-2014 Afghan agenda falters" Asia Times Online :: US's post-2014 Afghan agenda falters

"Moscow came up with its own counterproposal in the shape of a statement of principles of regional cooperation listing political, economic and other measures to build confidence and encourage cooperation among the countries neighboring Afghanistan. The Russian approach found favor with China, Pakistan and Iran, and being unexceptional in any case, it gained traction and ultimately"

"Pakistan's contention is that Afghanistan's neighboring countries could at best have a supportive role in ensuring the peace, security and territorial integrity of that country"

Bottom line is OIL companies should buy oil at whatever price OPEC deems it to be otherwise perhaps the day will come when OIL will be at $1000 per barrel.

This is not hypothetical thinking when you consider that no one would have thought that the Western backed tyrant Hosni Mubarak would be sitting behind bars

[graveyardofempires]

Din Lala

i agree with you fully.

and yet again we see on this thread the same half baked members chat their typical nonsense.

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[Zmarak]

The presence of NATO and others is to strengthen the Afghan forces...

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[JAMALUDEEN]

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[din]

why are those foreigners helping us ? in their own country , they have poor people themselves & each year they increased taxes for for middle class people ... there own coutry , they has no homes to live in . too much interest for their own people in the bank! they have reasonable fines for violations , & resturants & etc & People in their own countie can't paid there rent & every country has bad ecomnomy & they don't really help there people & they don't have jobs for there OWN People. & in those countries who help like afghanistan & other poor countries , why their after these countries , when there lost themselves & there country needs more help !!!!!

[unknownprince]

why are those foreigners helping us ? in their own country , they have poor people themselves & each year they increased taxes for for middle class people ... there own coutry , they has no homes to live in . too much interest for their own people in the bank! they have reasonable fines for violations , & resturants & etc & People in their own countie can't paid there rent & every country has bad ecomnomy & they don't really help there people & they don't have jobs for there OWN People. & in those countries who help like afghanistan & other poor countries , why their after these countries , when there lost themselves & there country needs more help !!!!!

They are not helping at all. The money they use is either American tax payer money,foreign loans or non-existent and unbacked money printed by the Federal Reserve, so they are doing two things. 1) Stealing American tax payer money to fund the military industry and 2) waging wars against the Eastern nations of the world.


They do not care for their own people. There is a growing number of poor people in the US that are ignored. I have volunteered at medical clinics, and the vast majority of people do not have access to medical care. Parts of the US are like the third world, and even worse because people do not have proper families that they can depend on in a time of need.

In the US, many Muslims have adopted and become part to the system. The system does not distinguish along religious or racial differences. It is purely people with wealth and those without wealth- that is the actual difference that separates the classes of people. Many Muslims in the US just like other people have become absorbed into this system, and are obsessed with material gains in life, forgetting the world which is suffering. A beggar on the street can be ignored because they say (the government will take care, or these people are drug addicts they like to think).


The US war in Afghanistan has failed, and the longer they prolong the failure, the worse the US and European economic position will be. China will continue to rise regardless of the pro-longing or ending of this war. Ending the war is the best way for the US to get out of the mess it is in. The continuation of the current ways will not last.

[Badlun]

Security comes first. Taliban and other terrorists are a security threat to the world thus they are trying to pre-empt this threat.

USA is still world No 1 power. Still millions of foreigners are working there to help their families back home. One thousand dollars is more than 40000 Afghanis and earning 1000 bucks is in every body's reach.Every country has economic problems but the developed world is still far better than the under developed Afghanistan, Pakistan or other Muslim countries.

They have many things to feel proud. What we have except terrorism, wars, extremism, bigotry, illiteracy, smuggling, drugs and many other evils.We don't have a single scientific invention at our credit.And still we consider ourselves the graveyard of empires. We are just a graveyard. Nothing more than that.Graveyard for our own selves not for empires.

[unknownprince]

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Security comes first. Taliban and other terrorists are a security threat to the world thus they are trying to pre-empt this threat.

Terrorism is a subjective and therefore opinionated term devoid of factual basis.

The US presence in the Afghanistan, Pakistan, the region, is the source of instability, and as long as there is a US presence, there will be no peace.

The US meddling throughout the world is the barrier to global peace. However, with the US economy in the decline, and China's on the rise, it is a foregone conclusion that the era of the US meddling is soon at its end.

USA is still world No 1 power.

Actually, China is the emerging and unchallenged power. If US was the world No 1 power, they would not be fearing China's rise which has already happened whether one likes it or not.

Still millions of foreigners are working there to help their families back home. One thousand dollars is more than 40000 Afghanis and earning 1000 bucks is in every body's reach.Every country has economic problems but the developed world is still far better than the under developed Afghanistan, Pakistan or other Muslim countries.

By waging a war in Afghanistan, a nation known as the graveyard of empires, the US and the West have followed the fate of those before them. Afghans have suffered, there is no doubt, but the beginnings of a stone age for the West are certainly on the horizon.

Iran will hijack oil prices. Nations such as Egypt and Tunisia are assuming Sharia governments. US influence is over. Delusions will not help.

They have many things to feel proud. What we have except terrorism, wars, extremism, bigotry, illiteracy, smuggling, drugs and many other evils.We don't have a single scientific invention at our credit.And still we consider ourselves the graveyard of empires. We are just a graveyard. Nothing more than that.Graveyard for our own selves not for empires.

It is not the fault of the Afghan people, that outsiders continue to interfere in Afghanistan. Afghanistan will never be ruled, and any nation that tries will destroy themselves in the process. It is a historically and presently fatal decision to make. It is China's foresight that will lead to their extensive emergence as a more superior power than the US. Size of the economy does not mean anything if the economy has no growth, and only shows decline. The US economy is larger than China's, but the US economy is in the decline whereas China's has the highest growth rates in the world which explains why they have so much surplus cash to invest in soft power influence whereas the US is unable to bail out the EU which has been dependent on it. China will take over the EU because no one else can. EU has two choices, to accept and come to terms with the collapse of their economy or to be owned by China. What choice would a people accustomed to dependency take?

The US and West will never rise from the rut they have found themselves in. China prefers to have unequal relations with the US consumer companies. This continues to drag the US economy down.


Buddy, wake up and smell the coffee!

The reality is written on the wall. The era of the West is over.


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[Soldat_Amir]

Unknownprince, DIN is asking questions for "Pashtuns".

I hope you understand not all Pashtuns follow your Pro Pakistani/Anti Americanism.

I am sure you will be a hit on PTI forums.

Have a great day.