Afghanistan being landlocked

[afgpower]

hello all,

i've been reading on this subjext quite a long time and I wanted to ask to share your views and answers.
is it possible for afghanistan to develop it self being landlocked? shouldn't we have the right on a corridor from pakistan to the sea?

please share your view

[Talal]

shouldn't we have the right on a corridor from pakistan to the sea?

based on what ?

But yeah Afghanistan has huge potential to be like a mega land port linking up south asia with the mideast and central asia

[abassinafghan]

our future and our development depends on an access to the sea .

the whole durrand and pashtunistan question is about an access to the sea.

otherwise look what we had in the past and we have in the present , we are depending on the iranians as on the pakis , if we had an agreement that would allow us a total free float of goods there were no problem .

however such an agreement can be only accomplished if you have force as an insurance , otherwise you will be only overruned.

dont forget ,countries dont have friends, there is no muslim brotherhood , only interessts .

no truely independent goverment can tolerate that the afghan people are black mailed by the iranian or the pakis , by cutting us off by our exports and imports. and this happend time over time over time .

to build up an sustainable economy we have to break up this choke with which the iranians and the pakis are strangulating us for decades .

its like the egg and the chicken , which was first there ???

[abassinafghan]

talal based on that your pakistan is a british created country you have no right and no claim on pashtunistan nor on balochistan .

any questions left ?

[Soldat_Amir]

our future and our development depends on an access to the sea .

Not true. Africa is surrounded by sea and yet they are in a worse situation as Afghanistan is. Eastern European countries are also land locked yet they are quite successful in business and trade, and have a good standard of living.

the whole durrand and pashtunistan question is about an access to the sea.

Pakistan has access to the sea, and yet its a trash can. The Durrand line issue was a issue of division of a once united people. Pashtunistan, was a cause to unite lar o bar pashtun. Who said, the Balochis will hand out their port to Pashtuns without conditions and terms. Look at Karachi, they have a access to the sea yet the people still live under the poverty line. Successful countries are those who have a educated population who follow laws and prevent society from falling into divisions.

otherwise look what we had in the past and we have in the present , we are depending on the iranians as on the pakis , if we had an agreement that would allow us a total free float of goods there were no problem .

Iran is more reliable than Pakistan, Iran may have supported Shia jihadis in Afghanistan, but they are more trustworthy in terms of business than the Pakistanis. Afghanistan needs what Pakistan has always wished for, access to Central Asia, if Afghanistan produces a trade route through Putin's future Euroasia, it will benefit Afghanistan very much.

however such an agreement can be only accomplished if you have force as an insurance , otherwise you will be only overruned.

I agree to some extent, the population needs to united and organised. Sectarian violence, tribalism and radical militant Mullahs will always get in the way of a progressive and strong Afghanistan.

dont forget ,countries dont have friends, there is no muslim brotherhood , only interessts .

Countries do have allies and friends, but its us who have not due to listening to outsiders on how we should run our lives. I agree there is no such thing as Muslim brother, we are living in the era of nation building, and every country is looking out for their own interests.

no truely independent goverment can tolerate that the afghan people are black mailed by the iranian or the pakis , by cutting us off by our exports and imports. and this happend time over time over time .

We as Afghans have tolerated abuse from both the Iranians and Pakis for the last 50 years however sadly our people have not woken up.

to build up an sustainable economy we have to break up this choke with which the iranians and the pakis are strangulating us for decades .

We need to industralise our society, produce more than import. Iranians and Pakis need Afghanistan for transit, we could apply taxes and make revenue from that. I support good relations with Central Asian states, they are resourceful full of gas and oil, and they are connected with Russia, who has ports and access to the sea, who are also more reliable than this flawed Muslim countries we are neighbours with.

its like the egg and the chicken , which was first there ???

Its a tough world we live in, however, if Afghans share and treat eachother with respect and equality, we can live on our own furtile lands, grow our own food, and share the land to feed the masses.

[badmash_khel]

Switzerland is landlocked and one of the most developed nations on earth with very high standard of living. Although being landlocked is a huge disadvantage. we have to accept it and move on. We have other advantages like being in the heart of Asia and on the crossroads between major trade regions, like subcontinent, middle east, china and central asia.

[Insaaf_انصاف]

We can't have an access to sea... Because it's a balochi land.... Not pashtun. And only north balochistan province is pashtun...

[Michin Khel]

hello all,

i've been reading on this subjext quite a long time and I wanted to ask to share your views and answers.
is it possible for afghanistan to develop it self being landlocked? shouldn't we have the right on a corridor from pakistan to the sea?

please share your view

right on a corridor from pakistan to sea? Balochistan ye ta neko zmaka da?.
Why you afghans always drools for balochistan for route to sea, why not ask iran to give irani balochistan for access to sea?...dale kho pakistan na taso khwand bindale, iran taso ghunde khalko sara sahih jorr da.

[afgpower]

right on a corridor from pakistan to sea? Balochistan ye ta neko zmaka da?.
Why you afghans always drools for balochistan for route to sea, why not ask iran to give irani balochistan for access to sea?...dale kho pakistan na taso khwand bindale, iran taso ghunde khalko sara sahih jorr da.

de afghanistan tarieg ne peshane? balochistan kho asly e afghanistan wo . iran mung ta whale yaw corridor bayad rokry?

khob wakaa

[Michin Khel]

de afghanistan tarieg ne peshane? balochistan kho asly e afghanistan wo . iran mung ta whale yaw corridor bayad rokry?

khob wakaa

Da yo baloch ta mana makh wuwaya, che rogh tar washai...balochistan was never part of afghanistan...during ahmad shah abdali times, khan of qalat made alliance with afghans as durranis were too powerful for them...remember that balochs are of independant nature. They are seeking help from afghanistan against pakistan , not to be part of your country but to gain independance.
Iran was once occupied by hotakis, so go claim over whole iran.

[abassinafghan]

to compare afghanistan with switzerland or eastern european countries , now is not correct .

we have not a european union , we have not a strong stable goverment , we are sorrounded by enemies who are taking advantage , we dont have 200 years of peace

our geostrategic positions makes us vulnerable for many interessts , we face pressure from big players as from local ones .

there two options , one is to use force , which we dont posses .

the second option is to use diplomancy and politics and do a reverse , instead they playing us out against each other , that we start to play with them .

why are the europeans and americans in afgh ? they dont care about islam , and even less about imposing their lifestyle on ,us .

to them we are not even humans . their only reason they are there , is to install a goverment which gurantee the transit of pipelines , and the flow of gas from central asia , so they are not dependend on the russians .

of course they have also other interessts , but this is the major one , imagine there is an afghan goverment who blocks the pipe lines when ever they want . wether on own decicisons or on russian ,indian , iranian chinese or paki , advice ?

but even with it comes to politics it make nosence if we are splitt in tousand factions .


besides , we have no allies , and also allies only allies because they came to a conclusion that they have common interessts , and in order to reach them the cooperate .

it can not be in our interesst , to change american occupation in reward for iranian or paki dominance . both are no option , why be a lackai of the third row .

if you eat **** than dont eat **** of the daal chor but the palau chor .


i can assure you that we can not build up an sustainable economy with out an port to the sea , the goods which will come out of afghanistan in the next 30 years will be natural resourcess and it will take a loooong time and alot of commitment to industrialize our country to degree of the second world .

besides to this , we dont have the capabilities to sustain , if the iranians block the borders we dont have access to fuel no car will run , if the napaks close the border the people starve because our agricultural sector is to inefficent and we have to buy corn and wheat from the market.

and those things happend , time over time over time


with the balochs we can work out , we are both facing overwhelming pressures from the indians as the iranians , let alone the pakis today

but in a future where pakistan will collapse just like the soviet unions did ,
there can be a fair and transperant agreement between a indipendant afghan state , and a indipendant balcohistan .

we have seen the sulum which was put upon us , we are not the ones who do the same on others. !!!!!



but luffy and the rest ? are you haramis ? have been your great great grand father , a pakistani ? no ! have your grandfahter a pakistani ? no !and his

they have been afghans ! if you say that you are a patriotic pakistani , then you decided to be my enemie !!!

how can be the creation of a scond israel 60 years ago be more important to you , than the truth which is in your blood for centuries ?

how can you side with such people ? just because you live there ? just because a british colonial officer decided so ?

is that your nang namous and iman ?

[Michin Khel]

Afghanistan has to stop relying on pakistan for every thing and stand on its own legs. The problem is that afghanistan is deficient in natural resources and its terrain is unsuitable for agriculture. Afghanistan is world's most poor and second most corrupt country after somalia. If ANP governament of KP can ban export (and smuggling) of meat to afghanistan, then balochian ba taso pa khpal saro na khazai. At the present pakistan itself is a developing country and has tons of problems like energy crisis , population explosion etc so i hope our governament would expel 6-7 million afghani parasites or atleast restrict them to refugee camps. And tens of thousands of afghans who have acquired pakistani citizenship through illegal means, should be arrested.

[abassinafghan]

luffy tell me what was your grandfather ?

[Insaaf_انصاف]

luffy tell me what was your grandfather ?

He was from faisalabad

[Michin Khel]

Why you are asking about my grandfather?. His name was mosam khan and he was a landlord.
But you have grown up in west, are you sure about your father?