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  • #31
    Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
    so swatis and waziris are liers?
    Pakistan is playing a dirty game which sadagan like you would never undersatnd.
    ttp was never and never will be against pakistani interests.
    Wait and see.
    pashtunkhwa is not country you know that for sure.
    Once pashtunkhwa become a country then you can blame them.
    as long as you use torkham,chaman and karachi for trade forget about free afghhanistan.
    They will blackmail your country.
    Change is coming but to both countries.
    pakistan is failing,the economy,the power crisis and on going violence .
    On the other side afghanistan is in similar situation so now you tell me what change is coming to our boundries?
    which country will finally take over the region.?
    Me and you can cry for day and night but that will not make any different.
    The smaller economies and countries are falling to the big empires.
    So explain this game to us, because this game that people are trying to say does not make sense at all. Your saying that ttp is pro ISI but at the same time ttp attacks ISI assets. ttp has made Pakistan unstable. ttp are attacking pakistans border posts from the afghan side. They are doing this all at ISI directions? That does not make sense. The Afghan Taliban tell ttp leaders to stop attacking pakistan. doesnt make sense.

    India supports the ttp, the ttp attacks indian interests in Afghanistan. Does that make sense?

    USA supports the ttp, ttp attacks US interests in Afghanistan. still no sense.

    The USA supports the ISI, the ISI supports the Taliban. The Taliban shoots and kills US soldiers. How is this war supposed to end, never ending cycle? does that make sense?

    Al Qaeda is created by USA, Al Queda attacks US interests where they could. does that make sense.

    So in essence, the nations are supporting groups to attack their interests. So whats up with all this.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by khushal View Post
      So explain this game to us, because this game that people are trying to say does not make sense at all. Your saying that ttp is pro ISI but at the same time ttp attacks ISI assets. ttp has made Pakistan unstable. ttp are attacking pakistans border posts from the afghan side. They are doing this all at ISI directions? That does not make sense. The Afghan Taliban tell ttp leaders to stop attacking pakistan. doesnt make sense.

      India supports the ttp, the ttp attacks indian interests in Afghanistan. Does that make sense?

      USA supports the ttp, ttp attacks US interests in Afghanistan. still no sense.

      The USA supports the ISI, the ISI supports the Taliban. The Taliban shoots and kills US soldiers. How is this war supposed to end, never ending cycle? does that make sense?

      Al Qaeda is created by USA, Al Queda attacks US interests where they could. does that make sense.

      So in essence, the nations are supporting groups to attack their interests. So whats up with all this.
      zama sada wrora na pohagam chi sanga de poha kram?

      During swat war the paki army was searching all civillains for weapons.
      There was operation to disarm the local in buner before the arival of talibs there.
      The napak army was training and the zobies/talibs were even leaded by pak army majors etc.
      They were undecover soldiers of isi.
      People have seen them with their own eyes when talibs and army was playing this dirty game on pashtun soil.
      TTP is just a name to scare US and the west not to enter pakistan and get aid from the west to fight against ttp.
      In swat they slaughter people to scare them to keep their mouth shut.They brought uzbiks terrorests from waziristan for that.
      The US also asked pakistan for base in swat so that was another reason for this drama.
      The ,,isi,,killing its own army sometime to make fool of the world.


      ok,now brother i have explain this many time.
      Pls ,dont follow punjabi media by saying other countries supporting ttp.
      i put a very simple question to you and that should clear you mind.

      how many schools ,,ttp,,bombed in punjab,sind?

      they are bombing our schools on both sides.

      Now there are other attacks against civillains in pashtunkhwa and blackwater is deeply involved in the killing of innocents people.
      The mosques are mainly bombed by balckwater.
      So it is a conflict situation and now there are more then one criminals involved.
      The blackwater is fully authorised by paki govt.
      US has strategic interests in the region and banana republic like pakistan is the best to be used.



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      • #33
        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        During swat war the paki army was searching all civillains for weapons.
        why were they searching civilians for weapons?
        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        There was operation to disarm the local in buner before the arival of talibs there.
        so they disarmed the locals so they would be powerless to fight the talibs right?
        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        The napak army was training and the zobies/talibs were even leaded by pak army majors etc.
        They were undecover soldiers of isi.
        People have seen them with their own eyes when talibs and army was playing this dirty game on pashtun soil.
        TTP is just a name to scare US and the west not to enter pakistan and get aid from the west to fight against ttp.
        This would be a contradiction because the TTP would be the perfect reason for the US to enter/invade Pakistan. Isn't the US drone attacks in Waziristan because of the TTP. You think the TTP can scare the US. Pakistan is doing everything it can to convince the US that all trouble is coming from Afghanistan, they fear the breakup of thier nation. Pakistan does not need the TTP as an excuse to get aid to fight terrorism. Pakistan would be getting US Aid regardless if TTP existed or not. The US fears of an unstable Pakistan, what would it do to the region and what would it do the world economy, how dangerous would the ripple effects be.
        Taliban militants took control Wednesday of a district 60 miles away from the Pakistani capital of Islamabad.

        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        In swat they slaughter people to scare them to keep their mouth shut.They brought uzbiks terrorests from waziristan for that.
        So they needed assistance from the Uzbeks to slaughter people. they were not capable of doing it themselves and slaughtering usually has the opposite effect of keeping peoples mouth shut. look what happened in libya and whats happening in syria. Even syria slaughter their own citizens and then blames it on their opponents and so did the libyans, this tactic is as old as man itself.
        Your theory is that the PAk army dressed up as Taliban and killed innocent pashtuns. If that were true than they are defaming the Taliban, so they are defaming their own enemies so the Pak army and Taliban are not friends.
        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        The US also asked pakistan for base in swat so that was another reason for this drama.
        what do you mean the US asked pakistan for base, they had presence there before 911.
        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        The ,,isi,,killing its own army sometime to make fool of the world.
        If the ISI is killing its own soldiers, then it is actually making fools of themselves, is it not.
        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        ok,now brother i have explain this many time.
        Pls ,dont follow punjabi media by saying other countries supporting ttp.
        i put a very simple question to you and that should clear you mind.
        what question, it was me that asked you the question. I asked because I didnt know which conspiracy theory you followed. I dont follow panjabi media, panjabi media says that the TTP is supported by the Indians, but the TTP attacks indian interests in Afghanistan, that makes as much sense as your theory. I have to follow what makes sense, not what you said, he said, she said.
        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        how many schools ,,ttp,,bombed in punjab,sind?
        they are bombing our schools on both sides.
        Panjab and sind dont have autonomous areas, they are not tribal, they are a feudal society. the people are told what to do and they do it without question.
        Whenever tribal Pashtuns feel that their autonomy is threatened, they attack all government institutions including schools because any government presence feels as though they are losing control over their way of life. KP became embroiled because the Pak army was pressured by the US to invade tribal lands that they agreed to never set foot in. The Pakistani flag never waved in the tribal lands, they were autonomous and that autonomy had been violated. No body ever heard of the TTP when Nek Mohammed was fighting the US pressured Pak army when the pak army invaded Waziristan, do you remember the shakai peace agreement between the wazir tribe and the Pak army. do you know why they broke down.
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        Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
        Now there are other attacks against civillains in pashtunkhwa and blackwater is deeply involved in the killing of innocents people.
        The mosques are mainly bombed by balckwater.
        So it is a conflict situation and now there are more then one criminals involved.
        The blackwater is fully authorised by paki govt.
        US has strategic interests in the region and banana republic like pakistan is the best to be used.
        I dont know what this mean here. The US supports the ISI, the ISI supports the taliban to attack the US. they are all involved in attacking each other but they are diecting each other to attack each other. You dont make sense.
        Blackwater is attacking mosques to defame the taliban, the taliban are attacking the US troops, the ISI and pak army to defame the US, ISI and pak army. The pak army are supporting the TTP to defame itself. The US is supporting the ISI so it can support the TTP to defame itself. you don't make sense. If this was a mathematical formula, you would confuse einstein.
        Last edited by khushal; 09-01-2011, 09:03 PM.

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