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  • Industrial Society and Its Future - by Theodore Kaczynski

    The only constant is change.

  • #2
    I believe that's his manifesto .... I have his complete volume of writings
    /....Technological Slavery...pretty profound insights, almost Islamic

    are you interested in anarcho-primitivism and counter-civilizational ideas?

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    • #3
      I am.
      The only constant is change.

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      • #4
        I'm not able to check the link right now, but this is definitely an interesting topic.

        I believe industrializtion = globalization = homogenization.

        In the past with greater geographical and travel barriers everyone had their own food, culture and clothes. However go and see the way young people dress in many big cities in the world now, and it is the standard trousers, (pants for you folks over in Obamistan) T-shirts for guys and similar things for women. The clothing thing is just one example.

        Difference and variety is something to be celebrated and creates excitement and mystery. Uniformity and predictability don't.

        Other than that there is also the whole issue of post-oil peak, another very interesting and complex topic which I've been interested in since 2004, when even then prominent experts were hinting of a post-oil related war, which didn't happen, and plus a guy I spoke to who works in petroleum engineering said there is still a bit of oil out there to be dug.
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        • #5
          that's kind of different than Kazcynski's thesis, he argues not just against globalization

          but that industrial civilization disconnects us from nature which creates a dysfunctional relationship with nature and also in reality enslaves us to an artificial way of life.

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          • #6
            Can you upload his complete writings, Scimitar?
            The only constant is change.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
              Can you upload his complete writings, Scimitar?

              no but I'm sure you can find a PDF of it, I have a purchased copy

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              • #8
                http://www.provokateur.com/webres/Un...0Kaczynski.pdf

                http://zinelibrary.info/files/The.Ro....Kaczynski.pdf

                BEFORE....




                AFTER....

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                • #9
                  which has nothing to do with anything but ok

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                  • #10
                    ...apart from being pictures of the writer at two stages of his life, the second one illustrating how his ideas/thoughts/believes led him to carry out certain actions.
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                    • #11
                      the beginning of what he wrote is odd. he does a negative analysis of lefties whereas the industrial society wasn't produced by lefties. my experience of lefties are more or less those who see the faults in a civilisation too far removed from contact with nature. he sounds pretty unstable to me.

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                      • #12
                        I understand ppl being defensive about a writer they may revere, however I haven't read his works but I do think that just reading a brief description of what he believed in, he obviously possesses a lot of knowledge and has something worthwhile to be examined.

                        There are definitely questions on how far we can continue with this path of continuous industrialization, is it unlimited? (which I doubt)
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                        • #13
                          not being defensive, but if that is all one can contribute it only demonstrates the intellectual lacking of the individual, it seems like a derailing for people who feel left out of the conversation.

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                          • #14
                            yes dear, it's my leftie inferiority complex.

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