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  • #31
    Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
    Just to point out I didn't dispute the Qu'ran. The debates about Sharia stem from the sources of Sharia that come from secondary elements e.g. jurists/scholars and their interpretations of Hadith/Qu'ran.

    Saudi, Iran and the smaller Gulf states inbetween claim to have legal systems based on the Sharia. That would be their claim; not mine. There are degrees of interpretation over various matters. Many Muslims both inside and outside the region would debate these interpretations.
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    • #32
      15% more civilian are being killed by Nato strikes now than last year, this is uk reports ,their drones fall on children yeah children are the taliban little 3 year olds are a danger.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by kakargirl View Post
        15% more civilian are being killed by Nato strikes now than last year, this is uk reports ,their drones fall on children yeah children are the taliban little 3 year olds are a danger.


        the majority of civilian deaths are still caused by suicide bombs by the Taliban

        Most Afghan civilian deaths 'caused by Taliban attacks, not US forces' | World news | The Guardian

        Popular fury over the killing of civilians in botched US-led attacks in Afghanistan is unlikely to be assuaged by new figures showing the Taliban are responsible for a vast and growing proportion of innocent deaths.

        The annual United Nations report on civilian casualties shows that more than two-thirds of the 2,777 civilians killed last year were the victims of insurgents – a 28% increase on 2009. By contrast Nato and Afghan government forces were responsible for killing 440, a 25% decrease.

        More than half of the deaths caused by the Taliban were the result of homemade bombs and suicide attacks.

        The report's authors said the "most alarming" trend was a 105% increase in the number of civilians assassinated by insurgents as part of the Taliban's campaign against government officials.

        Overall, it was the worst year since the war began more than nine years ago, with the number of civilian deaths up 15% compared with 2009.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post

          where in Shari'ah does it say you can beat a woman in the street? ....If she commmited zina they don't beat her but they lash her. This is not Shari'ah..
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          • #35
            News of the world the paper that hacks phones and has 13 year old girls raped and killed , good ridden to bad rubbish papers like that , i am sure UK prison is very nice cos thats where the staff is and as for guardian the paper that is making propaganda against Prince Charles the future king lol just because he gave a speech on islam telling the queen to put a nozzle on her son .
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            • #36
              USA along with Nato has killed too many innocent people, there drones fly computerized cos their cowards ,but the tiny children who get blown up there not human ,the land is full of graves and uk has admitted that over 60 talibans they took out in each raid yeah most taliban were helmand people who didn't want o foreign occupation .

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
                When the police beats men and women in the west, they do it because those people are not following the legislation. This has nothing to do with Shariah or not Shari'ah. Men and women should all be beaten alike if they dont follow the legislation of the country. That would be sexism to beat men but not women. I can show you pictures of western rioters bleeding to death by cops.
                we're talking about Shari'ah, Shari'ah doesn't follow what they do in the West. IT has everything to do with Shari'ah. in Islamic Shari'ah you can only apply Hadd for certain cases.



                Because the opium production was almost completely stopped in 2001,
                And now Taliban are engaged in opium production
                because americans are boundless liars.
                It's not Americans who was revealing negativity of the Taliban, but Muslims; even the news picture of Taliban kidnapping children comes from press and media in Muslim countries; and the Taliban were happy to show their captives.


                They said there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, they said there is Anthrax in Iraq, how the hell do you expect me to think that they are not lying in Afghanistan about Talibans ?
                Iraq and Afghanistan are two different situations; in Afghanistan's case it is Muslims themselves who are saying the Taliban are bad. Not america. America is also bad, but America being bad is not an excuse for the Taliban.

                I remember a time when Talibans were portrayed as good and pious fighters by the Americans : that was during the civil war against Soviet puppets.
                Those weren't the same group; those were Mujahideen of the 80's, many of those guys ended up killing Afghan Muslims in civil war in the 90's THEN the Taliban came. The bad Mujaideen became the Taliban and the people causing the civil war. The Good Mujahideen stopped fighting completely.




                There are infinite reasons to trust the Talibans.
                There are also infinite reasons not to trust the Taliban; how can you trust people who go on camera and ADMIT BY THEMSELVES< mot American propaganda that they will kill innocent people.

                This is against everything Islam stands for.
                I am a muslim, I pray 5 times a day and I asked Allah SWT to show me whether Talibans are righteous or not and all I can say is that Allah SWT never suggered to me that they are bad.
                Allah(swt) wants us to use our brain, that's why, we're supposed to SEEK Haq not wait for it.


                I edited it, 500,000 children died in Irak and Afghanistan alone. IED attacks are a fallacious argument as I said in my Original Post.


                Not true. In times of war, women and children should be at home and all men should be fighting, this is common sense.
                That's a lie because there were numerous women who accompanied Nabi(sw) during Battle of Badr and Uhud.

                Please you should learn Islamic History more than tell us what is Shari'ah; whatever Saudi Arabians or Talibans say is not Shari'ah.



                Munafiq rhetoric. I don't talk to munafiqs. This is my last answer to you.
                Then why are you supporting Munafiqeen like the Taliban? Stop bothering us and save Morocco.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                  we're talking about Shari'ah, Shari'ah doesn't follow what they do in the West. IT has everything to do with Shari'ah. in Islamic Shari'ah you can only apply Hadd for certain cases.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
                    You expect me to discredit the struggle of hundred of thousands of people who give their lives for Islam based on a single picture ?

                    It reminds me of ONE picture of a Taliban lashing a woman. This picture was used as propaganda to start this war and millions of people saw Talibans as evil because of this picture. A single picture. Everybody has seen this picture. There is only one picture of a Taliban lashing a woman in the whole internet and this is this one. Propaganda at its best. Or how to justify the killing of resistants who fight for their auto-determination and sovereignty picturing them as criminals and evil.




                    There is a reason why these teenagers were arrested by Talibans. They must have done something bad. Plus these teenagers are not dead. I don't buy your propaganda. Talibans arrest teenagers. America killed 500,000 children in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even as a non-muslim, I should support Talibans because America is the cancer of this world and Talibans are the chemo.

                    Allahouma ansar al mujahideen fikolimakan. Allahouma hfadhoum. Ameen, thuma Ameen.
                    Its this kind of meddling by Non Pashtuns that retards our society.

                    As Tor Khan said, I am sure there are more important places for you to free your Muslims such as your own Arab lands.

                    Spare the Pashtuns from your jibbierish, you have no first hand experience with the Taliban nor their rule.

                    You have never been to Pakhtunkhwa nor Afghanistan, and seem to me to be one of those cyber basement jihadis who watch too many Alqueda movies.

                    The Taliban have killed more Pashtun civlians than American/Nato Soldiers, they are bandits,criminals who hold onto a foreign agenda which is to make Afghanistan weak.

                    We as Pashtun Afghans, want to see our nation prosper, move forward and progress, we dont want people like you poisoning our minds with your chit chat bull**** about Jihad and fighting for Sharia.

                    Afghans are not fighting for Sharia, Pakistan ISI is, for what reason? for the sole reason of making sure Pashtun Nationalism does not arise.

                    If you want my honest opinion? Sharia will fade away just as its start to in Saudi Arabia with women wanting to drive.

                    Afghanistan does not need Sharia, Afghanistan needs a reform Pakhtunwali.

                    We no longer are subjects to your rule nor empire, and neither do we need instructions on how to live our lives from an Arab.

                    Go Free Palestine and Fight Israeli Army, Spare the Pashtun lives with your constant verbal diarrhoea!

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                    • #40
                      kiff kiff

                      thanks for your moral support , but no one asked you for this .

                      as far as i know there are alot of night clubs in morroco , and alot of the

                      chars and haschisch consumed in europe comes out of morroco .


                      besides to this there is still the french installed "monacharchy" and state ,

                      so before worrying about us , take care of your own country and install

                      sharia THERE .


                      we dont need help of british zionists ,who want us to show democracy nor

                      does we need arabs ,who dont have sharia in their own land but wants to

                      show us how our problems are solved

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        Its this kind of meddling by Non Pashtuns that retards our society.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                          kiff kiff

                          thanks for your moral support , but no one asked you for this .

                          as far as i know there are alot of night clubs in morroco , and alot of the

                          chars and haschisch consumed in europe comes out of morroco .


                          besides to this there is still the french installed "monacharchy" and state ,

                          so before worrying about us , take care of your own country and install

                          sharia THERE .


                          we dont need help of british zionists ,who want us to show democracy nor

                          does we need arabs ,who dont have sharia in their own land but wants to

                          show us how our problems are solved

                          I am not an Arab. I am willing to help you installing sharia in Afghanistan. BUT Are you willing to help me installing sharia in Morrocco ? If you are, then fine. If you are not then just stop dissing the people who want to help you.

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                          • #43
                            Assalamu Alaikum ,
                            Welcome to the forumns , I'm your neigbour from Libya .
                            Are you with or against bombing places where innocent people are ???

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by MohannaD View Post
                              Assalamu Alaikum ,
                              Welcome to the forumns , I'm your neigbour from Libya .
                              Are you with or against bombing places where innocent people are ???
                              Alaykum Salam
                              Last edited by Al Hanif; 03-01-2020, 08:52 PM.

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                              • #45
                                well , i dont care if you are arab or berbar , mind your own business FIRST .

                                as far as i know berbar people are very liberal ,also regarding to premarriage relation between men and women , but i think north africa in gerneral till egypt is in this regard very liberal .

                                you have to oust that bad behaviour , also the touareg seems to liberal

                                so MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS FIRST ! and than offer help to OTHERS .

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