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    Drones, Civilian Deaths and The New York Times

    By Charles Davis

    In Pakistan, according to American officials, strikes from Predators and Reapers operated by the C.I.A. have killed more than 2,000 militants; the number of civilian casualties is hotly debated. In Yemen last month, an American citizen was, for the first time, the intended target of a drone strike, as Anwar al-Awlaki, the Qaeda propagandist and plotter, was killed along with a second American, Samir Khan.
    "Coming Soon: The Drone Arms Race," The New York Times, 8 October 2011
    October 10, 2011 "Information Clearing House" -- Do civilians die in war? Not according to U.S. officials. Are their claims trustworthy or verifiable? It doesn't matter. What does is that they're making them.

    A number of things are noteworthy about the recent piece in the New York Times, excerpted above, on China getting into the unmanned killer drone game. First, there are some basic factual errors. Last month, for instance, was not "the first time" an American citizen was the target of a U.S. drone strike; back in May, Awlaki in fact survived an earlier such assassination attempt that left two his companions dead. And since the list of Americans determined by the Obama administration to be eligible for due process-free death by drone is classified, and since the drone strikes themselves are often not even acknowledged by U.S. officials, we really don't know if -- and the Times plainly can't assert with certainty -- even that strike was the actually the first attempt on an American citizen's life.

    Most interesting, though, is what the piece shows about the willingness of the Times to print, unchallenged, claims by U.S. officials -- and how readily it's willing to ignore or downplay widely reported facts when they're disputed by those in power. For example, we are told as a matter of unattributed fact that Awlaki was a terrorist "plotter," despite the lack of any solid evidence for that assertion having been made public by American officials. Indeed, Reuters reports that those very officials acknowledge "the intelligence purporting to show Awlaki's hands-on role in plotting attacks was patchy." Experts on the ground in Yemen also report Awlaki "did not have any real role" in the organization he was accused of being a part of.

    And yet, there it is: "Anwar al-Awlaki, the Qaeda propagandist and plotter."

    Then there is the line about the number of "militants" killed by CIA drone strikes. Here, the Times is very specific: 2,000 have died, though the assertion this time comes with an "according to American officials." Are these militants members of al-Qaeda? The Taliban? Just men between the ages of 12 and 60 who don't passively accept a U.S. military occupation in their backyard? The paper doesn't deign to tell its readers. It probably didn't bother to find out.

    A U.S. official said it, after all.

    The Times also doesn't appear to have bothered to find out the number of innocent men, women and children whose lives have been extinguished by flying death robots. That unmentionable number is merely "hotly disputed" -- and the details of the dispute not worth reporting.

    Never mind that Daniel Byman of the Brookings Institution, hardly a radical anti-war group, suggests that "for every militant killed, 10 or so civilians also died." Put aside the fact the New America Foundation more conservatively estimates one in five of those killed are civilians. And forget that the Bureau of Investigative Journalism has documented credible reports that "[m]ore than 160 children" and somewhere between "385-775 civilians" have been killed in U.S. drone strikes. The mere fact that Obama administration officials like John Brennan assert, contrary to all available evidence, that few if any civilians have died is all that matters to a respectable stenographer.

    The lesson for those who wish to be successful in the corporate media is this: If a U.S. national security official asserts something to be true, dutifully report it, preferably with no attribution. Objective facts, on the other hand, are not to be published provided that an anonymous government official takes issue with them, or if they're just too darn anti-Americany.

    The purpose of the corporate press is to service the needs of the state and its corporate masters, remember. While there may be instances of quality journalism in the likes of The Washington Post and The New York Time, their chief purpose is serving the corporate-state agenda, not the public interest. And the key to any fact being ignored or "hotly disputed" is the degree to which it challenges that mission.
    Charles Davis is an independent journalist : Email davis DOT charles84 @gmail.com - false dichotomy by charles davis

  • #2
    yeah we know Imperialists are evil

    what is the Taliban's excuse for performing such evils as well ?

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    • #3
      Which evils?

      care to share?

      or you are god and we should take your word for it?

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      • #4
        if it doesn't take God to know the NeoImperialists are evil; wy would it take God to know the Taliban are evil

        special pleading much?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
          if it doesn't take God to know the NeoImperialists are evil; wy would it take God to know the Taliban are evil

          special pleading much?
          Why always in this confrontational mood...Height of egotism...Give Al-Chemist brother the chance to say what he wanna say...You are killing the baby before it is born...

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          • #6
            Toramana, you and I both know such apologetics for the Taliban enable and give leeway to such heinous crimes against Muslims

            are you so willing to abandon our own morality just to nurse your wounded forum ego?

            get some self esteem will ya?

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            • #7
              So basically ****mitar, the american wellfare recipient (in the name of education), is defending American atrocities because he believes the Kufar killing Muslims is natural and acceptable...only muslim killing muslim is abhorring and unacceptable.


              This is why I call him a dumbass.

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              • #8
                quote me where I say that

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
                  So basically ****mitar, the american wellfare recipient (in the name of education), is defending American atrocities because he believes the Kufar killing Muslims is natural and acceptable...only muslim killing muslim is abhorring and unacceptable.


                  This is why I call him a dumbass.
                  here buddy:



                  Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                  yeah we know Imperialists are evil

                  what is the Taliban's excuse for performing such evils as well ?
                  did I misunderstand your acknowledgement of their evil over there? You were affirming that it was in the nature of imperialists to be evil... right?

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                  • #10
                    saying something is expected is not saying it is acceptable


                    so you're wrong

                    but why do you keep evading my question about the Taliban? What excuse do the Taliban have to murder Muslims under the pretext that they use?

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                    • #11
                      You answer my question, and you will find your answer to your question in it.


                      Why does the US get to train Afghan National Army Soldiers to Kill Muslims?


                      Secondly, show evidence of Taliban intentionally aiming to kill civilians.

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                      • #12
                        so you're basically avoiding my question

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                        • #13
                          how do you know it is deliberate? Can you show evidence?

                          or you are an omnipotent being who can read the intentions of people half way around the world, with whom you have absolutely no contact at all.

                          Also you show that if ANA deliberately kills Muslims, then it is acceptable murder...

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                          • #14
                            Rest assured most of the Alqueda senior leadership has been killed by Drones.

                            Civilian deaths are due to the locals reluctance to boot out the criminals from their villages.

                            If you know, the Militants are in your village hence a drone is most likely to attack them, then why hang about with them?

                            Sorry to say this, but its our duty and responsible for the betterment of our region so in essence its justify to say, we should prevent such unsavory ones from occupying our land and attracting such carnage.

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                            • #15
                              This quetion is almost eternal, and following in many themes dear peeople!
                              And it will never come to a solution - You can ask and reask yourself those questions.
                              Untill people will not learn to fight echother like a man every side will kill civilians.
                              I would say it is both almost very unbrave(I don'T know the right english word, hope you understand), to bomb somebody with a joystick fearing direct contact with your enemy and to kill yourself in the difficult situation of your nation avoiding the direct contact.
                              nor of both is fighting, both is killing , and both is unaimd killing as no explosion, sould it be of an airbombing or of a siucide bomber can ever aim to kill only the enemy.
                              After those actions every talk about spirituality and faith and human rights and patriotism looses its sense.
                              All this methods are cruel and weak - and weakness will never lead to strong spirit and something positive. And untill mankind won't find a way to fight like a man - face to face and the best even without weapons but with the body - all will go on.
                              To use a bomb or a kalashnikov or a rocket You needn't be a fighter, you needen'T nor spirit, nor moral, you need only your finger to push the pulsants of your stingger, missile, kalashnikov or bomb - people with weak spirit even if they win technically a war will never bring peace, as their hard is full of fear and weakness.
                              Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                              Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                              Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                              Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                              Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                              Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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