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  • #46
    Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
    Most Pashtuns have Khan as a sure name yet its Turkic by origin. Whats your point.

    Most Pashtuns have Arabic names, does that mean they are Arabs

    Use better logic!
    And how many pashtuns have the surname Andersen pray thee tell?

    By the way, regarding being related to Karzai, the Pope, a doctor, a lawyer, or two Mahsud reporters... that doesnt give evidence or weight to your claim.

    Its like my relative saying: Look dude, we are related to a heart doctor so if we say drink mud 3 times a day to treat your heart attack, well then its gotta be right.

    And in regard to the western sources, just because you cannot debunk Pape and his methodology or take on scheuer's open source data doesnt deligitimize them. In fact it make them more legitimate. What does Robert Pape have to gain if the war ends or continues? If it ends and the Afghan war stops then he actually suffers.

    The other issue is FT ANDERSEN's continued claim that no, i repeat 0% of the deaths from drone attacks are civilian. As the BBC reference shows, that is just not true.

    On our side of the border, this has been definitively disproven to the embarassment of the Afghan government and General Peteraus:

    "Attending that jirga, however, were Clive Stafford Smith and Tara Murray, two US lawyers who trained at Columbia and Harvard. They tell me, unequivocally, that US law is based on the fact that every person is innocent until proven guilty. Why was Tariq, even if a terrorist suspect, not offered an opportunity to defend himself?


    Let me offer an important alternative argument - the US government has a record of making terrible mistakes in this covert war. On 2 September 2010, the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan claimed to have killed Muhammad Amin, the alleged Taliban deputy governor of Takhar province in Afghanistan, in a drone strike. There was only one problem: Michael Semple, a Taliban expert at Harvard University, subsequently interviewed Muhammad Amin and confirmed that he was alive and well and living in Pakistan in March 2011.


    The man who was killed was Zabet Amanullah, who was out campaigning in parliamentary elections - along with nine of his fellow election workers. This was confirmed by exhaustive research conducted by Kate Clark, a former BBC correspondent in Kabul who now works for the Afghanistan Analysts Network, who had met with Zabet Amanullah in 2008. The error could have been avoided, Clark points out in her report, if US military intelligence officers had just been "watching election coverage on television", instead of living in its "parallel world" remote from "normal, everyday world of Afghan politics".

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...n_1086622.html

    Sorry Maseed, you lose again. And next time you send that Skank Andersen a video, and next time she is dumb enough to claim a 100% accuracy rate for the drones, be sure to have her sign on with her anglocized surnamed.
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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    • #47
      Originally posted by man
      this guy chnages his name every time. last time it was amanullah maseed.
      http://rt.com/usa/news/xenophobia-am...mments/page-2/

      http://1millionunited.org/blogs/blog...e-kfc-protest/

      http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/12915

      Look at the commentary on the bottom

      "Amanullah Maseed,
      Obviously the British governments needs its Islamist proxies, it wasnt long ago, that these same people conspired a uprising in Uzbekistan, to topple Islam Karimov because he refused to host a Nato base in this country, and was close to starting world war 3 when Russian troops backed by Uzbek soldiers, forced them to leave, all of a sudden there was a armed uprising, HUT was involved, and the Uzbek government arrested many British Nationals.
      I missed the chances that WW3 was about to commence?
      Please provide some detail for this homongous blind spot that I appear to have missed"

      Its Maseed with the same rhetoric that pretty much destabilizes the Muslim world. Look into every commentary board on Serbia, Sudan, Uzbekistan, Saudi, etc and there is Maseed pretty much saying that Muslims and their causes should be crushed relentlessly and that folks like Islam Karimov, a tyrant that murders his own people, that changed his name post the fall of the Soviets, that kills innocent Uzbeks day in and day out to suit the reality that his people did not want him imposing himself onto their religious beliefs has earned our indefinite support.

      Basically, Maseed is the reason that for the Muslim world's radicalization. To him, its A OK when anti Arabization separatists (his words not mine) make good with southern Sudan's oil fields, but the Kashmiri cause, the Bosnian cause, and the Chechnyan cause are all evil Muslim contrivances and the West, in Maseed's vision does perfectly well destroying these indigenous movements.

      What does this create? Well it does exactly this:

      Michael Scheuer: Osama bin Laden and Sudan - YouTube

      Maseed cannot connect the dots that Chechen and Uzbeks and Arabs are in foreign lands because of the idiotic causes he supports. The Islamist leanings of the Arab spring, with Belhaj in Libya, with the Tunisian election results, and with the rioting in Syria should more than adequately show him that he sticks his nose into these countries affairs and demands that the West support these bas-tards in crushing their people.. and then he gets upset when they stream across the globe into jihad conflicts where Western troops are amassed. [/URL]
      Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 11-20-2011, 03:30 PM.
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        • #49
          http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail...0%99s-presence

          Imran met Munter in ISI chief’s presence

          LONDON: Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan was recently introduced to Cameron Munter, American Ambassador to Pakistan, in the presence of General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the ISI chief, according to sources, The Sunday Times reported. Imran Khan is said to have gained the backing of the country’s powerful security establishment, which has grown tired of the corruption pervading the two traditional political groupings, the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP), led by President Asif Ali Zardari, and the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), led by Nawaz Sharif, a former prime minister.

          Although they do not publicly admit to favouring any party, it is an open secret that the military leadership, and the powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), are backing Imran Khan’s campaign, said The Sunday Times report.

          A senior official confirmed ...

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Toramana View Post
            Hahahaha

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            • #51


              hahaha...Nawaz Sharif and Co etc. have already started exposing Imran Khan---this is one of their posters...
              Last edited by Toramana; 11-23-2011, 09:26 PM.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Toramana View Post


                hahaha...Nawaz Sharif and Co etc. have already started exposing Imran Khan---this is one of their poster...
                Hmmm, this is very good to know as the positions of the communist ikhwani become secularist capitalist are clear. The fact that you, Farhat T Andersen, and Maseed are hopping like rabbits over him seems to point to the fact that Khan is actually good for regional stability and indigenous causes.

                Now, I will have to read up on him. Please tell me which other folks you 3 dont like so Pakistani voters here can be sure to cast ballots for them.

                "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                • #53
                  The world is up side down for Imran Khan, a liberal hated by secularists but adored by religionists.

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