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    EXCLUSIVE - Haqqanis to follow Taliban on Afghan peace



    EXCLUSIVE - Haqqanis to follow Taliban on Afghan peace | Reuters







    By Michael Georgy
    ISLAMABAD | Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:46pm IST

    (Reuters) - The Haqqani network, one of the most feared insurgent groups in Afghanistan, would take part in peace talks with the Kabul government and the United States only if the Taliban did, its leader Sirajuddin Haqqani told Reuters on Saturday.
    The group has become so confident after battlefield gains, that it no longer has sanctuaries in Pakistan, and instead felt secure inside Afghanistan, said Sirajuddin in a rare interview, by telephone from an undisclosed location.
    The militant leader is described by U.S. forces in Afghanistan as one of their most lethal enemies. The United States has posted a bounty of up to $5 million for him.
    The Haqqanis rejected several peace gestures from the United States and President Hamid Karzai's government in the past because they were an attempt to "create divisions" between militant groups, he said.
    Any further efforts to do so would fail, added Sirajuddin.
    "They offered us very very important positions but we rejected and told them they would not succeed in their nefarious designs. They wanted to divide us," said Sirajuddin.
    "We would support whatever solution our Shura members suggest for the future of Afghanistan," he said, referring to the Afghan Taliban leadership.
    Washington has repeatedly pressed Pakistan to go after the Haqqani network it believes is based in the unruly North Waziristan tribal region near the Afghan border.
    "Gone are the days when we were hiding in the mountains along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. Now we consider ourselves more secure in Afghanistan besides the Afghan people. Senior military and police officials are with us,"said Sirajuddin, believed to be in his late 30s.
    "There are sincere people in the Afghan government who are loyal to the Taliban as they know our goal is the liberation of our homeland from the clutches of occupying forces."
    HIGH ON THE U.S. HIT LIST
    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta warned Pakistan on Wednesday the United States would "do everything we can" to defend U.S. forces from Pakistan-based militants staging attacks in Afghanistan.
    U.S. officials suspect militants from the Haqqani network were behind Tuesday's rocket attack on the U.S. embassy compound in Kabul, as well as a recent truck bomb that wounded 77 members of the American forces.
    The Haqqani network is perhaps the most divisive issue between allies Pakistan and the United States, whose ties have been heavily strained by the unilateral American raid that killed Osama bin Laden in a Pakistani town in May.
    Pakistan's Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, has long been suspected of maintaining ties with the Haqqani network, cultivated during the 1980s when Sirajuddin's father, Jalaluddin Haqqani, was a notorious battlefield commander against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
    Pakistan denies allegations it has ties to the Haqqanis.
    If it is confirmed that the Haqqanis have left North Waziristan, American pressure on Pakistan to eliminate the group may ease.
    ROLE IN KABUL SIEGE?
    Haqqani refrains from attacking the Pakistani state, and analysts say Pakistan sees the Haqqanis as a counterweight to the growing influence of rival India in Afghanistan.
    U.S. officials have played down the significance of Tuesday's attack on Kabul's diplomatic enclave, which showered rockets on Western embassies in a show of insurgent strength.
    It was the longest and most audacious militant attack on the Afghan capital in the decade since the Taliban was ousted from power, and a stark reminder of insurgents' reach as Western forces start to return home.
    Five police and 11 civilians, including children, were killed in the multi-pronged attacks, which included three suicide bombings.
    Asked if the Haqqani network was behind the assault, Sirajuddin said:
    "For some reasons, I would not like to claim that fighters of our group had carried out the recent attack on U.S. embassy and NATO headquarters. Our central leadership, particularly senior members of the Shura, suggested I should keep quiet in future if the US and its allies suffer in future."
    The Haqqani network is believed to have extensive ties with some of the world's most dangerous militant groups, including al Qaeda, in North Waziristan and elsewhere.
    Pacifying the Haqqanis could boost the chances of a peaceful settlement in Afghanistan, where violence is at its most intense since the overthrow of the Taliban government in late 2001.
    While Jalaluddin is still revered by militants, ill health forced him to pass on leadership of the group to Sirajuddin, who is seen as far more ruthless.
    Asked whether there are 10,000 Haqqani fighters as some media reports have suggested, Sirajuddin laughed and said: "That figure is actually less than the actual number."
    The Haqqanis are thought to have introduced suicide bombing to Afghanistan, and are believed to have been behind high-profile attacks there, including a raid on Kabul's top hotel, an assassination attempt on the president, and a suicide attack on the Indian embassy.
    In one example of the Haqqani group's effectiveness, they are believed to have helped an al Qaeda suicide bomber who killed seven CIA agents at a U.S. base in eastern Afghanistan last year, the deadliest strike on the agency in decades.
    Pilotless U.S. drone aircraft have tried to eliminate senior figures in the group in North Waziristan. Sirajuddin's younger brother was killed by a drone missile strike.
    ANTI-SOVIET ALLIES
    Washington has not always regarded the Haqqanis as enemies.
    Former U.S. Congressman Charlie Wilson, who raised money for the Afghan anti-Soviet resistance, once called Jalaluddin "goodness personified". The warrior was held in such high esteem he visited the White House when Ronald Reagan was president.
    Nowadays, the United states spends a great deal of time trying to persuade the Pakistanis it is in their interest to eliminate the Haqqanis, for the sake of regional stability.
    "We've seen in the past what happens when terrorists are given a de facto safe haven, as the Haqqanis have in parts of Pakistan - it doesn't turn out well for either Pakistan or the United States," said a U.S. official in Washington.
    "The open question is whether Pakistan has the will -- or the ability -- to crack down on the Haqqani network. The U.S. has done its part to degrade the group's capabilities but can't do it entirely on its own."
    Pakistan, which faces its own Taliban insurgency, cannot afford to antagonise the Haqqanis' seasoned fighters, and any crackdown could also invite the wrath of the group's allies.
    (Additional reporting by Mark Hosenball and Missy Ryan in Washington; Editing by Daniel Magnowski)


    Feared Haqqani network announce support for Taliban peace talks

    The leader of the Haqqani network, the most feared faction fighting Nato troops in Afghanistan, has pledged his group would support the Taliban leadership in any future peace talks.


    Feared Haqqani network announce support for Taliban peace talks - Telegraph








    By Dean Nelson, South Asia Editor

    1:50PM BST 17 Sep 2011


    The statement was made by Sirajuddin Haqqani, the son of the legendary Mujahideen leader Jalaluddin Haqqani and now commander of the most ruthless insurgency militia. The United States has put a $5 million reward on his head.

    His faction has been blamed for some of the most damaging assaults on Nato forces in Afghanistan, and his statement in an interview with Reuters has caused a wave of excitement among Afghanistan analysts and diplomats.

    The Haqqanis had been thought to be opposed to recent talks between the representative of Taliban leader Mullah Omar, Tayeb Agha, and American state department officials in Qatar and Germany earlier this year.

    Sirajuddin Haqqani said his group had rejected direct approaches for peace talks and offers of government positions if he abandoned his group's insurgency. They had been aimed at dividing the Haqqanis from the Taliban's Quetta Shura leadership, he said.

    Diplomats feared there was a divide between the Kandahar-centred Taliban leadership behind Mullah Omar, and the Haqqanis, who have been seen as an increasingly independent militant faction with close links to both the Pakistan government and al-Qaeda commanders.




    But in the interview, Haqqani states his unequivocal support for the Taliban's ruling 'Quetta Shura' and implies he supported the aborted exploratory talks between the United States and the Taliban Qatar and Germany earlier this year.
    "They offered us very, very important positions but we rejected and told them they would not succeed in their nefarious designs. They wanted to divide us," he said by telephone from an undisclosed location.
    "We would support whatever solution our shura members suggest for the future of Afghanistan," he added.
    He denied American claims that the Haqqani Network uses Pakistan's North Waziristan tribal area as a safe haven and launch pad for attacks on Nato forces in Afghanistan. His group had become so strong in Eastern Afghanistan that it had support from local government officials and police figures and had managed to derive out rival militants loyal to fellow insurgent Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.
    "Gone are the days when we were hiding in the mountains along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. Now we consider ourselves more secure in Afghanistan besides the Afghan people. Senior military and police officials are with us," he said.
    "There are sincere people in the Afghan government who are loyal to the Taliban as they know our goal is the liberation of our homeland from the clutches of occupying forces," he added.
    Intelligence analysts regard this comment as a propaganda ploy to ease pressure on Islamabad, which is suspected of regarded the group as a strategic ally against Indian influence in Afghanistan.
    The Pakistan government is currently under intense pressure to launch a major offensive against the Haqqanis in north Waziristan, but Islamabad has firmly resisted the demand, claiming any offensive would drive tribal leaders into joining their 'jihad'.
    Senior analysts have been trying to establish the Haqqanis' attitude to the recent exploratory peace talks for some months amid suspicions of a deep split within the urgency.
    Sirajuddin's comments however have given them some hope that the Quetta Shura's key figures are united, disciplined, and capable of delivering a credible peace if terms can be agreed.






    HAQQANI NETWORK, PEACE ONLY IF TALIBANS SAY SO





    08:51 17 SET 2011

    (AGI) Islamabad - The Haqqani Network, among Afghanistan's most dangerous and dreaded rebel groups, will take part in peace talks. But they are willing to take part in peace negotiations between Kabul and the United States only if the Talibans do so too. The statement was made by the group's leader, Sirajuddin Haqqani. He reminded that the group did reject several past peace gestures made by the US and the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, because they were attempts "to foment divisions" among the militants.. . .
    Last edited by Guest; 09-17-2011, 01:27 PM.

  • #2
    There is no such like haqqani network ...

    Sirajjudin cleared this 1000 times ...but these sons of porks may you end as fudder for taliban ammunition,they try to devide them like the old ideas of DEVIDE AND RULE.
    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #3
      of course there is a haqqani network

      Asked whether there are 10,000 Haqqani fighters as some media reports have suggested, Sirajuddin laughed and said: "That figure is actually less than the actual number."



      btw, wtf kind of answer is this? lol

      "For some reasons, I would not like to claim that fighters of our group had carried out the recent attack on U.S. embassy and NATO headquarters. Our central leadership, particularly senior members of the Shura, suggested I should keep quiet in future if the US and its allies suffer in future."
      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

      Sayyid Qutb

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      • #4
        um, they have never called themselves "The Haqqani Network" LOL. This is just some retarded narrative spun by karzai/spanta and Saleh inspired retards.


        Never, they are all the same from Kandahar all the way through Paktia and Kunar to Orakzai.

        An answer is an answer. Its called an interview fyi
        Last edited by Guest; 09-17-2011, 08:19 PM.

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        • #5
          he was asked if he had so many haqqani fighters, to which he answered there were less. he could of just said there were no haqqani fighters but only taliban fighters.

          also, wtf is up with his response to the question about the kabul attack? not denying it but saying the shura wanted him to keep quiet about it.
          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

          Sayyid Qutb

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          • #6
            I don't understand what the issue is. Its called an interview.

            There is no such thing called the Haqqani network. This retarded phrase was coined by American and Kabul expat officials.

            lol, whats next? Ahmadzai network?? LMAO

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            • #7
              yes its an interview, and the language of the questions and the answers are telling.

              when asked about the strength of the haqqani fighters, he didn't deny there was an independent group of haqqani fighters, but simply dismissed the number of fighters that were claimed.

              the haqqanis are based in the east and have their own history, while mullah omar and others are southern oriented and have their own history. they are under the same name but operate on different fronts.

              of course there is no official "haqqani network" but there is a group overseen by the haqqanis who act more independently than the average taliban group in the south commanded by a no name commander.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #8
                yeah yeah, same old BS touted by American and Kabul expat officials.

                There are many people in Helmand who on that logic have their own network- they are just simply Afghans wanting the US war and occupation to end.

                Then there is Kunar where all the people are local tribes who refuse occupation. What should we call them? "Name Network" LMAO


                Is there an Ahmad Network? What about a Sardar Muhammad Network? LOL
                Last edited by Guest; 09-17-2011, 08:56 PM.

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                • #9
                  yes and in the 80s there were hundreds of thousands of afghans who fought against the russians, but we know there were 7 distinct groups. hezbs, wahdats, and jamiats. there were even 2 hezb i islamis.

                  the haqqanis have deeper roots with tribes and security intel than the mainstream taliban under mullah omar since they have had a name since the 80s.

                  no there is no ahmad network since there is no "....." ahmad that has been a major commander since the 80s and have made a big name for themselves.

                  haqqani even said the kabul officials tried to lure his group with official positions. u think the kabul people did that thinking that haqqanis were part of the mainstream taliban? the kabul govt know their enemies and their enemies know the kabul govt. jalaluddin haqqani has been a talib since the 90s but he was never a part of the traditional shura, and made a name for himself long before people knew who mullah omar was.
                  Last edited by randolph85; 09-17-2011, 09:05 PM.
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #10
                    read the title, and then read the interview

                    good luck

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                    • #11
                      Haqqani network, peace only if talibans say so
                      haqqani network mentioned. title reads as if they are 2 separate entities.


                      interview indicates they are under the same name but under different fronts, as indicated by the quote that i have mentioned.
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                        haqqani network mentioned. title reads as if they are 2 separate entities.
                        Peace only if Taliban says so.

                        Did you manage to read that part. It indicates that this group of Afghans take orders from what people call the Taliban.


                        interview indicates they are under the same name but under different fronts, as indicated by the quote that i have mentioned.
                        The interview in fact indicates that there is one Taliban, and thats it

                        There is no Haqqani network, no Ahmad network, no Mirwais network, no Einstein network, or Barney network??? just a bunch of people opposed to the US war.

                        The objectives are all the same. AND LOL LOL LOL LOL at you trying to use this as your evidence L:AMAOAAAAAAAAAAAAA hahahahhahah, thats sad. Like the Kabul expat officials saying that those Kabul diplomat area attackers were carrying Soda from Pakistan LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL

                        YhAHHAHHHHHHHHHHH
                        Last edited by Guest; 09-17-2011, 10:11 PM.

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                        • #13
                          lol @ me using haqqanis own words as evidence?

                          why are u laughing when u tell me to read the title the thread as if it proves ur point when the words "haqqani network" are in it?
                          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                          Sayyid Qutb

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                            lol @ me using haqqanis own words as evidence?

                            why are u laughing when u tell me to read the title the thread as if it proves ur point when the words "haqqani network" are in it?

                            OK, news flash, those were not his words/ The titles was not his words. It was the title made by some foreign journalist?? You know that right?

                            He doesn't write the title.

                            The second part is the jist of the whole article.

                            It does prove my point, the second part especially.

                            I actually knew you would do what you did, and I thought of editing it, but I had some faith you would use common sense, but alas, you did what I predicted.

                            SEEE, IT SAYS HAQQANI NETWORK, SEE? No Dahhhh.thats mu evidence see?? seeeeeeeeeeeee? The author wrote Haqqani Network???

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                            • #15
                              then why are u telling me to look at the title of ur post as if u are trying to prove a point?
                              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                              Sayyid Qutb

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