Originally posted by Enzargul
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‘Tank, DI Khan to be part of Seraiki province’
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Ever since 1947, it has been the Punjabi and Mohajir establishment's policy to suppress nationalist sentiments in Pashtun and Baloch areas specifically and, to a lesser extent, in Sindh. It tried replacing the people's historical national identities with a manufactured framework of pseudo pan-Islamist cum-modernist ideals. Needless to say, this policy backfired with the creation of Bangladesh in 1971. Ethnic identities always trump religious associations. Just look at Europe. It's just how things are naturally."If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".
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1. There is serious talk about a South Punjab province being created, all parties including the ANP support it. Even the PML-N agree with it in principle.Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View PostThis Seraikistan business is one of the biggest Pakistan People's Party's scams ever. Seraikis live as minorities in D.I. Khan and some districts in Balochistan as well as northern Sindh. Secondly, creating this Seraiki province will cut the mother-province into half and leave it with as area smaller than the size of Sindh. Seraikistan will need 2/3rds of the votes in both the houses of parliament in Pakistan if it wants to come into being and I doubt Balochistan, Sindh and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa will ever support it. The Punjabi establishment will never allow this either.
However, the MQM and the PPP are already cashing-in on this promise of Seraikistan. They want more votes than Nawaz Sharif in southern Punjab and this is the only way they can out-maneuver him in his home province.
Moreover, creating a Seraiki province will give momentum to demands from the Hindowans and the Mohajirs for their own province. Northern Balochistan has historically wanted to merge with northern Pushtunkhwa. And no one in Pakistan can provide the dynamic leadership that is required to undergo such drastic and bold steps. Lastly, weak states always play it safe. The renaming of NWFP to Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa unleashed otherwise-suppressed nationalistic sentiments as far away as Bahawalpur. This Seraikistan move will make matters worse for Punjab.
So Tank and D.I. Khan are going nowhere.
2. The ANP and PMAP have both called for northern Balochistan to become south Pakhtunkhwa.
3. Karachi will not became a separate province as this as casus belli for war from Sindh including the PPP, STPP and others.
30+ million Sindhis will not accept the amputation of Karachi from Sindh.
There has already been huge violence and loss of life over this issue, and the MQM are fundamentally becoming weaker and weaker with the clock ticking against them.
4. The federation needs reform and re-dermacation of provincial borders and seems to be going that direction.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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haha...luffy....za ka pa gandapuri zabe k dar sara shuri sawam ,bya ba ta poye na se...za kho ta sara khpala zaba na yaaa yam ..bya ba ta pa poye na se.....da gandapur ao da marwato pa zabe k lazh farq dai.........dagh da para za ta sara sardari zabe k khbare na kom....zamarya os ta ra sara zhagha zha ...za ba os kpla zaba dar sara kom...thk da k ,marwata
ta ba os wayam wayam(khta hu) na k ....bal k yaa yam(khta hu) ba yaa (waaye) ye..
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You are showing happiness at the comment of toramana like an idiot. You are not aware that this same racist toramana has commented about pashtuns of southren districts that they are not genuine pashtuns and are mixed with punjabis. So dont call him zmaraya yet. hasey domra zarwar nada che mata makha makh jat wuwai, swat wal dam da.Originally posted by farid ullah khan gandapur View Posthahaha..@toranama...zamarya da cha yaa ye...luffy kho pa noro baande ilzamuna lagay cha ta ta pashtu na dar ji....os kho ma ta da se shkari che luffy sara cha kum da pashtun wali certificate dai agha jaali(bogus) dai.
And gandapur sahab why you are so angry and throwing childish comments against me?. I just said gandapurs are bilingual, which is a fact.
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below is an article from same wikipedia from which you took quotations.
" Hafiz Khel is a sub-tribe of Gandapur tribe. About 80-85% are now migrated
to Dera Ismail Khan, Tank and Zhob Districts of North West Frontier Province (NWFP) and Baluchistan. History They are the descendants of Hafiz
Muhammad Bakhtiar Khan. Language They are bilingual. Members living in Zhob and Tank speak Pashto. However, those Living in Dera Ismail
Khan and Kulachi have not retained
their ancestral language and mostly
speak the Derawali form of Saraiki
dialect which is influenced by Pashto
and Seraiki. Like other Pashtun tribes,they generally observe a pre-
Islamic honor code formally known as Pashtunwali
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hahaha..yara luffy ghusa ma ko...i thnk maa ghalti o kara cha dagh form ta raaghlam....dagha je kho pa yo bal baande ilzamuna lagai cha ta pashtun na ye sirf za pashtun yam..what is ths yar???afsos khabara da.awal kho ta ilzam o lga wale pa ma baande....os che ta ta pta olage da cha za pashtun yam,che ta ta ye jatt o wela no ta os da racism khbare ke???awal da dagha soch na kawale?????
pashtun is that person which has all d properties of pashtun ,not only language.understood
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luffy dagha childish cmnt na di....ta che pa bal kas ilzam lage no poye sha che agha ha pashtun dai....agha hm khamosha na si kashe naste...jwb kho ba ta ta kha makha dar kai.
os kho Gandapur mane kana....gr8 pashtun.
im not bilingual,so i can't bear such words.
o khabara mind kawa ma...ta bal ta cha ma yaya(waya)...bal ba ta cha na yaa yi(waayi).ok dear
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How old are you farid and why you are taking this discussion so offending. I have not blamed any one as non-pashtun, i suspected you as enzargul because here he is notorious for creating multiple accounts even as wazir, bannuchi and marwat. And i am not calling gandapurs as non-pashtuns, they are bilinguals which is a fact known to every one so dont feel offended.
Ever since you have joined forum i have not thrown insults at you but you on the other have laughed at toramana's comment and have called me a bogus pashtun and you have spoken ill against marwats. I request you to contro your anger and be truthful and rational.
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ab aya oont pahaar k neeche.....yara cha khafa nase,ta kho serious sle.i did nt talk about whole marwat..talk about some1...n its true...are hnsa to mai wese tha...tm pe tanz k lie ni hnsa tha.....gandapur r not bilingual...there r sm saraiki belonging 2 ilake gandapuri ...they little knw pashto...as they belong to gandapuri region so they calll themselvs as gandapur...but its nt a fact.so my dear dnt say they r bilingual....marwat kho da muzh gawandaan di...sorry yara ka khfa sle ye pa ma khabaro baande.os cha pa dagh cmnt baande khfa na se marwata.
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