Afghanistan being landlocked

[abassinafghan]

Why you are asking about my grandfather?. His name was mosam khan and he was a landlord.
But you have grown up in west, are you sure about your father?

you didnt answerd my question , what was your grandfather ? not who he was , but what was he ! not what profession he had , or what he possesed , but what kind of blood runned thrue his veins .


i am not not born nor grown up in the west .

my grandfahters name is mullah mirwais rahim , my fahters name is adulrasul .

we are inhibitants of khandahr , and in khandahr of the villahe of shirpurkh . we are alokozai by qaum .


for your disrespectfull question , like all pakistanis are known for , i would have slayed you down , for dareing calling me a ******* or suggesting it .

how ever i have alot of doubts that you are after all a pashtun , especially the words which i hear from you . it seems more to me that an ismaeli shuia which is cheering up for angress is talking with me .


so i ask you a last time , what was your grandfather ? a pakistani ?, a punjabi ? `an angress ? a sikh ?

[Talal]

talal based on that your pakistan is a british created country you have no right and no claim on pashtunistan nor on balochistan .

any questions left ?

well if there was a current movement/support for Pashtunistan within Pakistan, then i suppose you could push for a "right" to Karachi port but to be realistic i think if the Afghan government tries they might be able to achieve a workable solution that benefits both countries.

[abassinafghan]

talal i agree , on this .

but i there is acutally no need for this , the mqm is the biggest help on this

combined with the treason of your punjabi and sindu friends .

there will come a point where the people wont take any **** anymore.

in karachi people are killed because they want to work and have decent life , however i guess they are not considered pakistanis as soon they leave their villages in pashtunistan and move their over.

in pashtunistan , cia and americans are bombing day in day out villages just because of suspicison , people get killed by your so called air force .

the napak goverment does nothing against it , they even support it !!!

maybe you consider the people stupid , but even the most stupid realize that there is point of no return .

[Michin Khel]

you didnt answerd my question , what was your grandfather ? not who he was , but what was he ! not what profession he had , or what he possesed , but what kind of blood runned thrue his veins .


i am not not born nor grown up in the west .

my grandfahters name is mullah mirwais rahim , my fahters name is adulrasul .

we are inhibitants of khandahr , and in khandahr of the villahe of shirpurkh . we are alokozai by qaum .


for your disrespectfull question , like all pakistanis are known for , i would have slayed you down , for dareing calling me a ******* or suggesting it .

how ever i have alot of doubts that you are after all a pashtun , especially the words which i hear from you . it seems more to me that an ismaeli shuia which is cheering up for angress is talking with me .


so i ask you a last time , what was your grandfather ? a pakistani ?, a punjabi ? `an angress ? a sikh ?

You called me harami and be namos, i did'nt retialate as this is e-world and you are safe behind PC. Then you asked me about my grandpa, i replied. I would add he was a marwat and marwats are sur pashtuns. That would be enough.
But you live in west, do you know who was your genetic father? Was he a black african or white angraiz? Or indian?

[abassinafghan]

luffy oh really he was marwat and a pashtun , then why are you defending punjabis and sindhus a kafir state founded by ismaeli shias ?

you side your self with them you feel closer to them , fine .


but as you know loy khandahar was always independent as afghanistan was , our forefathers fought 3 wars angainst the angress so we can life with our heads up and not to stand behind any one .

thats the reason , i dont cheer for americans angress , or anybody else , but just my own people who are pashtuns and afghans . because pashtun equals afghan .


how ever you on the opposite as is said before stand for other people , so keep being a good punjabi pakistani what ever .

BUT DONT DARE TO CALL YOUR SELF PASHTUN OR AFGHAN !!!

[Michin Khel]

Dear abassinafghan ask your question from each and every pashtun of pakistan that why they consider themeselves pakistani citizens.
I occasionally defend my country which doesnt mean i support punjabis. If you think i am a chamcha of punjabis then i refute it, Pakistan is not a punjabi country, it is federation of four nations , one of which is pashtun. If you consider 30 million pashtuns of pakistan as traitors then you have to give some serious explanations of your thinking.

[abassinafghan]

1.first who says this figure is right

2. who says that every dala ou dawus who puts a khan on his surename ,is pashtun ?


3. who says that all those pashtuns or even the majority of the ones who are living in pashtunistan consider their selfes pakistanis ?

[Michin Khel]

1.first who says this figure is right

2. who says that every dala ou dawus who puts a khan on his surename ,is pashtun ?


3. who says that all those pashtuns or even the majority of the ones who are living in pashtunistan consider their selfes pakistanis ?

1-There are 3.5 million pashto speakers in KP, FATA and balochistan. It doesnt include those who claim to be pathans and cant speak pashto.
2- Prove to me that lar pashtuns dont consider themeselves pakistanis. Hispanics in USA consider themeselves american citizens or blacks consider themeselves american citizens. If you dont believe me, then visit each district of KP and ask random pashtuns whether they consider themeselves afghan citizens or pakistani citizens.
By the way how old are you?

[NokiaWnW]

our future and our development depends on an access to the sea .

the whole durrand and pashtunistan question is about an access to the sea.

otherwise look what we had in the past and we have in the present , we are depending on the iranians as on the pakis , if we had an agreement that would allow us a total free float of goods there were no problem .

however such an agreement can be only accomplished if you have force as an insurance , otherwise you will be only overruned.

dont forget ,countries dont have friends, there is no muslim brotherhood , only interessts .

no truely independent goverment can tolerate that the afghan people are black mailed by the iranian or the pakis , by cutting us off by our exports and imports. and this happend time over time over time .

to build up an sustainable economy we have to break up this choke with which the iranians and the pakis are strangulating us for decades .

its like the egg and the chicken , which was first there ???

Baluchistan is not Afghanistan ... Land of Baluchs ... Land of Afghans ... do you see any logic begind it? Baluchs are fighting for their own independence and it seems they will have soon support from US. You do the same what Porkistan is doing in Afghanistan and Pakhtunwha. Claiming on non-Pashtun lands! Are you different than Porkistan? Stop hypocrisy. Karachi is populated 1/3 by Pashtuns but Baluchs have all keys in their hands and do not leave anything for us and create only problems and hatred between Baluchs, Mojahers and Pashtuns.

[NokiaWnW]

Switzerland is landlocked and one of the most developed nations on earth with very high standard of living. Although being landlocked is a huge disadvantage. we have to accept it and move on. We have other advantages like being in the heart of Asia and on the crossroads between major trade regions, like subcontinent, middle east, china and central asia.

Switzerland is not se-Asia! ´Middle Europe is a world for it´s own. Even Americans are jealous of Middle Europe