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  • #31
    Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
    No.. But I guess you forgot that an Afghan King sold it to the British, so now if the Afghan govt want it's land back they should knock at any international court. They won't be short of lawyers like you.

    Secondly you don't recognize the fact that today the whole Pakhtunkhwa and FATA is governed and controlled by the Pakistani Govt.

    Manana..

    The Afghan agreed with the British, who you claim to have bought you and your kind, that the areas that you come from, are "free areas" where Afghanistan and British India have no say whatsoever.

    But if you wanna be sold like cattle and rewrite history in a way that makes you, your kind and your ancestors look like slaves, go ahead.

    I realize the fact, that Shadibaz Frontier Corps and paid ISI stooges kill, harm and exploit their own kind, but I wouldn´t consider that as "controling".
    The only constant is change.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
      ^ Technically Waziristan isn't autonomous as those elected from Waziristan are sitting in the Pakistani Cabinets/Parliament.
      when the British left, Waziristan was still an "autonomous region". it was the British who agreed to the terms that their troops could not move more than 15 yards off of any road in Waziristan* without local tribal permission, an agreement the Pakistan government encoded into it's own founding. Waziristan* is still an "autonomou*s region," a part of Pakistan in name only.

      The 1956 novel "Caravan" by Jame Michener's explored what would happen to the people in the Waziristans as Pakistan, Afghanista*n and the Soviet Union closed their borders to the nomadic caravans that had been historically the economic foundation of the tribes. The Novel predicted the ancient world would make it's last stand against the modern world in the mountains of Waziristan. The outcome of this battle would be either the last Pashtun dieing in those mountains or the modern Army leaves exhausted.

      Caravans (1978)- Staring Anthony Quinn - YouTube

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
        Whether it's election or selection, it's conducted by the Pakistani Govt.

        Regards.
        What are you talking about. When was the first and last time the Pakistani flag flew over Waziristan and was the pakistani flag freely raised or by heavily armed soldiers who were under constant fire.

        The wazir have always come to the aid of Afghanistan whenever needed. When did they come to the aid of pakistan. They are now fighting the Pak army for the right to aid Afghanistan.

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        • #34
          ^ When did they come to the aid of Pakistan LOL ! That's enough !!
          yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            What are you talking about. When was the first and last time the Pakistani flag flew over Waziristan and was the pakistani flag freely raised or by heavily armed soldiers who were under constant fire.

            The wazir have always come to the aid of Afghanistan whenever needed. When did they come to the aid of pakistan. They are now fighting the Pak army for the right to aid Afghanistan.
            Most of the tribal fighters that fought in 1948 war of kashmir were wazirs and mehsuds.

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            • #36
              This is why it will be very hard for our pukhtana to come together once again because we have too many punjabi slaves that have been bought out. read what i posted on this debate earlier and wake up!.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by AfghanResistance View Post
                This is why it will be very hard for our pukhtana to come together once again because we have too many punjabi slaves that have been bought out. read what i posted on this debate earlier and wake up!.
                Unity is difficult because of arrogant afghans like you who insults lar pashtuns by calling them slaves of punjab.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Aab-e-Hayat View Post
                  Most of the tribal fighters that fought in 1948 war of kashmir were wazirs and mehsuds.

                  Yes.

                  They fought for booty not for Pakistan.

                  The only constant is change.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Aab-e-Hayat View Post
                    Unity is difficult because of arrogant afghans like you who insults lar pashtuns by calling them slaves of punjab.

                    Nope.

                    Shadibaz/Shehbaz insulted you and your kind very harshly by constantly claiming that you lar Pashtuns were "sold by the Afghan king".

                    Do you people consider yourself as cattle than can be bought and sold?

                    Or were your territories considered as "free areas" by Afghanistan and British India?


                    You need to figure out what you are first.
                    Forget about bar Pashtuns.
                    Last edited by MostafaM; 09-06-2011, 04:27 PM.
                    The only constant is change.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                      Yes.

                      They fought for booty not for Pakistan.

                      They fought to help kashmiri muslims.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                        Nope.

                        Shadibaz/Shehbaz insulted you and your kind very harshly by constantly claiming that you lar Pashtuns were "sold by the Afghan king".

                        Do you people consider yourself as cattle than can be bought and sold?

                        Or were your territories considered as "free areas" by Afghanistan and British India?


                        You need to figure out what you are first.
                        Forget about bar Pashtuns.
                        Luffy the thief has an identity crisis and conflict between his (supposedly) Pashtun (if he actually is one and not just a Hindko who can speak Pashto) identity and his Pakistani identity and is torn between the two.

                        Other than that he is a bored medical student seeking to pass the time by trolling people on an internet forum.

                        Take no notice of this Hindko clown...(yes he actually had a clown on his avatar a while back), and everyone knows he just comes on this forum to "have fun" by provoking people, insults, lies etc.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                          Yes.

                          They fought for booty not for Pakistan.

                          Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                          Nope.

                          Shadibaz/Shehbaz insulted you and your kind very harshly by constantly claiming that you lar Pashtuns were "sold by the Afghan king".

                          Do you people consider yourself as cattle than can be bought and sold?

                          Or were your territories considered as "free areas" by Afghanistan and British India?


                          You need to figure out what you are first.
                          Forget about bar Pashtuns.
                          Shehbaz is right. That tajikized afghan king sold pakhtunkhwa to british for 12 lakh rupees per year and left us on our own against british. Lar pashtuns resisted against british on their own and in a way protected afghanistan from british. British admired lar pashtuns in their books , we fought occupation and we are nar people because we are free of tajik blood.

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                          • #43
                            Bengali brother i thought i was in your ignore list?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                              Luffy the thief has an identity crisis and conflict between his (supposedly) Pashtun (if he actually is one and not just a Hindko who can speak Pashto) identity and his Pakistani identity and is torn between the two.

                              Other than that he is a bored medical student seeking to pass the time by trolling people on an internet forum.

                              Take no notice of this Hindko clown...(yes he actually had a clown on his avatar a while back), and everyone knows he just comes on this forum to "have fun" by provoking people, insults, lies etc.

                              I am aware of his identity crisis.

                              A Farsi name, Pashtun ethnicity, Pakistani nationality.....something is deeply wrong here....
                              The only constant is change.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Aab-e-Hayat View Post
                                Shehbaz is right. That tajikized afghan king sold pakhtunkhwa to british for 12 lakh rupees per year and left us on our own against british. Lar pashtuns resisted against british on their own and in a way protected afghanistan from british. British admired lar pashtuns in their books , we fought occupation and we are nar people because we are free of tajik blood.

                                Ah, ok.

                                Now I know what you are.

                                The descendent of slaves who were sold into British ownership.

                                Thanks for clarifying that.

                                As far as I know, you "lar Pashtuns" were subjugated by British military presence untill 1945 and the three major wars against Pashtuns/Afghans were all fought on modern day Afghanistan´s soil.....

                                Something is wrong about your perception of history, Paani Bhai!

                                You can´t be that narr, because you chose the language of those Tajikis to call yourself.......Aab-e Hayat sounds very persianized to me, Heera Mendi Saib.

                                The only constant is change.

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